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Huge Blow to McClintock. California GOP to Formally Endorse Arnold Schwarzenegger 2pm PST Today
Posted on 09/29/2003 11:10:57 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
FOX NEWS:
The California GOP will announce today that it will endorse Arnold Schwarzenegger for their candidate for the governor of California.
The official announcement will come at 2pm Pacific time today.
This announcement comes as a big blow to Tom McClintock.
TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: egomaniacfoiled; endorsement; exotropicpsycho; gopcorruption; mcclintock; mcwampum; schwarzenegger
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To: BlackElk
Yellow streaks and armadillos... this bears repeating often!
461
posted on
09/30/2003 10:59:04 AM PDT
by
GOP_1900AD
(Un-PC even to "Conservatives!" - Right makes right)
To: fqued
The Scriptural story was Jesus using His sense of humor to turn aside the usual gang of pretentious wise guys, trying to reschedule His plans.
Granted that we cannot live here and avoid all taxes, we ought to do what we can.
What we cannot do is vote for pro-aborts, not even as the evil of two lessers or was that the lesser of two evils because to do so makes the voter a pro-abort too and morally complicit in every subsequent abortion. That is what the Vatican says to this Catholic. If you disagree, tell Pope JP II or Cardinal Ratzinger. I, for one, can do without that burden even if it means a few more high tax years for Gollyvornia (especially since Arnold won't lower the taxes any more than will Cruz or Doofus).
An important thing to consider is whether the government is doing things that God hates.
462
posted on
09/30/2003 10:59:10 AM PDT
by
BlackElk
(Schwarzenegger is as Republican as his wife's Uncle Teddy or her Uncle Bobby)
To: blackie
Funny, I reviewed your home page. You don't seem to be ver moderate on guns. Neither is Larry Pratt. Neither am I. Call Larry and see what he says about Arnold on guns or on God issues.
Maybe an imposter has access to your computer?
463
posted on
09/30/2003 11:06:32 AM PDT
by
BlackElk
(Schwarzenegger is as Republican as his wife's Uncle Teddy or her Uncle Bobby)
To: Miss Marple; Kevin Curry
McClintock lives in apparent obedience to the Messiah without, of course, being the Messiah. Arnold, Cruz and Doofus, though claiming to be Catholic Church members (as many on FR are Catholic) do not even vaguely attempt obedience to the Messiah in their naked grab for power to do what THEY please against what He pleases. The RCC tells them that they become morally complicit in abortion by voting for themselves.
Is it not a great irony (and even a great joy) that the only Protestant candidate who is running against three "catholics", is the only candidate for whom Catholics may morally vote among the four? As a pro-life priest/warrior (taught at the National War College/retired from the Airborne as a colonel before being ordained) client of mine has said: "The walls are coming down!"
Be more offended by the killing of God's innocent children which is more serious by far than inadvertent uses of language. The crowd supporting Schwarzenneger bear a great resemblance to that earlier crowd despite the fact that none of us is comparable to our Savior.
464
posted on
09/30/2003 11:18:20 AM PDT
by
BlackElk
(Schwarzenegger is as Republican as his wife's Uncle Teddy or her Uncle Bobby)
To: Kevin Curry; BibChr; onyx; PhiKapMom; Tamsey; redlipstick; habs4ever; My2Cents; South40; ...
Congratulations! Your post has been nominated as one of today's MOST OUTRAGEOUS COMMENTS for your suggestion that McClintock is Jesus Christ. You'll be thrilled to know that your comment will be added to the Hall of Shame, comprised of other shrill comments by McClintock's increasingly desperate supporters, such as:
-- Posts (plural) that proclaim that "if you vote for Arnold, you're not a Christian."
-- An admission that some are creating an "enemies list" of sorts made up of the FR screen names who support Arnold, and of organizations that support him, intended to be a list of people and groups who have proven themselves "unreliable."
-- A suggestion that there needs to be a "true conservative" challenge to President Bush for the nomination, so McClintock should run against him in the primaries. (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990293/posts), and an outright endorsement of McClintock as presidential material (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/990718/posts?page=13#13)
-- A suspicion about Darrell Issa's claim that McClintock made a promise to him that his candidacy would not damage the chances of electing a Republican in the recall, because Issa is "a terrorist sympathizer." (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990452/posts?page=246#246)
-- The comment that "Arnold wants to use your tax dollars to slaughter unborn children," along with the corresponding comment that Arnold's supporters are "babykillers." (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990641/posts?page=81#81)
-- The suggestion that Arnold is a rapist/woman-hater who is not only like Bill Clinton, but "Arnold IS Bill Clinton!" And in an encore performance, the claim that Arnold's supporters have become Clinton as well. (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990490/posts?page=36#36)
-- The wish, because of White House involvement in encouraging candidates who can actually win, that "With any luck, Karl Rove will be in prison in fairly short order." (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990793/posts?page=12#12)
-- If Arnold is elected, one person hopes that he will lose his job and that the entire California economy will tank, simply to embarrass Governor Schwartzenegger. (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990490/posts?page=26#26)
-- The declaration that it would be better having Bustamante as governor than Arnold. (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/990839/posts?page=63#63), and for an encore performance of the same theme (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/990839/posts?page=69#69)
-- Not to be outdone, a claim that it would be better to keep Gray Davis as governor than to have Arnold! (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/990606/posts?page=26#26)
-- The suggestion that Arnold is a piece of human excrement. (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/990718/posts?page=20#20)
-- The judgment that Arnold's supporters are toxic poison, degenerate godless filth, and are condemned to hell! (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/990894/posts?page=8#8)
-- The assessment that negative, libelous, last-minute slime tactics are just peachy, provided they are aimed at Arnold. (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/991042/posts?page=32#32)
--
and to illustrate the previous point, a post proving one to be the moral equivalent of Gray Davis by posting their own negative, libelous, last-minute slimy hit-piece. (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/991802/posts?page=1)
-- The charge that Arnold is the domestic equivalent of al Qaeda, a social terrorist. (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991621/posts?page=248#248)
465
posted on
09/30/2003 11:19:27 AM PDT
by
My2Cents
(Well...there you go again.)
To: BlackElk
It offends me to hear any candidate to be placed in the position of Jesus. I don't like it when ardent Bush supporters get arried away and do so, and I didn't like that comparison.
Nor do I like yours. It is also offensive.
To: BlackElk
Just when you think that McClintock supporters can't get any more offensive, you make the most ignorant post of all.
467
posted on
09/30/2003 11:28:44 AM PDT
by
Hillary's Lovely Legs
(There is no shame in being poor, just dressing poorly)
To: My2Cents
It's a near thing... but, so far, I vote for that one.
Dan
468
posted on
09/30/2003 11:28:54 AM PDT
by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: hchutch; Carry_Okie
I understand your position there too. I don't generally do any of that unless I see it being employed by others first, and then I take a distant view of the scene and describe the worst offenders pretty much in their own terms. (Even did so a short time ago).
My tagline kinda explains why I do that. I've seen it all before, and it's as boring to me as it's apt to be annoying to you. But diminishing thought needs to be so described, if for no better reason than to help other avoid being drawn into it. And those who've been drawn into it (not initiating) pretty much describe many pro-Tom posters. I'm sorry you got swiped with the broad brush.
Overall, honor and virtue get less and less respect in this world. (The AS supporter seem to delight in deriding principles. That is a fact.) Any who display virtue (they are scarce, rare to find, especially in public life) are quickly charged with cynical reasons for doing so. Not surprisingly, this is done first by lesser creatures, and then others who are misled either by choice, by herd mentality, or by not noticing the source. It rarely is equal on both sides. It's worth noticing if for no other reason than to protect your own honor.
At any rate, have you ever heard the phrase "virtue is its own reward," usually attributed to Cicero? It generally is, like rank cynicism, at best disingenuous. If not for virtue, nothing worthwhile would get done, nobody would ever sacrifice for others or for posterity. It is precisely what the cynical and power seekers wish to see people believe, to help reduce their resistance to doing the wrong things.
Just as you find no compulsion to respond favorably to those who indulge in namecalling, I have seen past to who started it and why and see how they persist, and am strongly driven away from THEM. On what grounds?
Those who deride principle may very well not intend to do so, but are so ham-handed at pointing out why practicality should be foremost, that their message is nearly unreadable. However, further eroding their credibility, they deal in so many half-truths (like, in only one of many instances, with the Indian bought independent ads but calling it Tom's ads on radio broadcasts), it doesn't matter that the point of the ads is to split the GOP vote. The Dem Left is stupid -- Duh -- and that goes for the GOP Left too. Not liberal, mind you, Left. Autocratic, demanding, undemocratic, lying, cheating, dishonorable. They all pretty much are happier with each other than they are with the "dumb" voters. I may lose, I may be foolish in that the chances of winning appear so slim. But I gotta keep the flame alive. The long term demands it. And the short term can down right be amazing.
Do you know golf? Never up, never in. I gotta shoot for it and hope I can convince others also not to settle short of the hole. As CO pointed out in his response, so very short of the hole that it may even be further from it.
Or not to short sell conservative principles when the average voter is quite clearly ready to accept a real conservative for 3 short years just to try it out.
The siren calls to settle short of the goal, by the Establishment (which never wanted this recall in case you forgot) wishes us to wind up with us all crashing onto the rocks, just don't threaten their interests which, me must presume from the evidence, are served just as well by Doofus as by AS.
Well, you may not like my silly analogies, and I am far from convincing, but I at least you gave me some metaphorical exercise. Hope you got a laugh or two. < G >
469
posted on
09/30/2003 11:31:51 AM PDT
by
Avoiding_Sulla
(You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Seconded.
470
posted on
09/30/2003 11:33:36 AM PDT
by
annyokie
(One good thing about being wrong is the joy it brings to others.)
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Truly whacked out.
471
posted on
09/30/2003 11:37:57 AM PDT
by
CheneyChick
(www.JoinArnold.com - "Let's Bring Kah-lee-fohr-nya Back")
To: BibChr
It's a doozy. But my favorite is still the one suggesting that we can't trust Darrell Issa because he's a terrorist sympathesizer. Although the one suggesting that we Arnold supporters are "toxic poison" and "godless filth" ranks (and I do mean "RANK") right up there.
472
posted on
09/30/2003 11:40:54 AM PDT
by
My2Cents
(Well...there you go again.)
To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I look at it as a gift. Just one more addmittance to how goofy they really are.
473
posted on
09/30/2003 11:42:15 AM PDT
by
EggsAckley
(..........................all my pings are belong to ......YOU.....................)
To: My2Cents
I like "satanic", myself.
474
posted on
09/30/2003 11:43:04 AM PDT
by
CheneyChick
(www.JoinArnold.com - "Let's Bring Kah-lee-fohr-nya Back")
To: My2Cents
Certainly the rhetoric of the desperate Tom supporters is spiraling out of control. It will be this way until the election is decided. And, I'll bet they don't shut up for the next three years.
475
posted on
09/30/2003 11:44:39 AM PDT
by
BunnySlippers
(I'm voting for Arnold. McClintock doesn't deserve my vote!)
To: My2Cents
Is Tom having a press conf today or was that an unsubstantiated rumor?
476
posted on
09/30/2003 11:47:05 AM PDT
by
BunnySlippers
(I'm voting for Arnold. McClintock doesn't deserve my vote!)
To: Avoiding_Sulla
Yeah, but for me, it came down to one thing:
1. Why is Gray Davis going to be FIRED come Oct. 7?
Answer: He lied about the fiscal condition of the State of California during an election, won re-election based on that lie, then in a move of questionable legality at best, he tripled the car tax.
It is not about social issues or the environment. It's about Gray Davis's incompetence and his questionable efforts to cover it up.
477
posted on
09/30/2003 11:52:13 AM PDT
by
hchutch
("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
To: BunnySlippers
I think he has a press conference every day. Yesterday, it was to "accept" the challenge of Gray Davis to debate Arnold. I think today, Tom is going to challenge himself to a debate.
478
posted on
09/30/2003 11:58:15 AM PDT
by
My2Cents
(Well...there you go again.)
To: BunnySlippers
The consensus seems to be that the fringe will take a deep breath on October 8, and then will come back and vent their fury at that "RINO" President Bush for the next 13 months.
479
posted on
09/30/2003 11:59:38 AM PDT
by
My2Cents
(Well...there you go again.)
To: hchutch
Well, as it turns out, there is only one pol who was aiming to punish him for that from the very start while winning us some immediate relief -- but his stated intentions aroused those who colluded with Davis.
If you are unhappy with Davis, you owe it to yourself to find out who was on the other end of this cascading fiasco.
480
posted on
09/30/2003 12:00:30 PM PDT
by
Avoiding_Sulla
(You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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