Posted on 09/29/2003 6:31:43 AM PDT by johnny7
Immigrant Worker Rally Today.
The event today promotes protecting their civil rights in U.S.
(September 29, 2003) BROCKPORT In an event designed to hearken back to the freedom riders who pushed for civil rights in the South, more than 100 immigrants will travel into Brockport today as part of a rally promoting legal rights for undocumented immigrants. The caravan is one of several that are part of the Immigrant Worker Freedom Ride, a demonstration that will culminate in Washington, D.C., and New York City.
The Freedom Ride promotes securing the rights of all people who live and work in this country and making sure that they have the same workplace rights as the person theyre working next to and everybody else, said Joan Collins Lambert, a consultant to Farmworkers Legal Services of New York. With its bounty of produce farms, western New York relies heavily on the labor of undocumented workers, said Jim Schmidt, executive director of Farmworker Legal Services of New York. Yet many live in substandard conditions with no worker protections, Schmidt said. If a worker is undocumented and then tries to exercise any of his or her rights under federal law, theres the intimidation factor that he or she will be reported to the INS, Schmidt said of possible prosecution by the former Immigration and Naturalization Service, which is now the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services. The bureau is now part of the Department of Homeland Security. The caravan traveling through the Rochester region started in Chicago. Traveling along will be immigrant workers and advocates for immigrant rights, said Linda Sabo, one of the Chicago trip organizers.
The rally takes its name and, its supporters contend, its very inspiration from the Freedom Riders who journeyed to the South in the early 1960s to push for integrated bus service. Despite its attempt at a historical pedigree, the Freedom Ride has spurred opposition from some who say its nothing more than a celebration designed to circumvent immigration laws. From our viewpoint, what they really want is a free ride, free from the laws of the land, free from the obligations to play fairly and immigrate legally into the United States, said David Ray, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform, which lobbies for tougher immigration enforcement. Theyre trying to hijack the civil rights movement by calling it a Freedom Ride. The civil rights movement never had anything to do with open borders.
Rally organizers say that Americans benefit daily from the toil of undocumented immigrants. And, they say, thousands of migrant workers flock to western New York each year and help ensure the flow of produce from farm to grocery store to consumer. I dont think people have any idea how many migrant workers populate western New York in the fall months, Lambert said. We have people working under conditions that people think would not be allowed in thiscountry.
GCRAIG@DemocratandChronicle.com
Let me get this straight:
1. There are a bunch of buses all over the US going on pre-determined routes to Washington D.C.
2. The buses a filled with people.
3. The people on the bus are all illegal aliens.
Why hasn't the INS stopped the bus and arrest and deport the illegals?
What am I missing here? Are some of the people legal, some illegal? Ok. Arrest and deport the illegals, charge the legals with aiding and abetting.
Please help me understand how these buses with illegals are being transported all across the U.S. with relative impunity?
Sorry, I have a little "tard" thing going on this morning. Should have read: Why doesn't the INS stop, arrest, and deport the illegals?
The country has gone mad. Sorry, that's the best I can do to help you understand.
And afterall, why just limit it to Mexicans, there are 5 or 6 billion people around the world who I'm sure would like to live here too. I'm sure it can be arranged.
Border Patrol detains 'Freedom Riders' in El Paso, then let go.
Our government, republicans and democrats alike, love the criminal invaders. Call Tom Ridge - (202) 282-8000.
HiJinx, gubamyster - Do one of you have a more complete list of numbers to call? I tried finding it to post.
Who is paying for these busses and why? You know that someone stands to profit but you also know that the spin is, as always, that they are acting to improve the human condition (especially for - all together now - THE CHILDREN).
If, by that very definition, the government is totally against us, it is NOT out government. It is instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
The fact of the matter is, it doesn't apply to us. Not anymore anyway. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. The laws of the United States of America are no more. The rule of law is no more. It's all null and void.
Well, it's like this. See, we don't live in the United States of America anymore. We live in some banana republic where there is no rule of law and where people who break what used to be the first law of defense of our late country (it's illegal to come to the United States illegally) have more rights than native born law abiding United States citizens. While evils are sufferable, they tend to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. Get ready for anarchy in the streets and rebellion in many forms.
vikingcelt, I am not chopping up your comments lightly. Let me put this as clearly as possable.... I WANT EVERYONE TO LET THIS BURN IN . . . By a few quick editing cuts and pastes anyone here can see there is no difference in the offenses we are suffering now and the offenses out founders suffered prior to the revolution. This is exactly what was being referred to by the following quote...
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
This is not just some rabble rousing spouting off, this is a carefully worded observation by a man that was there, right in the middle of it. He knew exactly what he was talking about.
The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.
I am sure that many here can fill in the remainder as to what those conditions were at that time. I am equally sure that there will be the usual naysaying pukes that will make comments such as "the Declaration is not law." Perhaps we will even see"it was never ratified" I can think of a LOT of crap that we put up with in this country that was never "ratified" and the present government if fully aware of it, sits back in pompous smugness, thinking that they will get away with their offenses forever.
The point is that the Declaration was not meant to be part of the Constitution. If it was, the Founders would have put it there and MADE IT part of the Constitution. The Declaration was IMO, meant to be a clear statement of facts and intent, not subject to ratification debate or amendment. Get ready for anarchy in the streets and rebellion in many forms.
WE ARE NOT "CLOSE". . . . WE ARE "THERE"
TLI
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