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To: vikingcelt
Once you understand that "our government" is totally against us and totally on the side of the illegal invaders of our fair land, you will come to realize that if the rule of law does not apply to them then how can it possibly apply to us.?

If, by that very definition, the government is totally against us, it is NOT out government. It is instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

The fact of the matter is, it doesn't apply to us. Not anymore anyway. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. The laws of the United States of America are no more. The rule of law is no more. It's all null and void.

Well, it's like this. See, we don't live in the United States of America anymore. We live in some banana republic where there is no rule of law and where people who break what used to be the first law of defense of our late country (it's illegal to come to the United States illegally) have more rights than native born law abiding United States citizens. While evils are sufferable, they tend to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. Get ready for anarchy in the streets and rebellion in many forms.

vikingcelt, I am not chopping up your comments lightly. Let me put this as clearly as possable.... I WANT EVERYONE TO LET THIS BURN IN . . . By a few quick editing cuts and pastes anyone here can see there is no difference in the offenses we are suffering now and the offenses out founders suffered prior to the revolution. This is exactly what was being referred to by the following quote...

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

This is not just some rabble rousing spouting off, this is a carefully worded observation by a man that was there, right in the middle of it. He knew exactly what he was talking about.

The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.

I am sure that many here can fill in the remainder as to what those conditions were at that time. I am equally sure that there will be the usual naysaying pukes that will make comments such as "the Declaration is not law." Perhaps we will even see"it was never ratified" I can think of a LOT of crap that we put up with in this country that was never "ratified" and the present government if fully aware of it, sits back in pompous smugness, thinking that they will get away with their offenses forever.

The point is that the Declaration was not meant to be part of the Constitution. If it was, the Founders would have put it there and MADE IT part of the Constitution. The Declaration was IMO, meant to be a clear statement of facts and intent, not subject to ratification debate or amendment. Get ready for anarchy in the streets and rebellion in many forms.

WE ARE NOT "CLOSE". . . . WE ARE "THERE"

TLI

20 posted on 09/29/2003 10:07:25 PM PDT by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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To: TLI
Excellent TLI. Very thought provoking. Thanks.
22 posted on 09/30/2003 9:21:00 AM PDT by vikingcelt
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