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New “Freedom Riders” Are Rollin'!
The Rochester Democrat & Chronicle ^ | 9-29-03 | Gary Craig

Posted on 09/29/2003 6:31:43 AM PDT by johnny7

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Hmmm... I wonder if Ms Rodham will be there for this wonderful event. It just oozes with 60's socialist activism.
1 posted on 09/29/2003 6:31:44 AM PDT by johnny7
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To: johnny7
I am afraid that I don't understand this situation, so I need some help.

Let me get this straight:

1. There are a bunch of buses all over the US going on pre-determined routes to Washington D.C.
2. The buses a filled with people.
3. The people on the bus are all illegal aliens.

Why hasn't the INS stopped the bus and arrest and deport the illegals?

What am I missing here? Are some of the people legal, some illegal? Ok. Arrest and deport the illegals, charge the legals with aiding and abetting.

Please help me understand how these buses with illegals are being transported all across the U.S. with relative impunity?

2 posted on 09/29/2003 6:38:21 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: johnny7
"We are the law-breakers who are responsible for the low-wages and increasing poverty of your country. Please reward us. Or else."
3 posted on 09/29/2003 6:38:43 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (France delenda est)
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I wish somebody in the federal gov't had the guts to order the INS to stop everyone of these buses and check the ID of everybody on them. If they weren't citizens or here legally they ship them back to where they cam from. Just the thought of how loud the left would scream would make it worthwhile
4 posted on 09/29/2003 6:40:08 AM PDT by sticker
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Why hasn't the INS stopped the bus and arrest and deport the illegals?

Sorry, I have a little "tard" thing going on this morning. Should have read: Why doesn't the INS stop, arrest, and deport the illegals?

5 posted on 09/29/2003 6:40:33 AM PDT by mattdono
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Please help me understand how these buses with illegals are being transported all across the U.S. with relative impunity?

The country has gone mad. Sorry, that's the best I can do to help you understand.

7 posted on 09/29/2003 7:07:53 AM PDT by truthkeeper
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To: cold_duck
What I don't understand is why we even have immigrant laws anymore. Heck, throw open the borders and let's ruin it all within 2 years instead of waiting a decade or two.

And afterall, why just limit it to Mexicans, there are 5 or 6 billion people around the world who I'm sure would like to live here too. I'm sure it can be arranged.

8 posted on 09/29/2003 7:08:34 AM PDT by wingster
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To: mattdono; sticker; cold_duck; johnny7; ClearCase_guy; HiJinx; gubamyster
"Why hasn't the INS stopped the bus and arrest and deport the illegals?"

Border Patrol detains 'Freedom Riders' in El Paso, then let go.

Our government, republicans and democrats alike, love the criminal invaders. Call Tom Ridge - (202) 282-8000.

HiJinx, gubamyster - Do one of you have a more complete list of numbers to call? I tried finding it to post.

9 posted on 09/29/2003 7:10:17 AM PDT by Ches (Mrs.)
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Dallas paper thos morning has an article on the front page saying that cash from individuals in the US is Mexico's largest source of dollars, more than a billion a month. That is almost $12 billion a year that is earned in the US that is not being spent in the US to improve the US economy.

Who is paying for these busses and why? You know that someone stands to profit but you also know that the spin is, as always, that they are acting to improve the human condition (especially for - all together now - THE CHILDREN).

10 posted on 09/29/2003 7:53:57 AM PDT by Tacis
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Well, the INS/BP did stop 2 busloads outside of El Paso, TX. All the riders went mum, nobody produced any ID, and all were released after nearly 7 hours of detention and 'interrogation.'

Pretty shameful, if you ask me.
11 posted on 09/29/2003 8:14:07 AM PDT by HiJinx (If you're not making waves, you're not kicking hard enough!!)
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Nobody in Congress gives a fu_king sh_t and neither does our President! It's all boils down to votes and bigger government. Bush and the Republicans are idiots to believe that this garbage will vote for them. America's demise will come with a pathetic whimper. We have been gutted by our own elected officials.
12 posted on 09/29/2003 8:39:59 AM PDT by johnny7 (“WE HAVE A RIGHT TO CRITICIZE THIS ADMINISTRATION!!” -Hillary Clinton)
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To: *immigrant_list; A Navy Vet; Lion Den Dan; Free the USA; Libertarianize the GOP; madfly; B4Ranch; ..
ping
13 posted on 09/29/2003 8:53:30 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: HiJinx
That's because this guy was driving!


14 posted on 09/29/2003 9:09:12 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: mattdono
"Please help me understand how these buses with illegals are being transported all across the U.S. with relative impunity."

Well, it's like this. See, we don't live in the United States of America anymore. We live in some banana republic where there is no rule of law and where people who break what used to be the first law of defense of our late country (it's illegal to come to the United States illegally) have more rights than native born law abiding United States citizens and legal immigrants.

Once you understand that "our government" is totally against us and totally on the side of the illegal invaders of our fair land, you will come to realize that if the rule of law does not apply to them then how can it possibly apply to us. The fact of the matter is, it doesn't apply to us. Not anymore anyway. The laws of the United States of America are no more. The rule of law is no more. It's all null and void. Get ready for anarchy in the streets and rebellion in many forms.
15 posted on 09/29/2003 9:09:32 AM PDT by vikingcelt
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Tis a sad day in America.

Now comes the question of which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Was our government corrupt prior to the Mexican invasion or did the Mexican invasion cause our government to be corrupt? Our government is totally corrupt. It is nothing to be proud of anymore.



16 posted on 09/29/2003 9:29:01 AM PDT by texastoo
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Unseemly
18 posted on 09/29/2003 1:45:06 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: johnny7
Bleeding Heart "Freedom Ride" article #2,361.
19 posted on 09/29/2003 4:13:23 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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Once you understand that "our government" is totally against us and totally on the side of the illegal invaders of our fair land, you will come to realize that if the rule of law does not apply to them then how can it possibly apply to us.?

If, by that very definition, the government is totally against us, it is NOT out government. It is instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

The fact of the matter is, it doesn't apply to us. Not anymore anyway. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. The laws of the United States of America are no more. The rule of law is no more. It's all null and void.

Well, it's like this. See, we don't live in the United States of America anymore. We live in some banana republic where there is no rule of law and where people who break what used to be the first law of defense of our late country (it's illegal to come to the United States illegally) have more rights than native born law abiding United States citizens. While evils are sufferable, they tend to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. Get ready for anarchy in the streets and rebellion in many forms.

vikingcelt, I am not chopping up your comments lightly. Let me put this as clearly as possable.... I WANT EVERYONE TO LET THIS BURN IN . . . By a few quick editing cuts and pastes anyone here can see there is no difference in the offenses we are suffering now and the offenses out founders suffered prior to the revolution. This is exactly what was being referred to by the following quote...

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.

This is not just some rabble rousing spouting off, this is a carefully worded observation by a man that was there, right in the middle of it. He knew exactly what he was talking about.

The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute tyranny over these States. To prove this, let facts be submitted to a candid world.

I am sure that many here can fill in the remainder as to what those conditions were at that time. I am equally sure that there will be the usual naysaying pukes that will make comments such as "the Declaration is not law." Perhaps we will even see"it was never ratified" I can think of a LOT of crap that we put up with in this country that was never "ratified" and the present government if fully aware of it, sits back in pompous smugness, thinking that they will get away with their offenses forever.

The point is that the Declaration was not meant to be part of the Constitution. If it was, the Founders would have put it there and MADE IT part of the Constitution. The Declaration was IMO, meant to be a clear statement of facts and intent, not subject to ratification debate or amendment. Get ready for anarchy in the streets and rebellion in many forms.

WE ARE NOT "CLOSE". . . . WE ARE "THERE"

TLI

20 posted on 09/29/2003 10:07:25 PM PDT by TLI (...........ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA..........)
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