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Chip Design outsourcing appears inevitable, EEs told
EE Times ^ | September 25, 2003 | Ron Wilson

Posted on 09/28/2003 10:34:52 AM PDT by nwrep

 

Design outsourcing appears inevitable, EEs told
By Ron Wilson, EE Times
Sep 24, 2003 (12:51 PM)
URL: http://www.eedesign.com/story/OEG20030924S0032

SAN JOSE, Calif. — A panel session at the Custom Integrated Circuits Conference here Tuesday (Sept. 23) debated the implications for U.S. design engineers of IC design outsourcing.

Panelists offered free-market platitudes, candid warnings, reassuring economic generalizations and some incisive observations that may help individual designers find a foothold on what promises to be a slippery slope for the profession in the coming years.

Rakesh Kumar, president of operations-outsourcing venture TCX Inc. (Poway, Calif.) said the U.S. has a long history of outsourcing its key industries, including the steel and automotive businesses. He noted that the electronics industry has followed suit, outsourcing the vast majority of packaging, assembly and test.

"Every industry has done this," Kumar said. "The only difference is at what point the outsourcing curve turns over — at 20 percent, 50 percent or 100 percent of the U.S. capacity." The question is not whether the U.S. will outsource chip design, but whether it will retain some design capability or send out everything, Kumar said.

Kumar posed three questions for the panel: Is chip design outsourcing inevitable? What role will it leave for the US? and What can an individual engineer do about it?

Ann Lee Saxenian, professor of political science at the University of California Berkeley and an author on the subject of economic globalization, documented a substantial flight of the electronics industry from the U.S. She said the U.S. share of the global semiconductor market would drop to 30 percent by 2010, while the Asia-Pacific share would rise to 35 percent and Japan's declined to 20 percent.

In contrast to the overall figures, she noted, 40 percent of all fabless semiconductor revenue flowed into Silicon Valley companies in 2002.

Saxenian described the redistribution of the industry not as outsourcing but as a new global division of labor. In this new order, a once monolithic industry is disaggregating, with individual tasks migrating to locations that can perform them most productively.

Seen in this light, she said, the U.S. would likely retain dominance in IC architectural design, in investment into the semiconductor industry and in design of chip manufacturing equipment and EDA tools.

Ed Ross, president of TSMC USA, charted the competitive landscape in the Chinese, Taiwan and U.S. semiconductor markets. Contrary to most U.S. executives, Ross said Taiwan and China have collectively become a hotbed of design activity. "There are about 350 design houses in Taiwan today, and 500 in mainland China," he said. "Many of these are small, but not all of them. And some are very sophisticated."

Right mix

China in particular had the right mix of advantages to prosper rapidly, he added. "The industry receives heavy government investment in China," Ross said, "and benefits from a very strong local market. But on the minus side, China currently suffers a critical lack of experienced managers, and their continued lack of effective legal protection for intellectual property could become a serious limitation."

On balance, Ross said, China would mature as a design community more rapidly than Taiwan "for one simple reason. They are importing a lot of managers from Taiwan who have already been through the experience." If there is a dark cloud looming over the Chinese industry, Ross said, it is that the huge fab building campaign could lead to global overcapacity by 2005 or 2006.

Werner Goertz, vice president at outsourcing megastore Wipro Technologies (Bangalore, India,) added a different perspective. On a macroeconomic scale, Goertz said design outsourcing was a nonissue. He showed data indicating that the total number of jobs projected to leave the U.S. from outsourcing by 2005 — about 3 million — would be only slightly larger than the number of jobs lost through normal operations in the U.S. in the boom year of 1997.

Further, Goertz said productivity increases from outsourcing enriched U.S.-based companies that outsourced design work. Hence, in a trickle-down view of engineering economics, the job loss benefited the U.S. engineers.

Geortz counseled engineers to effectively run for high ground, or move their careers away from basic design and into architectural design or design management — tasks least likely to be outsourced.

Behrooz Abdi, a vice president heavily involved in mixed-signal design at Motorola, said outsourcing is not just about lower salaries. He said the underlying problems were that productivity growth had outpaced demand, and that companies had lost their differentiation. This has forced faster time to market and lower development costs as a substitute for successful new products.

Abdi agreed that the best path for individual engineers and for companies was to innovate at the systems level rather than trying to differentiate themselves on the basis of chip or circuit design.

Gloomier view

Brian Fitzgerald, chief executive of the small design services house ChipWrights (Boston) was pessimistic.

"I think design outsourcing is necessary to a small company in order to compete," Fitzgerald said, "but in the long term I think it is bad for the country." Fitzgerald said he is continually approached by offshore design shops offering to work "three to five times cheaper than we can do it here.'' The more outsourcing, the more global competition is lowering engineering salaries and career opportunities in the U.S.

"One of my engineers comes to me and says he has to have a 10 percent raise. I know he's good, but I also know I could get maybe five times more work done for the same money I'm paying him now. So what am I going to do?" Fitzgerlad asked. ''The more we cut away at the incentives for people in the U.S. to take up engineering careers, the more we undermine out ability to innovate."

The panel's consensus was that IC design outsourcing is inevitable, and probably irreversible. The U.S. will be left with product specification for the domestic market, architectural design and investment from venture capital firms. All individual engineers can do in the face of a flood of outsourced design work is to flee to the relative safety of system architecture, or target highly individual analog or RF design talents.

They can also cling to the hope that the water stops rising, panlists said.

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1 posted on 09/28/2003 10:34:53 AM PDT by nwrep
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2 posted on 09/28/2003 10:43:34 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: null and void
PING !!

So9

3 posted on 09/28/2003 10:44:12 AM PDT by Servant of the 9 (I am not reptilian, I just have a low basal metabloism.)
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To: nwrep
I’m waiting for these guys to take over. Don’t give me any “free market platitudes”, this is the real threat…
4 posted on 09/28/2003 10:47:09 AM PDT by elfman2
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To: nwrep
any freepers with college bound children should read this carefully: steer your children out of this field and other related fields, they are history in the USA. the entire semiconductor and software industry will be gone in 10 years, and very little of other tech will survive.

child speech therapists around here get $85/hr.
5 posted on 09/28/2003 10:53:02 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: nwrep
Moore's law says one can put more and more transistors into the the same space. This means integrated circuits can be more an more complex over time. The demand for new features in electronics will drive more capability into the same space (witness the cell phones with built-in cameras, satellite TV set top boxes with digital recording built-in, etc.).

The overseas design houses are limited to simpler designs. They will grow as more and more things incorporate electronic technology. However, there will also be needs for very complex ICs in ordinary electronic products.

For many years, computer central processing units have been dominated by American designers. When a cell phone chip has the power, functionality, and transistor count of a personal computer, who will design it? Americans.

Because of this, I do not believe the American seminconductor design industry will be outsourced, instead it will be upleveled.

The IC pie is going to get much, much bigger. That is the point many people are missing.
6 posted on 09/28/2003 10:59:20 AM PDT by magellan
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To: oceanview
Train you kids for a job in government or law.
7 posted on 09/28/2003 10:59:33 AM PDT by Georgia_JimD
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To: nwrep
It's about money.

If a company can get more bang for the buck by going abroad it will do so. Our government will first and foremost protect the capital of investors and only after that is done will it seek to protect jobs of American workers.

8 posted on 09/28/2003 10:59:49 AM PDT by liberallarry
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To: magellan
no way. it won't get upleveled because there is no investment in it here, all of the investment (by the top corporations and the foreign governments) is offshore. who is going to invest here in the US to uplevel our chip industry?
9 posted on 09/28/2003 11:04:59 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: nwrep
WE - AMERICA - have one big major advantage - that is if we don't "Dumb Down" our children any more....

We attained our great level from MOTIVATION, NECESSITY, and IMAGINATION.

The American inventiveness - due to our CAPITALISTIC SYSTEM - has been unsurpassed and all the other countries in the world are jealously trying to steal it.

But you can't steal an attitude! You CAN only destroy it from within.

These three things are under attack in our publik skulz.

Through the systematic use of DRUGS on our children, especially the male - sorry but males have tetostrone which is the main source of motivation and inventiveness, thanks to the females of the species! I know this sounds a bit sexist but facts are facts. the male mind is more suited for the wild creations, whereas the female mind is perfect for making our wild creations workable. Hey! It's a partnership!

Through drugs, "PC Speech", and other left-wing radical ideas being hammered into the childrens' minds, our kids are lacking in imagination, concentration, and are perfect for being little SLAVE-ZOMBIES - and if that doesn't work - import illegal aliens for slave labor and get rid of the American Mind.
10 posted on 09/28/2003 11:06:11 AM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: oceanview
ENCOURAGE your children in these fields! Also teach them the necessary skills for battle.
11 posted on 09/28/2003 11:07:52 AM PDT by steplock (www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
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To: nwrep
Saxenian described the redistribution of the industry not as outsourcing but as a new global division of labor

Pitiful...So as long as the engineers stay here, all this means is that it's a little longer trek to the shop floor...

Most people don't hang out at FR so they just don't get it...This is the very beginning of a very large exodus to eliminate the US of the middle class...

And we're expected to be proud of the group that is behind it...

12 posted on 09/28/2003 11:09:27 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Georgia_JimD

Train you kids for a job in government or law.

Yeah, that's what this country needs. More politicians and lawyers.

13 posted on 09/28/2003 11:12:13 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: steplock
sounds nice. i don't want my kids fighting for the scraps with Chinese engineers making 1/10th the salary.
14 posted on 09/28/2003 11:14:43 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: Iscool
exactly right.
15 posted on 09/28/2003 11:16:22 AM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

any freepers with college bound children should read this carefully: steer your children out of this field and other related fields, they are history in the USA.

Naw, that wouldn't be a good thing. Maybe the reason this field is leaving the US is because Americans are leaving this field. It's just getting too expensive to hire help in the chip industry.

If we want to keep this country free. We need to have high tech workers.

16 posted on 09/28/2003 11:18:30 AM PDT by Dan Evans
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To: Dan Evans
New around here, but I like the way you think :)

Jammer
17 posted on 09/28/2003 11:23:11 AM PDT by JammingJAY
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To: magellan
The IC pie is going to get much, much bigger. That is the point many people are missing.

Exactly. You can make a living being a chef without having to personally pick the lettuce.

They can move the manufacturing, design, and software writing overseas, but they cannot move the customer there. Look at tennis shoes, the money is made in the Athlete's Foot store where they fit the customer to the shoe, not in the factory where the workers get a few cents off each hundred dollar pair of sneakers.

18 posted on 09/28/2003 11:27:27 AM PDT by hunter112
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To: magellan
"The IC pie is going to get much, much bigger. That is the point many people are missing."

Why wouldn't the Chinese companies (or government) simply take over the entire process and bring in needed experts when the need arises?
19 posted on 09/28/2003 11:31:40 AM PDT by JohnSmithee
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To: Dan Evans
"We need to have high tech workers."

Engineering has been in decline for years. Just check out the Want Ads from any large parper to get an idea of what skills are in demand.
20 posted on 09/28/2003 11:33:34 AM PDT by JohnSmithee
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