California Recall Daily Thread (9/28/2003) 9 Days To Go

In just 9 days the people of California will choose a Governor and as a result set a course that will affect the future of the state and our country in profound ways. This thread has been created to keep us all informed of the important developments.

I invite you to post all the major recall stories here or if it has already been posted, then add links to these posts. We welcome discussions of the candidates, the issues, campaign strategy, the polls, etc. Please be civil in your comments.

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SPEND SOME, LOSE SOME

New York Times ^ | September 28, 2003 | DEAN E. MURPHY
Posted on 09/28/2003 3:54 AM PDT by calcowgirl

In California, the Propositions Keep Rolling Along
SACRAMENTO, Calif. — It was the last question of a long and raucous debate here, almost an afterthought, and for many television viewers it probably sounded like a lot of bureaucratic mumbo jumbo after the evening's theatrics.

But perhaps more than any of the other questions posed to Arnold Schwarzenegger and the candidates seeking Gov. Gray Davis's job, the one asking whether they supported Proposition 53 struck at the heart of the chronic budget and taxation problems in California that have fueled the recall campaign and will undoubtedly haunt any new governor....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990919/posts

Casino issue receiving national attention

Hesperia Star ^ | Tue Sep, 23 2003 | PETER DAY/Assistant Editor
Posted on 09/28/2003 9:30 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Mayor Dennis Nowicki is accustomed to interviews with local journalists about the casino issue. Now newspapers from much farther away are interested in Hesperia’s story.

Last week, Rick Green, a staff writer with the Hartford Courant in Hartford, Conn., traveled 3,000 miles to talk to Nowicki and others about Hesperia’s agreement with the Timbisha-Shoshone tribe. Hesperia’s proposal is particularly interesting to Green, who writes exclusively on tribal and gaming issues, because it involves a proposed off-reservation casino.

“I am particularly interested in communities that are dealing with the question of off-reservation casinos,” Green said. “Off-reservation casinos are potentially a big deal in Connecticut. I was attracted to Hesperia because the proposal is for an off-reservation casino.” ....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991031/posts

COMIC MILLER MIGHT RANT FOR OFFICE

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September 28, 2003 -- Arnold Schwarzenegger may be the latest celebrity to transform himself into a candidate for high California office, but if some Republican political operatives have their way, he will not be the last.

The comedian Dennis Miller is being talked about - apparently seriously - as a Republican candidate for a statewide post.

Three Republican strategists interviewed in the last week have said they want to draft Miller into politics.

One, a prominent Republican operative and Schwarzenegger aide who spoke on the condition of anonymity said that once the recall election is over, he plans to recruit Miller to challenge Barbara Boxer for her Senate seat next year.

The comedian, famous for his raunchy and irreverent rants and his stint on "Saturday Night Live" more than a decade ago, provided the Schwarzenegger campaign's official post-debate spin in Sacramento on Wednesday night.Los Angeles Times

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California: Few catch glimpse of Bustamante. Candidate besieged by crowd numbered in single digits

Monterey Herald ^ | September 28, 2003 | Victoria Manley
Posted on 09/28/2003 9:37 AM PDT by John Jorsett

Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante didn't have time for small talk when he dropped into Salinas on his campaign trail Saturday. Not that there were many who seemed to care.

Bustamante, who has mostly run on a "no on recall, yes on Bustamante" campaign for California governor, visited with a small group at a private fund-raiser in a home south of Salinas.

Apparently, anyone not willing to pay to speak with Bustamante was out of luck. The politician arrived in a private jet at Salinas Municipal Airport at 4 p.m., and within minutes of landing was whisked into a black sedan....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991040/posts

California: Davis wants 'Live' debate

Sacramento Bee ^ | September 28, 2003 | Gary Delsohn
Posted on 09/28/2003 10:05 AM PDT by John Jorsett

LOS ANGELES -- It was less than two weeks ago that Arnold Schwarzenegger took his message directly to voters on Larry King's popular talk show, but the actor refused King's invitation Saturday to come on again and debate Gov. Gray Davis one on one. Aides to the Republican movie star characterized Davis' demand for a debate as an act of desperation "by a politician who is facing political extinction," but Davis, after a ceremony in which he signed six bills designed to protect the elderly, said he can't understand why Schwarzenegger won't slug it out with him....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991050/posts

Isolated at Home, McClintock Finds New Friends

Los Angeles Times ^ | September 28, 2003 | Daryl Kelley and Megan Garvey
Posted on 09/28/2003 9:42 AM PDT by TERMINATTOR

Little known outside the state until now, McClintock has struck a chord with the right wing of the Republican Party nationwide with his frank presentation of his point of view — anti-tax, anti-big government, anti-abortion, anti-gun control, anti-illegal immigration, anti-gay marriage.

"Tom is one of us," said Richard A. Viguerie, who has founded dozens of conservative organizations over the last 40 years and pioneered direct-mail fund-raising for the Republican Party in the 1970s and '80s. "And it's so exciting to have someone who wants to be associated with us, who will walk with us, win or lose. I see Tom as being a major national conservative leader in the future." ....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991042/posts

Poll: Davis in peril, Schwarzenegger strongman New California Poll)

CNN ^ | september 28, 2003 | CNN/Gallup
Posted on 09/28/2003 10:20 AM PDT by redlipstick

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Voters in the California recall election might be poised to kick Gov. Gray Davis out and vote Republican Arnold Schwarznegger in, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Sunday.

When asked how they they would vote on recalling Davis, 63 percent of probable voters said they would vote yes, compared with 35 percent who would vote no.

In a separate vote to choose a replacement for Davis, Schwarzenegger was the choice of 40 percent of respondents.

Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante was the choice for 25 percent of voters polled, Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock received 18 percent.

The poll showed Green Party candidate Peter Camejo with 5 percent and syndicated columnist and independent candidate Arianna Huffington with 2 percent of the respondents' support....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991055/posts

California: No single policy for racial data. Prop 54 foes say information is still necessary

Sacramento Bee ^ | September 28, 2003 | Jim Sanders
Posted on 09/28/2003 10:25 AM PDT by John Jorsett

Halle Berry, the daughter of a Caucasian mother and an African American father, would be counted as mixed race by the U.S. census. But the Oscar-winning actress would be counted as African American at the University of California.

And if she applied to California State University, Berry would have to choose between the two races or be listed as "declined to state."

Proposition 54 on the Oct. 7 ballot is fueled, in part, by a policy mishmash in which agencies can't seem to agree on what needs to be tracked -- or how....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991059/posts

States Moving to End Tribes' Tax-Free Sales

The New York Times ^ | September 27, 2003 | PAM BELLUCK
Posted on 09/27/2003 3:27 PM PDT by sarcasm

HARLESTOWN, R.I., Sept. 23 — The sign on the tan box of a building on the Indian reservation here still says Narragansett Smoke Shop, and lashed to a tree out front is a sales pitch for Salem cigarettes at $31.99 a carton....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990746/posts

Hillary Warns Californians: Arnold is a Right-winger

NewsMax ^ | 9-28 | NewsMax
Posted on 09/28/2003 11:10 AM PDT by ambrose

Reprinted from NewsMax.com
Sunday Sept. 28, 2003; 11:25 a.m. EDT
Hillary Warns Californians: Arnold is a Right-winger

New York Sen. Hillary Clinton warned Californians on Friday that GOP gubernatorial front-runner Arnold Schwarzenegger is part of a right-wing stampede hell-bent on taking over California the same way they've taken over the nation....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991075/posts

Prop. 54 Drive Stirs Campus Flap - UC Berkeley funds campaign against, compulsory student fees used

www.berkeleydailyplanet.com/ ^
Posted on 09/28/2003 11:10 AM PDT by chance33_98

By MATTHEW ARTZ (09-26-03)

Caught in a blizzard of outdated and conflicting regulations, UC Berkeley is trying to determine whether the student government violated UC laws by funding a campaign against Proposition 54.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991076/posts

The California Recall Davis Scorecard

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | September 28, 2003
Posted on 09/28/2003 11:11 AM PDT by John Jorsett

As the recall race nears its finish, a major question persists: How bad off is California? Experts separate the rhetoric from reality and assess how the state has fared under Davis when it comes to the four E's: the economy, environment, energy and education....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991078/posts

WHEN and HOW will the Gray Davis "Slime Machine" attack Arnold? [Post YOUR predictions here!]

September 28, 2003 | RonDog
Posted on 09/28/2003 12:13 PM PDT by RonDog

Many political analysts believe
that the
Gray Davis "Slime Machine"
will soon unleash the
"Mother of all Negative Attacks"
against
Arnold Schwarzenegger.

image from www.ccfcu.org
What do YOU think?
WHEN will the Gray Davis "Slime Machine" attack?
WHERE is Arnold vulnerable?

HOW can we stop them? ....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991099/posts

Recall down to a Schwarzenegger-Davis duel [BustaBoogeyman is fading]

Sfgate ^ | 9-28 | Phillip Matier, Andrew Ross
Posted on 09/28/2003 12:38 PM PDT by ambrose

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Polls find backup option Bustamante is losing his luster with swing Democratic voters

Phillip Matier, Andrew Ross
Sunday, September 28, 2003
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Forget the Cruz Bustamante "fallback strategy" or the long list of other candidates -- when all is said and done, the recall race is coming down to a face-off between Gov. Gray Davis and Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger, internal tracking polls show....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991105/posts

Schwarzenegger barnstorms around California as other candidates meet

HeraldTribune ^ | 9-28 | HeraldTribune
Posted on 09/28/2003 12:41 PM PDT by ambrose

Schwarzenegger barnstorms around California as other candidates meet

By ERICA WERNER and JIM WASSERMAN
Associated Press Writers
SANTA MARIA, Calif. --

With the campaign to recall Gov. Gray Davis entering its final full week, Arnold Schwarzenegger was barnstorming around California in a private jet on Sunday, talking to invited crowds in airport hangars....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991106/posts

Calif. recall holds dilemma for liberals

AP | 9/28/03
Posted on 09/28/2003 11:22 AM PDT by kattracks

SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — California's recall election offers voters on the left some tantalizing choices, including a media-savvy independent who favors public financing of campaigns and a Green anti-war activist with socialist roots.
At first, it seemed that with so many candidates splitting the vote, the race might provide an opportunity for someone outside the political mainstream to get elected.

As the campaign nears its conclusion, however, liberals are facing a more conventional dilemma....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991081/posts

GOP trying to budge McClintock supporters

Kansas.com ^ | 9-28 | Kansas.com
Posted on 09/28/2003 1:20 PM PDT by ambrose

Posted on Sun, Sep. 28, 2003
By Barry Witt
Mercury News

If Republican state Sen. Tom McClintock keeps his promise to see this recall election all the way to its conclusion Oct. 7, then the real pressure will shift to Melissa Zenor.

Never heard of her? ....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991115/posts

Freeper dpwiener: Davis is Toast, BustaBoogeyman May Finish Third

dpwiener
Posted on 09/28/2003 1:40 PM PDT by ambrose

Sunday, September 28, 2003
posted 9/28/2003 11:53:27 AM by Daniel Wiener

Republicans are in full panic mode that McClintock will tilt the election to Bustamante.

Democrats are in full panic mode that Bustamante is dead in the water.

Polls show Davis is way behind and maybe even losing ground.

Folks, it's over. Gray Davis is dead, burnt, ash of toast. Arnold Schwarzenegger is the new governor. And Tom McClintock is the new conservative hero....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991122/posts

Running Down California- Davis can't blame Arnold for the state's problems

Los Angeles Daily News ^ | September 28, 2003 | Editorial
Posted on 09/28/2003 1:53 PM PDT by Mark

In an unconventional campaign filled with many an over-the-top statement and the occasional whopper, Gov. Gray Davis has delivered the biggest doozy yet.

Complaining about possible-successor Arnold Schwarzenegger's assessment of California government, Davis quipped, "I'm tired of him running down the state of California."

That's right, Davis accused someone else of running down California. How's that for irony? ....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/991129/posts

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