Posted on 09/27/2003 11:25:10 PM PDT by buzzyboop
Edited on 04/22/2004 12:37:18 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
Right on the money.
I've noticed an amazing lack of introspection on this site. If Arnold loses it simply can't be his fault - it must be McClintock's. When GHW Bush lost it was all due to Perot.
It's like listening to a few Penn State fans claim the refs cost us yesterday's game. The refs made one bad call, while our coaches made numerous foolish calls throughout the game. Anyone who can be honest with themselves can see that, but I suppose it's easier to shut your eyes real tight and pretend the world is against you.
People like buzzyboop live some type of idealized fantasy world. The left has used incrementalism with devasting, incredible success for the last 100 years. But, buzzyboop types, rather than learning from success, still insist on "I WANT IT ALL, NOW". And that's why they are getting ZERO most of the time of keep getting outsmarted by the left.
offer a 50% chance of nothing.
No, in politics, it's usually a 95% chance of nothing.
Arnold's doing what it takes. And he will probably win without McClintock pulling out. In the meantime McClintock surely knows by now he's at a distant 3rd. He's doing everything he can to siphon off votes for Arnold and ensure that the GOP loses the governor's seat.
Gee, guess what guys? He is, that's why 50% on this board (very conservative) are supporting him. That's also why a large number of California's GOP conservative leadership are supporting him.
Of course I rely on the actual polls and endorsements to make this statement. Maybe I should rely on nothing like you two and just make stuff up.
50% of the people on this board are supporting Arnold because:
1. They're more interested in the illusion of power, by whatever method is available, than fighting to put actual conservatives in power
2. They aren't conservatives
3. They've formed a chat club on the internet and ping their friends to every debate, at which point their primary interest is juvenile debating tactics intended to elect Arnold as an end unto itself
Certainly most are well-meaning, but in my estimation a bit misguided. Hopefully they'll come around soon...
That's also why a large number of California's GOP conservative leadership are supporting him.
#1 and #2 applies equally to that group.
Regards.
Then they come here and argue the issues. Then hope that the leader in the polls shares at least a percentage of what they believe. What a waste of a Republic
They don't "overlook" Arnold's words....truth is, they hold many of his same positions. This forum has changed a lot since it's earlier days. It's taken a strong turn toward the liberal/neo-con persuasion after Robinson's purge of many of the core Conservative members. "Right-wing nuts" as they say. Back in the ealier days....anyone supporting a liberal like Arnold would have been run-out of the forum on a rail. Now they seemingly are the majority here.
I read all the passionate arguments to vote for Arnold because he can win and then I find if he does win, he wants to reduce rights of people to keep and bear arms.
I won't vote for people who "CAN WIN" who promise to take away my rights.
What kind of victory is that?
Where people are fooled is they want a GOP victory so bad, they don't see the GOP has been re-defined by liberals who have hijacked it. They really want the OLD GOP to win but the candidates they support are far different in philosophy than those of that OLD GOP.
1. They're more interested in the illusion of power, by whatever method is available, than fighting to put actual conservatives in power
2. They aren't conservatives
3. They've formed a chat club on the internet and ping their friends to every debate, at which point their primary interest is juvenile debating tactics intended to elect Arnold as an end unto itself
You continue to completely misjudge the majority here who support Arnold (like me) and the reason they do. Why is that when we keep explaining why? Do you want to know the truth or just keep mumbling "stuff" that makes you happy?
The majority here who support Arnold DO NOT agree with some of his liberal positions. Got that?! DO NOT, repeat DO NOT. They are not secret closet liberals as you keep claiming. That's nonsense.
Most who support Arnold that the "I WANT ALL OR NOTHING NOW" philosophy of you guys is a LOSER'S strategy that does ZERO for really getting conservative policies actually implemented, rather than just discussed.
Most of us choose not to live in a fantasy world of make-believe. "Gee, all of these moderates and independant will vote for a hard core conservative."
Most of us actually believe Reagan's words that it was better to get some of what you believe in today and live to fight for the rest tommorow.
I was talking to the other poster about how some Conservatives would rather throw the baby out with the bath-water, and therefore NEVER get anything accomplished .
You obviously disagree and that is your right.
When Jim Robinson disapproves of me enough, I am sure he will let me know. Until then, I am going to assume that I am as welcome here as anyone else.
Tia
You need to back off the caffine....
See my reply to Chancellor Palpatine in post # 63 in this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/990495/posts?page=63#63
True...they were nuts...now those of us donning tin-foil do it to purely invoke humour.
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