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New Chamber of Commerce Poll: Recall leading 53-41%, Arnold 35%, Cruz 31%, Tom 17%
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| 9-27
| Chamber of Commerce Poll
Posted on 09/27/2003 8:37:49 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: FairOpinion
Heh heh.
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posted on
09/27/2003 9:17:19 PM PDT
by
CheneyChick
(Kah-lee-fohr-nyah)
To: ambrose
I greatly appreciate it when someone admits his or her error. thank you.
42
posted on
09/27/2003 9:17:26 PM PDT
by
fqued
(California = Caliph's paradise??)
To: FRgal4u
Your comments may be apt for a regular general election.
But not this extraordinary recall.
Bustamante's poll numbers indicate he is not getting traction.
Once again California Republicans have failed to take advantage of their advantages.
To: ambrose
Tom went from 12% to 17% since the Chamber of Commerce's last poll on Sept 1-4. Arnold has gone from 33% to 35%. Arnold was at 28% in the Sept. 1-4 poll. That means he's risen 7 percentage points while Tom's risen 5, a net gain of 2% for Arnold.
But what are facts to a blind, Mclinader supporter?
44
posted on
09/27/2003 9:20:26 PM PDT
by
South40
(Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante)
To: bootyist-monk
LOL, those eyes looked familiar.
45
posted on
09/27/2003 9:20:38 PM PDT
by
Victoria Delsoul
(Arnold has the conviction and the fighting spirit to lead California into a new age of recovery)
To: Yossarian
BUT the best way Arnie can earn votes is for Tom to sit down with him and discuss what their differences are, You make a good point. It is too late though.
Schwarzenegger has decided to run even further left than Bustamante on many issues.
Nothing he can do will get me to vote for him.
I feel first priority is to acheive recall. Second is that Schwarzenegger does not win.
To: Yossarian
But both of us know that Tom won't do this. Losing does NOTHING for Tom's career or his causes. If it keeps Schwarzenegger from winning it will have been a very noble endeavor.
To: tallhappy
Once again California Republicans have failed to take advantage of their advantages.
Au contraire--the California Republicans are doing just fine. In this poll a Republican is first and another third, that's actually doing quite well, thank you. Looking forward to Gubner Ahnold.
48
posted on
09/27/2003 9:21:50 PM PDT
by
fqued
(California = Caliph's paradise??)
To: RedBloodedAmerican
The ONLY way McC can win is if he is the ONLY candidate running, period. Wake up. I am awake. Open your eyes.
McClintock wins if Scwarzenegger loses.
We all win if Schwarzenegger loses.
To: BikerNYC
Arnold made a mistake when he turned down Davis' [sic] debate challenge. A debate would make the political faultline clearer.
Clearer? Ha ha ha ha ha. The recall has made the political faultline (it's Davis's fault) as clear as it needs to be.
50
posted on
09/27/2003 9:23:33 PM PDT
by
aruanan
To: All
Please Vote For Tom!
51
posted on
09/27/2003 9:23:51 PM PDT
by
ambrose
(Make October 7th the Official "Hug-a-RINO Day")
To: ambrose
McClintock's positive to negative numbers are incredible for a "right winger". He has an excellent jump start for a future statewide run. Regardless his numbers, if he hands this race to bustamante he'll have jump started the demise of his political career.
52
posted on
09/27/2003 9:24:26 PM PDT
by
South40
(Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante)
To: tallhappy
You've put up a damn good fight. But as the clock ticks down, keep your eye on Bob Mulholland. If he doesn't produce the goods, it is better to live and fight another day...
53
posted on
09/27/2003 9:24:57 PM PDT
by
ambrose
(Make October 7th the Official "Hug-a-RINO Day")
To: seamole
Kings and Queens usually go by their first names, civilian politicians by their last names.I'm probably about to be sombody's set up man but how does "W" fit in here?
54
posted on
09/27/2003 9:27:38 PM PDT
by
byteback
To: Victoria Delsoul
We might as well consider it a done deal. Say hello to Governor Schwarzenegger!
55
posted on
09/27/2003 9:27:43 PM PDT
by
Alberta's Child
("To freedom, Alberta, horses . . . and women!")
To: deport
Early Sept Poll to this Poll
McClintock
Negatives: from 20 to 27%
Know Positive: from 39 to 50%
Overall support: 12 to 17%
Republicans: 23 to 27%
democrat: 4 to 8%
Other/ind: 10 to 19%
Schwarzenegger:
Negatives: from 34 to 36%
Know Positive: 52 to 55%
Overall support: 28 to 35%
Republicans: 44 to 60%
Democrats: 13 to 17%
Other/Ind: 30 to 27%
Poll Internals........ very interesting
http://www.calchamber.com/PDF/03597ResultsMemo.pdf
56
posted on
09/27/2003 9:27:49 PM PDT
by
deport
To: tallhappy
And in what election, EVER, has half of a leading candidate's support switched sides, 10 days away from an election? Even in the face of scandal?
tallhappy, I'm pretty sure that you're the guy that posts a lot of good articles about the abuses going on in Red China. But please look at the plusses and minuses of Tom's stubborn stand. There is NO precedent for any kind of winning situation to happen for Tom.
If Schwartenegger wins, we'll be facing some issues we don't like one bit, but we'll be far better off with him that Busty. We'd REALLY be better off with someone with the ideas and knowledge of McClintock on the inside of the winning team.
So to summarize:
1. There is NO (even remotely) plausible scenario for Tom to win;
2. There WAS (before absentee ballots started pouring in) a very plausible scenario for Tom to be on the inside of the winning team;
3. There IS a good chance that, through normal political means, Tom can extract public promises from Arnold; and
4. There IS a GREAT chance Tom can cause a disaster (Gov. Bustamonte) to be visited upon our state if he continues on this course.
Having ideals is great. Not having a clue how to realistically your ideals to reality sucks.
To: ambrose
I'm not fighting anyone. I'm just saying what I think and providing info.
To: Alberta's Child
We might as well consider it a done deal. Say hello to Governor Schwarzenegger! Hello Governor Schwarzenegger! :-)
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posted on
09/27/2003 9:29:12 PM PDT
by
Victoria Delsoul
(Arnold has the conviction and the fighting spirit to lead California into a new age of recovery)
To: Yossarian
And in what election, EVER, has half of a leading candidate's support switched sides, 10 days away from an election? When was the last California recall election?
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