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There are so many laugh-out-loud howlers from these pontificating snobs, I don't even know where to begin. Since it's 6:15 am, I won't even bother for now. Just read and enjoy.
1 posted on 09/27/2003 3:17:41 AM PDT by Timesink
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CNN Schadenfreude / Media Shenanigans ping...

You GOTTA read this one!


2 posted on 09/27/2003 3:18:35 AM PDT by Timesink
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If you can paint your opponent as an extremist and yourself as sweet reason, you have won the debate. So "objectivity" is the high PR ground, and it is natural for journalists to use their PR power to claim it.

The easy way to success being to go along and get along, journalists have adopted a system for avoiding unnecessary contention for the status of "objective journalist." Adherence to this code by journalists means that it is sensible to speak of "journalism" as an entity, an Estatblishment.

It is of the nature of an Establishment that, like the mafia, it "doesn't exist"--but you'd better not cross it! The journalistic Establishment coheres in the following code:

The objectivity of anyone who adheres to the party line that journalists are objective is never challenged by any other member of journalism Establishment.

If a Bernard Goldberg does write a Bias, he does not cease being a journalist--he is an unperson who never was a journalist.


6 posted on 09/27/2003 4:03:37 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The everyday blessings of God are great--they just don't make "good copy.")
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Woodruff added that the motto should be unnecessary for any news organization. "Fox is concerned about its news reputation. At CNN, we don't need to use those terms," she said.

That's right Judy. CNN no longer has a reputation for delivering accurate news. Only the New York Times has a worse reputation these days.

9 posted on 09/27/2003 4:29:32 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a Tagline!)
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...most media are owned by Republican conservatives...

as opposed to true conservatives.

10 posted on 09/27/2003 4:42:29 AM PDT by massadvj
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Woodruff added that the motto should be unnecessary for any news organization. "Fox is concerned about its news reputation. At CNN, we don't need to use those terms," she said.

Woodruff is full of used food.

CNN is so concerned with their reputation that it ain't funny.

They know they look like sh*t, and that consumers are calling them on it. That's why the bad-mouthing of FNC all the time.

All these folks are upset that any "independent" voice would stray from the "journalistic ideal" that these morons all are hammered with in J-school. And when Fox took the model and turned it on it's ear and people responded, all hell broke loose.

CNN and the others are looking over their shoulders when they walk, now. They know the writing is on the wall.

11 posted on 09/27/2003 4:43:28 AM PDT by mhking (Anyone who disagrees with me is mentally ill and should be shot.)
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What a freak'in joke. The main stream media (msm) has been so biased for so long that it (a) IS fair and balanced to those people who are in the middle of it every day and (b) becomes the middleground or yardstick used to measure wether or not anything out side of the msm is "fair and objective".

Using that paradigm, anything besides communism appears to be "extreme" right wing. The way they so smugly sit there and state it like gospel makes my blood boil. It evaporates when I hear people who watch that crap agree with them out of ignorance.

12 posted on 09/27/2003 4:49:49 AM PDT by leadpencil1 (Kill your television)
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Woodruff and her former co-propagandist, Bernard Shaw,are two monuments to the quota system of Affirmative Action!
13 posted on 09/27/2003 4:51:10 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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Woodruff and her former co-propagandist, Bernard Shaw,are two monuments to the quota system of Affirmative Action!
14 posted on 09/27/2003 4:51:10 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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Good comments bump. The propaganda machine is breaking down. Judy Woodruff reminds me of "weeping Patsy Schroeder". She is clueless.
15 posted on 09/27/2003 4:56:42 AM PDT by PGalt
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And I see that CNN hasn't learned a thing from their ratings plunge.
16 posted on 09/27/2003 5:38:41 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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<< .... the media also creates [sic] a feeding frenzy, MacNeil said. He pointed to the mixture of horror and titillation found in ... Clinton's lying sexual activity.

"The media enjoyed .... the greatest ["presidential"] plunge into depravity that ever happened," MacNeil said. >>

Glad some enjoyed it.

The other 99.9999% of Americans and of the FRee World's population will spend the next few decades suffering the consequences of that predatory, treasonous, lying, looting, mass-murdering, serial-rapist sack of sh*t having, along with his co-serially-raping gang, for eight long years, so squalidly squatted and bemanured our once most hallowed house.

Those who staff the world's media are recruited exclusively from the detritrous tank that collects the oozings and excretions of the talent pool's intellectually and morally insolvent bottom feeders.

The lowest of the low.
17 posted on 09/27/2003 5:39:38 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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Curley admits that the media is biased to the left:

"While journalists are often accused of having a liberal bias, "most media are owned by Republican conservatives, so there is a healthy balance and tension" within the news operation, Curley said."

The ownership is balanced by the liberal media. Isn't this what Curley is saying? But the argument over bias has to do with the content of what the media say, which only the liberal reporters create.

And they wonder, why tens of millions of Americans don't believe a word out of the mainstream media. This is so bad, it could be parody.

21 posted on 09/27/2003 6:27:27 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt
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Who else found it hypocritical that in a forum organized to discuss Media Bias, and with all the resulting FNC-bashing ...

... no one bothered to invite a FNC representative for a little balance?

26 posted on 09/27/2003 7:56:40 AM PDT by martin_fierro (Great Googlymoogly!)
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...Now, we see the country pulling apart on Iraq."

Should read: "We are now pulling the country apart on Iraq."

27 posted on 09/27/2003 8:13:24 AM PDT by raybbr
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One more all-liberal "panel" of leftie reporters and limousine liberals whining about how the conservatives have all the money and all the influence. Oh, sure. That's why you see so many of them at these conferences.
28 posted on 09/27/2003 8:29:02 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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This piece clearly shows that  leftist bias permeates the American Media completely.

We chose to name our website fairpress.org because we perceive the media to be totally unfair.

The coming year is going to be hell for us that follow the subject closely. The leftist have only the lying media to prop up their pacifist claims of defeatism.

Cogito, ergo FReepum

CCRM is a Free Republic Network affiliate working to reduce media bias.

For a comprehensive overview of Freeper thoughts on Liberal Media bias, check out our website by clicking on graphic, or HERE: We call it Fairpress.org.

This thread is evidence that liberal bias is still with us. Come join our team and engage in the battle against the Liberal Media.

31 posted on 09/27/2003 9:31:24 AM PDT by bert (Don't Panic!)
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These blowhards are so critical of Fox News because FOX is wiping the floor with them all in the ratings. CNN is absolutely tanking. It makes me sick to hear these elitist talk about not trusting the government, when these media thugs are more corrupt than the government. I loved John F. Burns (NYT Foreign Correspondant) recent quote "There is corruption in our Business" & slammed reporters & news organizations for paying off the Iraqi regime & pandering to them and not telling the world the truth for the past decade. He said Saddam Hussein & his thugs were the worst in the world except maybe North Korea. I think he compared Hussein to Hitler somewhere in his remarks. I don't need these liberal media elites and their lies. The internet and our access to so many media outlets around the world has castrated these b**tards.
34 posted on 09/27/2003 9:52:37 AM PDT by nightowl
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"The media enjoyed .... the greatest ["presidential"] plunge into depravity that ever happened," MacNeil said.

They enjoyed it so much.... Tell me again, which "mainsteam" Media Giant dug up this scandal and broke it with their brilliant investigative reporting-- NYT? NBC? Time? Mybe CNN---considering Judy's comment, "The tough questions have to be asked of political figures." I'm sure there was a representative of that Giant at this meeting. Wasn't there?

36 posted on 09/27/2003 5:07:58 PM PDT by stands2reason
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FoxFan ping!

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38 posted on 09/27/2003 7:36:23 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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