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Neuharth Panel Asks: "Is Media Fair?' (BARF-O-RAMA Alert! Judy Woodruff bashes Fox, & other laughs)
Yankton Daily Press & Dakotan ^ | September 26, 2003 | Randy Dockendorf

Posted on 09/27/2003 3:17:40 AM PDT by Timesink

Web posted Friday, September 26, 2003


Neuharth Panel Asks: 'Is Media Fair?'

BY RANDY DOCKENDORF


P&D Regional Editor

VERMILLION -- Are the media fair and accurate?

Well, fairness, like beauty, becomes pretty subjective, a panel of the nation's top journalists said Thursday night at the University of South Dakota.

The event, titled "Is the Free Press A Fair Press?," concluded a two-day celebration of the $5 million renovation of the Al Neuharth Media Center on the USD campus. Neuharth was on hand for the event, which was broadcast live on South Dakota Public Television.

Neuharth, a 1950 USD graduate, founded USA TODAY, the nation's largest daily newspaper. He also founded the Freedom Forum, dedicated to free speech, press and spirit.

USD President Jim Abbott, who welcomed the audience, jokingly referred to the frenzy of activities surrounding Neuharth's return to campus.

"I am president of the University of South Dakota, but after today's festivities, it could be called the University of Neuharth," Abbott said.

Thursday's panelists featured the following past Neuharth Award winners: Louis Boccardi, the former chief executive officer, and Tom Curley, the chief executive officer, of the Associated Press; Robert MacNeil, former host of "The MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour"; John Siegenthaler, founder of the First Amendment Center; and Judy Woodruff, anchor for the Cable News Network.

In keeping with the symposium's theme, the panelists were asked about the perception -- particularly among politicians -- that the media are unfair.

"Fairness is in the eye of the beholder and whose ox is gored," MacNeil said.

Politicians often feel the media are unfair because of the adversarial relationship between the two sides, Boccardi said. "The media casts a skeptical eye on government, and neither side is completely happy," he said.

Reporting also becomes a creature of the times, Woodruff said, noting the extraordinary events polarizing the nation.

"We had the presidential election of 2000, where we agonized for 38 days over the recount. There was disagreement over how it was reported," she said. "Then after 9/11, we pulled together in the aftermath. Now, we see the country pulling apart on Iraq."

News organizations also need to do a better job explaining what they do and make corrections when needed, Woodruff said. "I think you gain credibility when you tell people that you made a mistake," she said.

But even with a reporter's best efforts, both sides often won't be satisfied with controversial stories, Siegenthaler said. "The perception becomes so deep, so hostile, that there's no way to make it fair," he said.

The debate over media bias is reflected in the Fox News channel's motto of "fair and balanced," the panel said.

MacNeil criticized the motto as misleading. "The Fox claim is a con on the public ... The network is blatantly unbalanced," he said, adding that the network has used patriotism to promote the right wing and Bush administration.

Woodruff added that the motto should be unnecessary for any news organization. "Fox is concerned about its news reputation. At CNN, we don't need to use those terms," she said.

While journalists are often accused of having a liberal bias, "most media are owned by Republican conservatives, so there is a healthy balance and tension" within the news operation, Curley said.

Woodruff added that the public often perceives the media of unfairly "piling on" political figures.

"We are like a dog with a bone and won't let go," she said. "It's better for the country if we sit back, take a breath and see what we are doing in a more rational approach."

Curley pointed to the "massive competition" which has intensified the demand to get the story first. The media also struggles with giving depth to many issues, he said.

An audience member said the media has unfairly invaded the personal lives of politicians, driving many people away from public service.

"We're not going to turn the clock back. The tough questions have to be asked of political figures," Woodruff said. Public officials are scrutinized not only by media but by disclosure laws, confirmation hearings and other aspects of the political arena, she said.

But the media also creates a feeding frenzy, MacNeil said. He pointed to the mixture of horror and titillation found in coverage of President Clinton's lying and sexual activity.

"The media enjoyed it like it was the greatest plunge into depravity that ever happened," MacNeil said.

Sen. George McGovern, who was in the audience, asked the panelists about the definition of "patriotism" and the increasing unpopularity of those who spoke out against the Iraq war.

The current national fervor has fueled the national divide, Woodruff said, noting the "deep attacks" felt by Sen. Tom Daschle, D-S.D., when he criticized President Bush heading into the Iraq war.

The panel talked about the emphasis on corporate profits and reaching niche markets, particularly a younger audience.

In his closing remarks, Neuharth said the symposium marked a historic evening.

"I doubt ever before that we have had this many nationally-distinguished journalists on one campus at one time to share their thoughts," he said.

Neuharth said he hoped the building which bears his name will likewise turn out such outstanding journalists in the future.

"I hope and expect, with the new facilities and programs, that more well-trained journalists in both print and broadcast will leave USD," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: South Dakota
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There are so many laugh-out-loud howlers from these pontificating snobs, I don't even know where to begin. Since it's 6:15 am, I won't even bother for now. Just read and enjoy.
1 posted on 09/27/2003 3:17:41 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; Miss Marple; Tamsey; ...
CNN Schadenfreude / Media Shenanigans ping...

You GOTTA read this one!


2 posted on 09/27/2003 3:18:35 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: nutmeg
fox fan ping
3 posted on 09/27/2003 3:18:57 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
Daschle was deeply saddened that Bush" failed so miserably on the diplomatic front" and was saddened that "one life must be lost" because of Bush's failure.

We were outraged at his spin as the French had been all over the world working against us.You bet we thought he was not speaking in our country's best interest and gave aid and comfort to our enemies.

The comment that media giants are owned mostly by conservatives doesn't fly.Non interference is a must they tell me.The reporters are libs and the bias shows.
4 posted on 09/27/2003 3:33:15 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: MEG33; mhking
The comment that media giants are owned mostly by conservatives doesn't fly.Non interference is a must they tell me.The reporters are libs and the bias shows.

No, the comment doesn't fly. I can vouch for it at the network level from personal experience, and so can mhking. The corporate suits try to spike an average of a single story every two to three YEARS (invariably something bad about the company itself), and even then, if they succeed at all, they succeed only at their own news organization. Every other outlet will still happily carry the bad/embarrassing news. (Anyone here really think Time Warner would go out of its way to stop CNN from reporting something that makes Disney look bad? They're archrivals; Time Warner HATES Disney!)

On the other hand, the vast majority of the reporters, producers, editors, etc., are all partisan Democrats, and it affects every story they work on every single day.

There's a reason the conservative Media Research Center puts out 1500-word reports every day listing example after example of direct liberal bias, while the liberal Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting only puts out one press release every three weeks or so.

5 posted on 09/27/2003 3:43:38 AM PDT by Timesink
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To: Timesink
If you can paint your opponent as an extremist and yourself as sweet reason, you have won the debate. So "objectivity" is the high PR ground, and it is natural for journalists to use their PR power to claim it.

The easy way to success being to go along and get along, journalists have adopted a system for avoiding unnecessary contention for the status of "objective journalist." Adherence to this code by journalists means that it is sensible to speak of "journalism" as an entity, an Estatblishment.

It is of the nature of an Establishment that, like the mafia, it "doesn't exist"--but you'd better not cross it! The journalistic Establishment coheres in the following code:

The objectivity of anyone who adheres to the party line that journalists are objective is never challenged by any other member of journalism Establishment.

If a Bernard Goldberg does write a Bias, he does not cease being a journalist--he is an unperson who never was a journalist.


6 posted on 09/27/2003 4:03:37 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The everyday blessings of God are great--they just don't make "good copy.")
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To: Timesink
The AP's Tom Curley is either totally mendacious or a fool, or likely both. His argument that most media is owned by conservatives is a smokescreen behind which liberals have hidden for years, and Curley knows it.

If you want the worst reporting from Iraq, almost invariably with an anti-administration bent, just check the AP.

7 posted on 09/27/2003 4:12:14 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: gaspar
Reuters gets my vote for anti American bias.
8 posted on 09/27/2003 4:17:08 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Timesink
Woodruff added that the motto should be unnecessary for any news organization. "Fox is concerned about its news reputation. At CNN, we don't need to use those terms," she said.

That's right Judy. CNN no longer has a reputation for delivering accurate news. Only the New York Times has a worse reputation these days.

9 posted on 09/27/2003 4:29:32 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a Tagline!)
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...most media are owned by Republican conservatives...

as opposed to true conservatives.

10 posted on 09/27/2003 4:42:29 AM PDT by massadvj
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To: Timesink
Woodruff added that the motto should be unnecessary for any news organization. "Fox is concerned about its news reputation. At CNN, we don't need to use those terms," she said.

Woodruff is full of used food.

CNN is so concerned with their reputation that it ain't funny.

They know they look like sh*t, and that consumers are calling them on it. That's why the bad-mouthing of FNC all the time.

All these folks are upset that any "independent" voice would stray from the "journalistic ideal" that these morons all are hammered with in J-school. And when Fox took the model and turned it on it's ear and people responded, all hell broke loose.

CNN and the others are looking over their shoulders when they walk, now. They know the writing is on the wall.

11 posted on 09/27/2003 4:43:28 AM PDT by mhking (Anyone who disagrees with me is mentally ill and should be shot.)
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To: Timesink
What a freak'in joke. The main stream media (msm) has been so biased for so long that it (a) IS fair and balanced to those people who are in the middle of it every day and (b) becomes the middleground or yardstick used to measure wether or not anything out side of the msm is "fair and objective".

Using that paradigm, anything besides communism appears to be "extreme" right wing. The way they so smugly sit there and state it like gospel makes my blood boil. It evaporates when I hear people who watch that crap agree with them out of ignorance.

12 posted on 09/27/2003 4:49:49 AM PDT by leadpencil1 (Kill your television)
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To: Timesink
Woodruff and her former co-propagandist, Bernard Shaw,are two monuments to the quota system of Affirmative Action!
13 posted on 09/27/2003 4:51:10 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: Timesink
Woodruff and her former co-propagandist, Bernard Shaw,are two monuments to the quota system of Affirmative Action!
14 posted on 09/27/2003 4:51:10 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: Timesink
Good comments bump. The propaganda machine is breaking down. Judy Woodruff reminds me of "weeping Patsy Schroeder". She is clueless.
15 posted on 09/27/2003 4:56:42 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Timesink
And I see that CNN hasn't learned a thing from their ratings plunge.
16 posted on 09/27/2003 5:38:41 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons have pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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<< .... the media also creates [sic] a feeding frenzy, MacNeil said. He pointed to the mixture of horror and titillation found in ... Clinton's lying sexual activity.

"The media enjoyed .... the greatest ["presidential"] plunge into depravity that ever happened," MacNeil said. >>

Glad some enjoyed it.

The other 99.9999% of Americans and of the FRee World's population will spend the next few decades suffering the consequences of that predatory, treasonous, lying, looting, mass-murdering, serial-rapist sack of sh*t having, along with his co-serially-raping gang, for eight long years, so squalidly squatted and bemanured our once most hallowed house.

Those who staff the world's media are recruited exclusively from the detritrous tank that collects the oozings and excretions of the talent pool's intellectually and morally insolvent bottom feeders.

The lowest of the low.
17 posted on 09/27/2003 5:39:38 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: mhking
All these folks are upset that any "independent" voice would stray from the "journalistic ideal" that these morons all are hammered with in J-school. And when Fox took the model and turned it on it's ear and people responded, all hell broke loose.
Journalistic Rules for Ideological Objectivity:
Rule 1: Never allow criticism of the objectivity of a journalist.

Rule 2: Never allow the sacred honorific, "objective journalist," to be applied to anyone of the left or of the right.

Rule 3: Never allow a specific, real existing human to be described as "left."

See also, my #6 . . .

18 posted on 09/27/2003 5:45:39 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The everyday blessings of God are great--they just don't make "good copy.")
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To: mhking
Bingo! Wasn't it CNN's Christine Amanpour, who said that CNN muzzled itself during the Iraq Battle, because of intimidation by FOX News and the Bush Administration. If they didn't care about Fox, why would Amanpour say this?

Yes, Judy Woodruff, a news organization shouldn't have to label itself "fair and balanced", it's a damn shame. Fox has ridden that hoss to the top of the ratings by being "fair and balanced". CNN has sunk, because patriotic Americans know CNN as the Commie News Network or the Clinton News Network. We know America haters when we see them.

Well, of course, almost no one sees them at CNN anymore, because almost no one watches it anymore.

I did flip over and watched a couple minutes of Paula Zahn with Anderson Cooper. They had some General on and asked him if the media was reporting fairly, the Iraq Battle aftermath. The General mealy-mouthed about news being in the eye of the beholder, with that nonsense, I flipped back to Fox, since the commercial was probably over.

19 posted on 09/27/2003 6:17:22 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt
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To: leadpencil1; mhking; massadvj; gaspar; Timesink
MacNeil criticized the motto as misleading. "The Fox claim is a con on the public ... The network is blatantly unbalanced," he said, adding that the network has used patriotism to promote the right wing and Bush administration.

Woodruff added that the motto should be unnecessary for any news organization. "Fox is concerned about its news reputation. At CNN, we don't need to use those terms," she said.

Routine pablum of members of an Establishment (see my #6) pecking at a "pretender" to membership . . . while
While journalists are often accused of having a liberal bias, "most media are owned by Republican conservatives, so there is a healthy balance and tension" within the news operation, Curley said.
. . . denying that the Establishment even exists.

20 posted on 09/27/2003 6:23:53 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The everyday blessings of God are great--they just don't make "good copy.")
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