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Sex-Starved Marriages - Women Struggle to Cope With Spouses' Low Sex Drives
ABC News ^ | 09/26/03 | John Stossel

Posted on 09/26/2003 1:51:14 PM PDT by bedolido

Sept. 26— On your wedding day you assume you'll have a long future together filled with love, intimacy, maybe kids, and of course, sex. Cheryl Wolfe assumed sex would be part of her marriage.

Watch John Stossel's full report on 20/20 this Friday at 10 p.m.

She was mistaken. "Marriage was never consummated … The day we got married there was no sexual relationship at all, no honeymoon night and from that point forward — nothing," Wolfe said.

She isn't alone. Marriage therapists estimate as many as 20 percent of couples are mired in low-sex or no-sex marriages, and surprisingly often it's the men, heterosexual men, who don't want sex. Wolfe ultimately left her husband because he lost sexual interest in her.

Men's Low Sex Drive Rarely Discussed

Lori and Jim Barrett and Suzan and Chris Cummings — two couples who say their marriages are in trouble because they rarely have sex — bravely agreed to talk with 20/20 about it, and then to work with marriage therapist Michele Weiner-Davis to see if they could make things better.

In both cases it's the women who are frustrated that their sexual needs aren't being met by their husbands.

Barrett said, "I feel like we're living like brother and sister, because we don't have sex. I'm like what kind of relationship is this? This is awful."

Jim Barrett's someone people might call a manly guy. He's a motorcycle enthusiast, and a volunteer firefighter. He says sex has simply never been a high priority for him. He and Lori have two children, and they do have sex maybe (10 times a year,) which is too seldom for Lori, but plenty for Jim. He says sex has just never been that important to him.

But it is important to Lori and to Suzan Cummings.

Susan says sex is the "foundation" of a marriage. "It's not sharing the bank account, and the car, and the toilet," she said.

Suzan and Chris Cummings have been married for six years. She has a daughter by a previous marriage and together, she and Chris have a son, Connor. Susan says sex was infrequent before Connor was born and afterward, Chris seemed less and less interested. Now it's been 15 months since they've had sex.

Chris says he doesn't see why sex has to be such a big deal. In fact, he's happy in their marriage without the sex. "From my perspective it's wonderful. I would say that if sex wasn't important for Susan, if she never wanted to have sex again, I think, I would probably be very happy," he said.

The Barretts' and Cummings' problems aren't surprising to Davis, who's been counseling couples for two decades and is author of Sex-Starved Marriage.

"I'm convinced that low desire in men is America's best kept secret," Davis said.

According to Davis, women in low-sex marriages tend to think their situation is unique. "They start to wonder whether they're the only women in the world who are married to guys who aren't following them around the house with a permanent erection," she said.

Lori Barrett said her husband's lack of desire has been tough on her self image. "First it was for me almost like, 'What's wrong with you,' … and then I was like, 'What's wrong with me — he doesn't want me!'"

Davis said it's common for the partner who's not getting their sexual needs met to feel unwanted or unloved. "When this major disconnect happens," Davis said, "intimacy on all levels tends to drop out, and it puts the marriage in a danger zone."

Bedroom Troubles Boil Over

When one partner is unhappy in the bedroom, it often creates tension that spills into other aspects of the marriage.

The Barretts agreed to let 20/20 put a camera in their home, and sure enough, there was a lot of bickering going on.

Jim said he feels like he's walking around the house on eggshells. Lori and Jim both say it's usually Lori who's on Jim's case.

Lori thinks there'd be less tension in their marriage if there were more sexual intimacy in it. She begged Jim to go to a doctor to have his testosterone levels checked and see if his problem is physical. He won't do it.

"Yeah, let's send Jim to the doctor. He's broke," he said. But he doesn't think there's anything wrong with him physically. He thinks it's an issue of trust, and that he can't just be himself.

They're caught in a trap. Lack of sex makes Lori frustrated, and Jim says he's not in the mood for sex because Lori is so critical. If she weren't so critical, Jim says, he might be turned on to his wife.

"Things'd be a lot more relaxed and we'd probably be a lot closer. Yeah. We'd probably have a lot better physical relationship," he said.

Don't Ignore the Problem

There are many factors that can cause low desire in men, say the experts. It might be anger toward a spouse or a physical issue, but all say whatever the cause, the worst thing to do is nothing — especially when sex is a priority for your partner — as it is for Suzan Cummings.

Chris says he loves Suzan but he worries about not being able to please her sexually. He says he always suffered some level of performance anxiety, and it's only gotten worse over time.

He tried Viagra, but it didn't work. Chris hasn't initiated sex with Suzan in about three years and he says it's gotten to the point he's afraid to initiate any physical contact with Suzan.

"At this point," he said, "the kissing and the hugging and the holding, has kind of signified, has come to signify the, desire to go farther."

Chris's fear of having sex with Suzan is pretty ironic since she works as an exotic dancer. She performs at a strip club, where men pay big bucks to watch women strut around in sexual ways. Suzan is one of the star attractions — lots of men come to the club just to see her. At one time Chris was one of them. That's how they met.

Chris says he still finds Suzan sexually attractive but his anxiety dampens his desire for her.

But he hasn't entirely lost his sex drive. He says "it gets satisfied through masturbation."

Chris says he knows his predicament sounds odd. "I realize that obviously I look like a schmuck on TV. It's extremely humiliating to get up and speak publicly about the fact that I'm not good in bed or that I can't satisfy my wife. I'm not proud of it," he said.

Suzan says she used to try reaching out to Chris sexually, but she's given that up. She said it was painful for her to feel rejected by her husband. "I value myself, um my sexuality as a woman. And to have it turned down over and over repeatedly says you have no value as a sexual being. … I need to feel loved. And I feel loved through sexual contact."

Suzan said the practical aspects of their relationship works fine, but overall she feels the relationship is cold and lonely.

Watching them at home with 20/20 cameras, it sure looked that way. There was no physical affection, and barely any interaction between them. It was almost as if they were leading parallel lives. After dinner Chris went downstairs to play video games, while Suzan sat by herself at the computer, surfing the Web.

Suzan said this is what happens night after night. "That's the exciting life of a stripper on her days off," she said.

More importantly, Suzan said she thinks there's a good chance they'll break up if things don't change.

Working It Out

Davis sat down with the Barretts, and Lori quickly revealed how deep her sense of rejections runs.

"Growing up I had a family an extended family that was constantly teasing me about how I looked and it really hurt me a lot, and so when I had my husband … this person I felt loved me, married me, and then did the same thing, rejected me. It's been very, very hard."

For Jim, hearing Lori say she felt unloved, rather than just barking at him, provides a different perspective, says Davis. "That's the catalyst for change, to truly understand what your partner is feeling, to be in their hearts, rather than to sit as so many couples do and point fingers," Davis said.

Davis says it's important for high-desire partners like Lori to understand that some people just have low sex drives and her husband is probably one of them What Jim has to do, she says, is to act sexually toward Lori even at first if he's not in the mood for sex. She says low-desire partners should try to just do it. Use it or lose it.

According to Davis, "The more a person is sexually active, the more it actually stimulates testosterone production, which is one of the primary hormones responsible for sex drive."

In Suzan and Chris's case, that's not so easy, because Chris now is afraid he can't perform. He knows it hurts Suzan. During their session with Davis, Suzan told Chris, "I don't understand how you can you love me, and not be there for me physically. How you could let me feel that way about myself?"

Davis' advice to them is to start touching each other affectionately with the understanding, at first, that they will not have sex. That will take pressure off Chris. Suzan said she'd be happy just to have simple affection, and Chris said he was surprised and relieved to hear that would be enough.

A month later, things were definitely better for Lori and Jim. He had initiated more sexual contact, and she said she made an effort not to nag.

Suzan and Chris were happier too. "First of all we're having sex," Chris said, "Not as much as we'd like, but that's the biggest fundamental change."

They needed another counseling session with Davis before Chris could really relax and feel it was OK to touch Suzan without it leading to intercourse and the fear of failure that gave him.

The couple says their renewed intimacy has brought other benefits.

Suzan said, "You feel good about yourself. When you feel good about yourself you can show love to your partner. You know it might not last forever until you're 90 but it gives you a warm, loving basis to go on, you know you feel loved."

For more information on Michele Weiner-Davis, visit her Web site at www.DivorceBusting.com.


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To: Trust but Verify
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wife and i have been married 32 1/2 yrs..still have sex at least 3 times a week...she gets "hers" at leat 5 or 6 times every time...might be cause we are coonasses or it might be that we still find each other "hot" after all these years.
301 posted on 09/26/2003 5:45:07 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: wardaddy
"I'm not sure hormones have as much to do with this issue as simply that reality bites."

Yep. And the reality is, you ain't going to be happy with each other if it's always "The same old, same old".

I'm still fairly young at 36, but I've learned it takes work from both sides to make a long duration, committed relationship work without boredom becoming a problem, and both sides share the blame when things go wrong.

302 posted on 09/26/2003 5:45:27 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Game on in ten seconds...http://www.fatcityonline.com/Video/fatcityvsdemented.WMV)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Diabetes causes nerve damage.
303 posted on 09/26/2003 5:46:31 PM PDT by mlmr (I need a new, and improved Tag Line.... Freepmail me your suggestions.)
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To: Quix
Marty wakes up at home with a huge hangover. He forces himself to open his eyes, and the first thing he sees is a couple of aspirins and a glass of water on the side table. He sits down and sees his clothing in front of him, all clean and pressed. Marty looks around the room and sees that it is in a perfect order, spotless, clean. So's the rest of the house. He takes the aspirins and notices a note on the table "Honey, breakfast is on the stove, I left early to go shopping. Love you."

So he goes to the kitchen and sure enough there is a hot breakfast and the morning newspaper. His son is also at the table, eating. Marty asks, "Son, what happened last night?"

His son says, "Well, you came home after 3 A.M., drunk and delirious. Broke some furniture, puked in the hallway, and gave yourself a black eye when you stumbled into the door." Confused, Marty asks, "So, why is everything in order and so clean, and breakfast is on
the table waiting for me?"

His son replies, "Oh that! Mom dragged you to the bedroom, and when she tried to take your pants off, you said, "Lady, leave me alone, I'm married'!"
304 posted on 09/26/2003 5:47:20 PM PDT by Afronaut (All Liberals are Evil: R or no R)
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To: cpprfld
I realize that no one is perfect, but it is kinda difficult to get excited about your spouse if she/he weights 300 lbs. and does absolutely nothing to change their appearance.

So you're the guy who ended up with my ex-wife...(just kidding!) Actually, she would spend 20 hours straight sitting around playing Everquest. Turns out she was having an online affair with someone she met through the game. It was pretty humiliating. I'm a big believer in trying to make a marriage work, but it takes two, and she was making no effort whatsoever, not to mention her reneging on that whole 'love, honor, cherish' thing.

305 posted on 09/26/2003 5:48:25 PM PDT by TrappedInLiberalHell (Hillary walks into a bar. Let's hope it leaves a nice bump on her forehead.)
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To: bedolido
When one partner is unhappy in the bedroom, it often creates tension that spills into other aspects of the marriage.

It's true. ABC says so. In fact, if you're not copulating like bunnies daily, there is no point in raising the children, much less honor any other agreement.

306 posted on 09/26/2003 5:48:58 PM PDT by Concentrate (Orgasm is spirituality.)
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To: Interious
When we were younger and thinner, sex was fairly abundant. But we've both gained weight, and I'm convinced that is the primary source of the problem.

Testosterone production, the male sex hormone is really knocked down by any extra body fat.

My doctor convinced me to loose a few pounds and it made a huge difference in my attitude and overall life.

307 posted on 09/26/2003 5:49:24 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (HUSKER NATION)
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To: Darksheare
Again, your previous marital problems dont seem to be related to low male partner sex drive.
I dont see how your bad marriage relates to this topic.
Please bash your ex, and women in general, elsewhere.
I loved my former husband. I could not endure an unnatural married lifestyle.
He exhibited a "normal" and compatible sex drive, prior to our actual marriage.
From 60-0 in 60 seconds.
It took me many years after our divorce to finally understand that he separated love from sex.He could not have sex with the woman he loved.
He had several "girlfriends" after our divorce, and had a "normal" sex life with them.He didnt even like them, so he could enjoy sex with them.
Sadly, he finally married one of the women he "hated", and she eventually murdered him.
I still mourn him.

308 posted on 09/26/2003 5:50:07 PM PDT by sarasmom (Pray for Terri Schiavo.Pray harder.Please!)
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To: ValerieUSA; Quix
"*LOL* sometimes you gotta exchange coupons for backrubs...."

Both of you are right. Back rubs are good "bartering" currency and can be used to make things "spicy" and different.

309 posted on 09/26/2003 5:50:22 PM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Game on in ten seconds...http://www.fatcityonline.com/Video/fatcityvsdemented.WMV)
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To: per loin
Awww. That's wonderful.
310 posted on 09/26/2003 5:50:40 PM PDT by ChemistCat (KTA&LGSTO.)
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To: flying Elvis
And the two couples names are Barrett and Cummings? ROFL

I thought the exact same thing!!
LOL!!!

311 posted on 09/26/2003 5:51:37 PM PDT by CaptBlack
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To: ValerieUSA
that's very sad...I'm sorry.

312 posted on 09/26/2003 5:53:04 PM PDT by wardaddy (The Lizard King it was.....)
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To: bedolido
"I value myself, um my sexuality as a woman. And to have it turned down over and over repeatedly says you have no value as a sexual being. … I need to feel loved. And I feel loved through sexual contact."

Who would want to sleep with a thing like that? Ugh! What man could get a woodie for that? No thanks!

313 posted on 09/26/2003 5:53:52 PM PDT by Concentrate (Orgasm is spirituality.)
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To: Interious
I would venture to guess that non-masturbators are in the minority, for both sexes.

90% of Americans masturbate and the other 10% are liars.

314 posted on 09/26/2003 5:54:15 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk (HUSKER NATION)
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To: bedolido
Ladies. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
Ducking now!
315 posted on 09/26/2003 5:54:33 PM PDT by Tunehead54 (Support Our Troops!)
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To: maui_hawaii
That's just fine, but careful you don't swing too far in the other direction and expect to find someone with no "issues" whatsoever. All people are flawed in one respect or another, and just to make it more challenging, people change over time, and not at the same rate or in the same ways.

Happily married people are prepared to put up with a certain amount of imperfections and "issues"; some larger and some smaller. That's why they're happy.
316 posted on 09/26/2003 5:54:44 PM PDT by wimpycat (Down with Kooks and Kookery!)
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To: sarasmom
Where did I bash women in general?
This is an example from personal experience.
Please go bash men in general elsewhere.
317 posted on 09/26/2003 5:54:58 PM PDT by Darksheare (I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems. I will not _____the Dems. I will not_____the Dems)
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To: Quix
My husband can't stand it that I'm not answering you. :-)

Really, on a scale from one to digging-loved-ones-out-of-rubble, not getting backrubs much isn't very high on my list of worries. :-) He works, goes to school full time, after 24 years of serving his country, and does much of the housework because I can't. He does rub my hands and feet when the neuropathy is bad. I'm not sure when he'd have time to give me backrubs. It was meant to be humor, 'kay?
318 posted on 09/26/2003 5:55:15 PM PDT by ChemistCat (KTA&LGSTO.)
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To: sarasmom; Darksheare
Darksheare has a right to post what he wants, wherever he wants ....

and he is my friend and and he has never bashed me as a woman.

319 posted on 09/26/2003 5:55:19 PM PDT by Neets (Frogs have it easy..they can eat whatever's bugging them.)
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To: sarasmom
I think you're misunderstanding him--the concept of a wife who actually wants more affection than a husband will provide her is obviously very painful to him. On that level, yes, he's on topic.

But he has also made his own bed. Maybe what he's reading here will give him the strength to get out and find a more positive place for himself. He's already moved from "absolutely won't get divorced" to "It's something I'm working on quietly."

I'm sorry for your bad experiences with your late ex. You and I both know it doesn't have to be that way if people will be honest with each other and take responsibility for what they really want out of life.
320 posted on 09/26/2003 5:58:27 PM PDT by ChemistCat (KTA&LGSTO.)
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