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Battlefield Ops: My Weapons Of Choice
Sierra Times ^ | 24 September 2003 | Sheriff Mike Cook

Posted on 09/26/2003 1:38:23 PM PDT by 45Auto

I was approached by a person the other day who asked me if I had such a big dislike for the Colt M-16 issued by the military, what weapons did I like? Well after a quick answer and some reflection I believe I have the answer.

First let me say that when the U. S. Navy sent me into combat on the river patrol boats in Vietnam, they issued me what I consider the greatest military rifle ever made. It was the M-14 in 7.62 MM NATO (.308 Caliber) with four magazines and ammo. This rifle had a selector switch that would cause it to fire full automatic if need be, however it controlled much better in the semi-automatic state. I still believe that this rifle is the best ever. I would like to see a down-sized version in the 5.56 MM (.223 Caliber) also built for the military. They could also put the synthetic stocks on it for keeping the weight down. Then our troops would have a great weapon for combat that would work and keep them alive and well defended.

Now let me say as a Gunners Mate most of my patrol time was setting behind the forward twin 50's. These were the .50 Caliber Browning Machine Guns mounted on the bow of the boat with the old air craft mount used in the bombers from WW II. I just can't say enough about this great weapon. From all the reports we are getting from our current conflict this is still one of the greatest weapons used by our military. Mr. John Browning was indeed a genius of weapons design. His military and civilian weapons are still some of the best ones over 100 years after he built them.

Another weapons system that we had favor for during my time in combat was the M-79 40 MM grenade launchers. They worked very well from our delivery vehicles in the water. We also got a Honeywell belt fed grenade launcher for these rounds after we were in country for some time and they were great. At our top speed we could put a grenade about every 40 feet on the land with them. We made good use of these weapons also.

As our job was to stop and search boats during the daylight hours we were also issued side arms and shotguns. Some had Smith & Wesson model 10's in .38 caliber and some had the 1911A1 .45 caliber semi-automatic sidearm's. I liked the 1911A1's the best. The shotguns were the old military pump action Ithica's in 12 Gauge. They were great shotguns and held up real well.

The other weapon we had on board that everyone liked was the M-60 Machine gun. What a great weapon. We learned that if you put a C-Ration Can on the belt feed side so the belt would feed over the can that this weapon would just keep working and working. It punched out those 7.62 MM NATO rounds with no problem, and was very devastating to the enemy. This weapon could be held like a rifle or fired from a mount and was very versatile for use on the boat. We all agreed it was one of the best we had.

Now I should say that we were also issued three Colt M-16 rifles with each boat. They were there and we used them for warning shots more than anything. They were kept real clean and worked most of the time. We learned that you could only put about 17 or 18 rounds in the 20 round magazines to keep them working good. Most others and I were not impressed with them.

So that kind of gives you a run down of why I still have strong feelings about what we are sending out troops into combat with. I know that some people got upset when I run down the M-16's and they have that right. My opinion is not just mine and is shared by many people today. I feel that our military made a mistake when they were forced into accepting this as the primary weapons system for our troops. Perhaps in the future we can get something that will be much better. Like I said I think the M-14 down sized to handle the .233 round something like the Ruger Mini-14 with a better barrel would be just the ticket.

God Bless America. God Bless our Troops still in Harms Way.


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To: El Gato
Define "successful".

Longest period of (US) military service - the M16 has been "in uniform" longer than any previously issued rifle.

121 posted on 09/29/2003 12:36:51 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: xsrdx
I don't know the exact dates of service but I would guess the 1903 Springfield saw longer service. From around 1903 to somewhere around the late 60's. I have heard they were still being used for precision shooting in VietNam, at least, early on.
122 posted on 09/29/2003 1:00:53 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
the 1903 Springfield saw longer service.

The M16 has been the STANDARD ISSUE SERVICE RIFLE longer than any other rifle.

Certainly, there may be incidents of special purpose rifles remaining in service for long periods - M21 and M1C/D sniper rifles, and the aforementioned '03 perhaps - but no other rifle in US history has served for a longer period as the STANDARD ISSUE INDIVIDUAL RIFLE than the M16 series.

123 posted on 09/29/2003 1:12:00 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: yarddog
Navy Times M16 Article

"According to David Isby, an author and defense analyst, the M16 already is the longest-serving rifle in the Army’s history."

124 posted on 09/29/2003 1:17:32 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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To: xsrdx
That question got me to thinking about what was the longest serving weapon of any type in the U.S. Army?

At first I thought of the 1911, but the 50 cal. has probably beat it now, at least as far as being as you said, being standard issue.

There are probably some 1911's still being used. I think the 50 caliber dates from around 1920.

125 posted on 09/29/2003 1:18:22 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: yarddog
John Moses Brownings M-2 Heavy Machine Gun is the longest serving weapon in the inventory.

L

126 posted on 09/29/2003 1:29:49 PM PDT by Lurker ("To expect the government to save you is to be a bystander in your own fate." Mark Steyn)
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To: yarddog
That question got me to thinking about what was the longest serving weapon of any type in the U.S. Army?

My first guess would be the Browning M2 .50cal, introduced to US military service in 1921 IIRC and still in widespread use.

127 posted on 09/29/2003 1:30:56 PM PDT by xsrdx (Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas)
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