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Muslims in military getting close look by government ^

Posted on 09/26/2003 5:52:12 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

Muslims in military getting close look by government

September 25, 2003

Not since the McCarthy hearings 50 years ago have so many allegations surfaced that America's military may contain enemies of the state.

In 1953, it was communists that Sen. Joe McCarthy saw as infiltrating the Army. Now, a spate of indictments and convictions over the past few years is raising questions in some quarters of Capitol Hill and elsewhere about U.S. troops who are members of the Muslim faith.

Senior Air Force Airman Ahmad al Halabi, an Arabic translator, stands charged with espionage in connection with the U.S. detention of suspected al Qaeda and Taliban fighters at the U.S. Navy facility at Guantanamo Base, Cuba.

Also being held on similar suspicions is Army Capt. James "Yousef" Yee, who served as the Muslim chaplain for the 660 detainees at the base. At least another two servicemen or women are under investigation in the same probe, Pentagon officials say.

In several other cases in the recent past, a Muslim-American Army soldier was charged with killing two U.S. fellow troops in Kuwait, an ex-sergeant confessed to secretly being a member of the terrorist group Islamic Jihad and two current or former reservists were charged in a probe of alleged terrorist cells in Oregon.

Though these represent just a minuscule fraction of the more than 4,000 Muslim troops in the U.S. military - who the Pentagon and even critics say serve honorably - the latest arrests prompted Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., to announce Wednesday that his Judiciary subcommittee on terrorism and domestic security will hold a hearing soon on the potential for militant Islamic groups to recruit U.S. service members.

Several other legislators said they were concerned that, in the rush to sign up more Arabic speakers or soldiers familiar with Muslim culture, the military may have failed to adequately screen them.

And Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., has renewed his call for a Pentagon investigation of the process of selecting chaplains and vetting their background. "I think the Army has been far too lax," he said.

Schumer also raised questions about the Graduate School of Islamic and Social Sciences, a Leesburg, Va., organization that helps train Muslim military chaplains. Last year the group was raided by federal agents who were investigating terrorist financing allegations, but no charges have been brought.

Muslim American organizations are concerned that the thousands of good soldiers who happen to be Muslim will be unfairly scapegoated or tarred by any wrongdoing by a few. They caution, too, that those most recently accused should be judged on the basis of evidence, not assumptions.

"This should not have any bearing on the Muslims within the military who serve with distinction, putting their lives at risk for their country," said Mahdi Bray, executive director of the Muslim American Society. "However, I do expect there will be some who will see this as an opportunity to besmirch and sow seeds of mistrust about the Muslims in our midst."

Ibrahim Hooper of the Council on American-Islamic Relations said any Muslims who engage in sabotage or espionage violate the tenets of their faith.

"Islam does not permit treason, disloyalty or the breaking of oaths," he said.

According to military and court records, members of the Muslim faith aside from al Halabi and Yee who have been implicated in terrorist or related wrongdoing since 2000 include:

- Ali Mohamed, a major in the Egyptian army who immigrated to America in 1986 and joined the U.S. Army while a resident alien. While secretly a member of the militant group Islamic Jihad, he taught classes on Muslim culture to U.S. special forces at Fort Bragg, N.C. He was honorably discharged from the Army, but in 2000 admitted he was an al Qaeda affiliate and pleaded guilty to helping plan the 1998 bombings of two U.S. embassies in East Africa.

- Jeffrey Leon Battle, an African-American Muslim who was indicted in October 2002 for allegedly joining the Army Reserves for military training that he intended to use to kill U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan. Battle was among six others in Portland, Ore., suspected of terrorist ties.

A few months earlier, former Navy reservist Semi Osman, was arrested in a federal probe of the alleged establishment of a terrorist training camp in Bly, Ore. Investigators suspected he might use for nefarious purposes what he learned in a Navy unit that tended fuel trucks similar to those used in suicide truck bombings.

- Army Sgt. Asan Akbar, a convert to Islam who was charged with murder after he rolled grenades into tents at a U.S. military base in Kuwait, and firing at some who fled, a few days after the war in Iraq began. Two GIs were killed and 14 others injured.

Family members and fellow troops said Akbar was enraged at the prospect of U.S. forces killing Muslims in the course of the war in Iraq.

(E-mail Lisa Hoffman at HoffmanL(at) or visit

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Note to military types:

If you are serving under arms in an Islamic country with a Muslim, watch your back.

1 posted on 09/26/2003 5:52:13 AM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: Happy2BMe
Not only your back, but your front,sides and top. The enemy has proven that they will go to any extreme to disrupt and kill non believers.
2 posted on 09/26/2003 5:55:50 AM PDT by mict42
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To: Happy2BMe
Geez....only about 20 years too late. However, for PC's sake, if there is a way our federal government can allow even more access to foreign nationals and terror-connected Arabs, I'm sure they will find it.
3 posted on 09/26/2003 5:55:54 AM PDT by Types_with_Fist
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To: Happy2BMe
If you are serving under arms in an Islamic country with a Muslim, watch your back.

That is exactly what I was thinking when I read the title of this thread. I'd expand that even wider, tho. What a morale buster to have that to worry about.

5 posted on 09/26/2003 5:59:51 AM PDT by CheneyChick
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To: Happy2BMe
It turns out Senator Joe was right....
We let them build their mosques and islamic training centers accross our nation
we give them access to our institutions
they have bought access to our politicians
and their stated goal is to make American an islamic nation...
its called selling your birth right...
6 posted on 09/26/2003 6:02:07 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Happy2BMe
"Islam does not permit treason, disloyalty or the breaking of oaths," he said.

I have a gut feeling that this is a bald face lie, but I don't have a Qur'an available to prove it.
7 posted on 09/26/2003 6:02:50 AM PDT by Noachian
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To: Happy2BMe
If the traitors in Wash D.C. is any gage.....
Add democrats to the list of suspectables....
9 posted on 09/26/2003 6:03:51 AM PDT by hosepipe
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To: mict42; At _War_With_Liberals; MEG33; G.Mason; LiteKeeper; poet; MeeknMing; dennisw; SJackson; ...
Islamic subversion of the United States military ping!
10 posted on 09/26/2003 6:07:13 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: joesnuffy
"We let them build their mosques and islamic training centers accross our nation
we give them access to our institutions
they have bought access to our politicians
and their stated goal is to make American an islamic nation...
its called selling your birth right..."

WND Exclusive

Radical Islam's 'plan'
to take over America

Arab-American author outlines secret
20-year strategy to undermine country

Posted: August 4, 2003
1:00 a.m. Eastern

Editor's note: Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin is an online, subscription intelligence news service from the creator of – a journalist who has been developing sources around the world for the last 25 years.

© 2003

A refugee from the Muslim Middle East thinks he has discovered Islam's 20-point plan for conquering the United States by 2020 – a plan revealed in the latest issue of Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

Anis Shorrosh, author of ''Islam Revealed'' and ''The True Furqan,'' is a Christian Arab-American who emigrated from Arab-controlled Jerusalem in January 1967.

''The following is my analysis of Islamic invasion of America, the agenda of Islamists and visible methods to take over America by the year 2020,'' Shorrosh says. ''Will Americans continue to sleep through this invasion as they did when we were attacked on 9/11?''

1. Terminate America's freedom of speech by replacing it with statewide and nationwide hate-crime bills.

2. Wage a war of words using black leaders like Louis Farrakhan, Rev. Jesse Jackson and other visible religious personalities who promote Islam as the religion of African-Americans while insisting Christianity is for whites only. What they fail to tell African-Americans is that it was Arab Muslims who captured them and sold them as slaves. In fact, the Arabic word for black and slave is the same, ''Abed.''

3. Engage the American public in dialogues, discussions, debates in colleges, universities, public libraries, radio, TV, churches and mosques on the virtues of Islam. Proclaim how it is historically another religion like Judaism and Christianity with the same monotheistic faith.

4. Nominate Muslim sympathizers to political office to bring about favorable legislation toward Islam and support potential sympathizers by block voting.

5. Take control of as much of Hollywood, the press, TV, radio and the Internet as possible by buying the related corporations or a controlling stock.

6. Yield to the fear of the imminent shut-off of the lifeblood of America – black gold. America’s economy depends on oil and 41 percent of it comes from the Middle East.

7. Yell ''foul, out-of-context, personal interpretation, hate crime, Zionist, un- American, inaccurate interpretation of the Quran'' anytime Islam is criticized or the Quran is analyzed in the public arena.

8. Encourage Muslims to penetrate the White House, specifically with Islamists who can articulate a marvelous and peaceful picture of Islam. Acquire government positions and get membership in local school boards. Train Muslims as medical doctors to dominate the medical field, research and pharmaceutical companies. (Ever notice how numerous Muslim doctors in America are, when their countries need them more desperately than America?) Take over the computer industry. Establish Middle Eastern restaurants throughout the U.S. to connect planners of Islamization in a discreet way.

9. Accelerate Islamic demographic growth via:

10. Reading, writing, arithmetic and research through the American educational system, mosques and student centers (now 1,500) should be sprinkled with dislike of Jews, evangelical Christians and democracy. There are currently 300 exclusively Muslim schools in the U.S. which teach loyalty to the Quran, not the U.S. Constitution. In January of 2002, Saudi Arabia’s Embassy in Washington mailed 4,500 packets of the Quran and videos promoting Islam to America's high schools – free of charge. Saudi Arabia would not allow the U.S. to reciprocate.

11. Provide very sizeable monetary Muslim grants to colleges and universities in America to establish ''Centers for Islamic studies'' with Muslim directors to promote Islam in higher-education institutions.

12. Let the entire world know through propaganda, speeches, seminars, local and national media that terrorists have hijacked Islam, when in truth, Islam hijacked the terrorists.

13. Appeal to the historically compassionate and sensitive Americans for sympathy and tolerance towards Muslims in America who are portrayed as mainly immigrants from oppressed countries.

14. Nullify America's sense of security by manipulating the intelligence community with misinformation. Periodically terrorize Americans with reports of impending attacks on bridges, tunnels, water supplies, airports, apartment buildings and malls.

15. Form riots and demonstrations in the prison system demanding Islamic Sharia as the way of life, not America's justice system.

16. Open numerous charities throughout the U.S., but use the funds to support Islamic terrorism with American dollars.

17. Raise interest in Islam on America's campuses by insisting freshman take at least one course on Islam.

18. Unify the numerous Muslim lobbies in Washington, mosques, Islamic student centers, educational organizations, magazines and papers by Internet and an annual convention to coordinate plans, propagate the faith and engender news in the media.

19. Send intimidating messages and messengers to the outspoken individuals who are critical of Islam and seek to eliminate them by hook or crook.

20. Applaud Muslims as loyal citizens of the U.S. by spotlighting their voting record as the highest percentage of all minority and ethic groups in America.

Shorrosh is a member of the Oxford Society of Scholars, has traveled in 76 countries, and is a lecturer and producer of TV documentaries. ''Islam Revealed'' is a bestseller now in its eighth printing. His forthcoming 10th book, from which the 20-point plan is abridged, is titled ''Islam: A Threat or a Challenge.''

''The True Furqan'' is also available for viewing on Shorrosh's new website is

11 posted on 09/26/2003 6:10:44 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Noachian
"I have a gut feeling that this is a bald face lie, but I don't have a Qur'an available to prove it."

The Truth About Islam

Observations by Dr. David R. Reagan


Ever since the Attack on America on September 11, 2001, we have heard a never-ending chorus of voices from government, academia, and the media assuring us that the Islamic terrorists who attacked the Trade Towers and the Pentagon are not repre­sentative of “true Islam.” We have been likewise assured by spiritual leaders — even some Christian spokesmen — that Islam is a religion of peace, and that Muslims worship the same God as Christians and Jews.

“Our war is not against Islam,” we have been told repeatedly. “Our war is against terrorism.”

Central Questions

Well, what about it?

The Intolerant and Militant Nature of Islam

One of the most controversial issues regarding Islam concerns whether or not it is a militant religion. Muslims in the West argue it is peace-loving. Westerners who have experienced it in the Muslim world argue it is inherently in­tolerant and militant.

The Koran itself preaches intolerance toward other religions. Sura 5 contains the following command: “Take not Jews and Christians for friends . . . He among you who takes them for friends is one of them . . . Choose not for friends such of those who received the Scripture before you [Jews and Christians] . .  But keep your duty to Allah” (verses 51, 55, 57). Extreme intolerance is commanded in Sura 5:33 — “[For those who do not submit to Allah] their punishment is . . . execution or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet, from the opposite sides, or exile from the land.”

The Koran also expresses an intolerant attitude toward any person who decides to reject the Islamic faith or convert to another religion. Such persons are to be executed (Sura 9:12). In the Hadith (the oral tradition of Muhammad’s sayings) it says “Whoever changes his religion, kill him” (Hadith 9:57). These commands are practiced in all Islamic Fundamentalist countries today.

With regard to militancy, the Koran not only condones it, it commands it:

Fighting is prescribed for you, and [some of] you dislike it. But it is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and that you love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows, and you know not (Sura 2:16).

Fight and slay the pagans wherever you find them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem of war (Sura 9:5).

Fight in the way of Allah . . . and slay them [the unbelievers] wherever you find them and drive them out . . . and fight them until . . . religion is for Allah (Sura 2:190-193).

Muhammad is quoted in the Hadith as saying, “The sword is the key of heaven and hell. A drop of blood in the cause of Allah — a night spent in arms [war] — is of more avail than two months of fasting and prayer. Whosoever falls in battle, his sins are forgiven, and at the day of judgment, his limbs shall be supplied by the wings of angels and cherubim.”12

The Imperialistic Nature of Islam

From its inception, Islam has been committed to what it calls jihad — a word mean­ing holy war. The duty of Muslims is to subjugate or destroy “infidels” — the term the Koran uses for all non-believers.

In the Muslim viewpoint, the world is divided into two regions — those areas controlled by Islam, called Dar al-Islam (meaning the House of Islam) and those called Dar al-Harb (the House of War). The Koran commands Mus­lims to fight non-Muslims until they exterminate all other religions, leaving Islam as the one and only religion in the world (Suras 2:193 and 8:39). Muhammad is quoted in the Hadith as saying, “I have been ordered to fight with the people until they say, none has the right to be worshiped but Allah” (Hadith 4:196).

Regarding terror, Allah orders Muslims to terrorize non-Muslims on his behalf: “Strike terror (into the hearts of ) the enemies of Allah and your enemies” (Sura 8:60). Allah then assures his followers that he will assist them: “I will instill terror into the hearts of unbelievers. Smite them above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them. It is not you who slay them, it is Allah” (Sura 8:12, 17).

Concerning jihad,14 the Koran guarantees Paradise to those who fight for Allah (Sura 4:74). It promises instant Paradise for those who die in battle (Suras 9:111 and 47:5-6). Dying for Allah is presented as better than living: “And if you are killed or die in the Way of Allah, forgiveness and mercy from Allah are far better than all that others may amass [of worldly wealth]” (Sura 3:157).

Martyrs are promised a sensual and luxurious life in Paradise (Sura 52:17-22). According to Al-Ghazzali, one of Islam’s greatest teachers, when a martyr reaches Paradise, he “will marry 500 companions, 4,000 virgins, and 8,000 divorced women.”15 Commenting on this statement, Randall Price, biblical teacher and Middle East expert, observed that the Islamic Paradise is “just the kind of place that adolescent, unmarried men, isolated through their lives from the opposite sex by rigid cultural standards, would die for.”16

Fundamentalist Goals

The Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran was the modern day Islamic spokesman who revived Muhammad’s vision of world con­quest. He taught that the re-establishment of Israel was a Satanic miracle allowed by Allah because of the lukewarmness of the Muslim masses. He called for a renewal of true Islam to accomplish three purposes:19

  1. To overthrow the “secular” rulers of Islamic countries (like Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, and Egypt), just as he had done in Iran.

  2. To take back the land of Palestine for Allah, exterminating Israel in the process.

  3. To conquer the rest of the world for Allah.

Notice the first priority was the transformation of secular Islamic countries into religious states ruled by the Koran. Then would come Israel and the world.

In a proclamation made by Osama bin Laden in 1998, he listed the same goals and prioritized them in the same order.20 He then identified the United States as the prime obstacle to the achievement of these goals. Accordingly, he called on Muslims everywhere “to comply with Allah’s order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it.”

It is important to note that the eradication of Israel is not the top priority. Nor is Israel viewed as the major obstacle to world conquest. I emphasize this because many Americans are saying that the key to winning the war against terrorism is to dump Israel. More and more, on radio talk shows, I hear people saying, “Let’s cut Israel loose. Let the Arabs have it. Then they will leave us alone.”

That is utter nonsense. Israel is not the cause of Islamic terrorism toward the West. If Israel were to disappear tomorrow, Fundamentalist Islam would still be determined to destroy America as part of its plan to take the world for Allah. And if we were to abandon Israel, the Muslim world would interpret it as an act of cowardice, proving our word is meaningless and that we truly are, as they say, “a depraved society devoid of values.” Our abandonment of Israel would only whet their appetite. Islamic Fundamentalism cannot be appeased. It must be de­feated.

12 posted on 09/26/2003 6:12:20 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: mict42
"The enemy has proven that they will go to any extreme to disrupt and kill non believers."

13 posted on 09/26/2003 6:15:57 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (LIBERTY has arrived in Iraq - Now we can concentrate on HOLLYWEED!)
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To: Noachian
"Islam does not permit treason, disloyalty or the breaking of oaths," he said.

I have a gut feeling that this is a bald face lie, but I don't have a Qur'an available to prove it.

I don't have Qur'an available either, but I read enough on this to know that when they say these sorts of things, they conveniently fail to mention that such laws only apply to other muslims, not infidels.

Just like when they say "Islam does not permit the killing of 'innocents'". It may be true, but we are never included in the ranks of the innocent.

14 posted on 09/26/2003 6:26:36 AM PDT by dinasour
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To: Happy2BMe
It is about time we got rid of all this PC BS.
15 posted on 09/26/2003 6:28:51 AM PDT by Piquaboy
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16 posted on 09/26/2003 6:29:11 AM PDT by lainde
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After reading this, I think it is time to play Cowboys and Muslims for real. I think I may pull the Bennifer trick, at least $5,000 in ammo. Have guns, need more ammo.

.308, M1 carbime, 45 cal, 10 & 12 guage. May have to get at least one more rifle, 270 magnum sounds good.

17 posted on 09/26/2003 6:29:22 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (I am ashamed the dixie chicks are from Texas!)
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To: Happy2BMe
...and not only in our military, but our U.S. government is paying Wahabbi clerics to breed hate-filled terrorists right here in our own U.S. prisons:

Link to government-paid Wahabbi prison chaplains

18 posted on 09/26/2003 6:32:14 AM PDT by KriegerGeist ("The weapons of our warefare are not carnal, but mighty though God for pulling down of strongholds")
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The ignorant bunches who are running this country, and making decision on behalf of all of us appears to be slow learners.

1- We have Moslems plotting to kill us, we have MOST of the Moslems sticking together overtly or covertly, and then we go and hire a Moslem to translate to us? How stupid is that? There are many Christian Arabs who can be used to translate to us, and be trusted not to have allegiance to the Moslem terrorists.

2- Islamists killed 3000 innocent Americans, and we gather these losers in Cuba, and give them an American Moslem clergy to help them pray? If they want to pray, no one stopping them, but we should not pay for an American Moslem soldier to minister to them. In Israel, Arabs are excluded from joining the IDF, in this country, we should exclude Moslems from joining the military, as well as immigrating here.

3- The longer these idiots keep putting their head in the sand, and keep dreaming that there will be a peaceful coexistence with Moslems, the more difficult it is going to be to have normal life in this country. All you need to do is examine all the troubled areas around the world, the common denominator in all these violent movements are 99% of them are Militant hateful Moslems blowing things up. So why in hell do we want to keep importing this type to live amongst us..

19 posted on 09/26/2003 6:33:51 AM PDT by philosofy123
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