Second U.S. Judge Blocks 'Do-Not-Call' List

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[Hotdog]

War of the laws?...whats next?

[Hotdog]

Glad your on our side...I think this might be one of the last straws...

[Hotdog]

"First, shoot all the JUDGES"..

Forgot about that one...right you are!

[njmaugbill]

Does anyone know what the bill was called?

How about fire the unemployable, and kill a billion dollar industry act of 2003?

Bill from Nutley

[Conservative til I die]

So basically the idea of when you want something illegalized is contingent on your personal feelings on the matter.

Wow, that's sure principled.

[Atlas Sneezed]

500 S&W!

[Atlas Sneezed]

What I don't understand is how the states that already had DO NOT CALL were functioning all this time.

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I used to live in a state that expected me to pay THEM protection money to get on their DND list! No way!

[m1-lightning]

You mean to tell me a Judge's word isn't law?

That's right. A judges ruling is an opinion. Judges don't make laws otherwise what's the purpose of a Congress when judges can just bark and we jump.

Can judges make mistakes or even abuse their position?

[bvw]

The sense the founders meant it. Limited. Look at the problems in the Republic prior to the Constitution. Interstate trade wars. Sorry -- but telemarketing is not a trade war.

Somewhere the Commerce Clause lost its tether, and by so doing the fundamental concept of a limited, enumerated federal charter has been lost. OUR rights to deal freely with one another hobbled by the Federal juggernaut -- usurped, stolen.

[Hotdog]

I just realized after reading this thread that there are as many whiny puxxies of the conservative kind as there are of the liberal kind."

Sweet jeebus, just do what I do and get a phone with caller ID and never pick up from anyone calling from an unknown number. Haven't picked up a call from a telemarketer in over a year.


I THINK YOU HAVE EXPLAINED TO EVERYONE WHY YOU DON'T GET TELEMARKETING CALLS...BET YOU MOM DOESN'T EVEN CALL YOU!

[tiamat]

Home and Castle, FRiend! ( and given your tone, that "FRiend" bit is rather doubtful) I have the right to NOT be messed with, unless or until I mess with someone else!

And as for your idea that one should just get a phone with caller ID, that doesn't wash. I find the sound of phone ringing to be jarring and disruptive.

I CHOOSE to not let calls, or persons into my domain unless *I* wish to allow it!

Tia

[Atlas Sneezed]

Just because everyone, most, think it's a good idea, doesn't make it LEGAL.

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How fast do you think a "Do Not Call" amendment to the Constitution would pass?

It would set ALL RECORDS!!!

[Revolting cat!]

It's inconceivable in most countries that strangers would call one on the telephone and attempt to sell some useless service or product. Inconceivable, because people in most countries think they ought to decide for themselves when and where to seek out products and services. How weird of them! They must all be French! Here however, it has become a Constitutional right to sell. Yeah, use all the euphemisms you want, but this is all about the Constitutional right to sell!

As predicted, we have indeed become a nation of people selling things to each other, things that are produced mostly by other nations. Just go to the water cooler in your office and see the signs of idiots selling their daughters' Girl Scout cookies or worse, Mary kay cosmetics. It is pathetic that such an issue would even merit a debate. And that of course is another symptom of America's sickness - debating every little petty thing with no end in sight. While other countries, using nothing more than common sense, ban cell phone gabbing while driving, what do the Americans do? They debate. (And the cell phone companies to surreptitiously feed such debates, count the profits.) The death of common sense, indeed. Rant end.

[Atlas Sneezed]

A company, without this law, has to comply with a slew of many existing laws.

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Try this, genius:

DONT CALL ME!

[m1-lightning]

The interstate trade wars involved taxation between states and that was taken care of with section 9 so why first state it ambuguously in section 8?

[Judith Anne]

What really frosts my cookie is that a four-year old can't say grace in kindergarten without getting a week's detention, but some so and so can interrupt me to try to sell siding, all in the name of "free speech."

Some speech is more free than others, I guess.

[Atlas Sneezed]

this is all about the Constitutional right to sell!

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The right to sell is no greater than the right to YELL!

Set up your shop on YOUR property, and hope the victims come in. No stalking. No assaults, and no auditory burglaries.

[m1-lightning]

Some speech is more free than others, I guess.

Yep, only if it benefits the lobbyists or special interest groups. This judge will probably get a nice under the table raise by some of these companies.

[tiamat]

Judith Anne wrote:

Some speech is more free than others, I guess.

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No kidding!

And I am going to have to make a note of "and what REALLY frosts my cookie is...."

THAT is good!

Tia

[Calpernia]

I know what will work better than the legalities and constitutionality of 'government' being able to regulate industries like this.

Make it illegal for government, companies, etc. from selling our personal information (The Lists). I was under the impression that I owned my information; but, obviously, I either don't or am unaware how to enforce it.

Without lists of people's personal data, this will limit the telemarketers abilities to call. Cause you know what? Even if this is somehow passed, it has no affect on out of country telemarkets.

[Don Carlos]

what's the purpose of a Congress

Umm, to keep fat alcoholics employed?