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California recall: Does one man hold key? [McClintock]
Christian Science Monitor ^ | 9-25 | Christian Science Monitor

Posted on 09/25/2003 2:54:50 PM PDT by ambrose

The Christian Science Monitor - csmonitor.com

from the September 26, 2003 edition - http://www.csmonitor.com/2003/0926/p01s03-uspo.html

California recall: Does one man hold key?

Tom McClintock, top GOP conservative, could tilt race for or against Arnold Schwarzenegger.

By Daniel B. Wood | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

BURBANK, CALIF. - Republican candidate Tom McClintock laughs from deep in the belly when asked if he will be the "spoiler" in the great populist revolution/experiment/circus of California's gubernatorial recall election.

"My opponents say I'm the Ross Perot of this campaign, possibly siphoning off enough votes to hand the election to Democrats," he says, settling onto a shady park bench for an interview. "I say, 'Wait a minute.... Ross Perot was an idle millionaire, with no public-policy experience who one day on a whim entered the presidential race.' That sounds like another candidate in this race ... not me," he says, referring to muscleman/millionaire Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Once a mere asterisk in the con- fused calculus of California's 135-candidate recall election, Mr. McClintock has gradually emerged as the strong, third-place vote getter in polls - rising (at 14-to-18 points) while the two leaders - fellow Republican Schwarzenegger (26 points) and Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante (28 points) - tread water.

As the race enters its final stretch, McClintock's motives and acts are becoming paramount for two reasons. One, splitting the Republican vote, he could cost the party its best chance in a decade of high, statewide office. Two, his candidacy could drag down the success of the recall itself by forcing Republican partisans to reconsider driving Gov. Gray Davis from office because of fear that they could hand the office to a more liberal Democrat, Mr. Bustamante.

Ever since McClintock leaped from 4 percent voter support to double-digits about three weeks ago, the pressure has risen for him to stop offering himself as an alternative to Arnold Schwarzen-egger that could hand the election to Democrats. But as more voters get to know him, his poll numbers have continued to rise, while Schwarzenegger's are flat.

More conservative than Schwarzenegger on social issues - abortion, gay marriage, gun control - he is also far more experienced in fiscal matters, with California's sagging economy the No. 1 issue.

"He is by far the most studied and experienced of all the candidates in fiscal issues and how to implement public policy," says Jack Pitney, political scientist at Claremont McKenna College. "If the election were a college SAT test, McClintock would be the next governor hands down."

Even though he is widely acknowledged as the more knowledgeable, the more articulate, and the more detailed idea-man, 25-year government veteran McClintock does not have the millions of dollars of his chief Republican rival, nor his name recognition. Therein lies one of the chief ironies of the recall: Does he/should he/will he step aside to allow the neophyte challenger - and the Republican party - to gain its best chance of victory?

"He is a man who stands on his word and his principles while claiming time and again that he is in this to the last," says Doug Jeffe, a longtime California political consultant. "If he did get out, it would be totally uncharacteristic of him."

Now, with Schwarzenegger and Bustamante in a near dead heat, one leading Republican, Darrell Issa, the millionaire who bankrolled the signature gathering to oust Davis, has said that if Schwarzenegger or McClintock don't back off, Republicans should vote "no" on the recall. Polls show that if Arnold backed out, McClintock could not win.

But McClintock rejects a widespread analysis that conservative candidates have brought Republican fortunes to their low ebb. He feels the current crisis is the perfect storm for their historic comeback.

"Great parties are built on great principles," says McClintock, referring to the pillars of conservative policy: holding down taxes, cutting waste, standing up for the unborn, and resisting government approval of gay unions. "This is not a time to change our principles."

While such comments win kudos from some for adherence to principle, they strike others as bullheaded.

"McClintock's constant megaphoning of conservative social agendas is presenting a real problem for Republicans who really like him for his fiscal experience," says William Schneider, a pollster and political analyst. "They know Tom has the smarts to get this state out of economic problems and they worry about Arnold's lack of experience and specificity. But they don't think Tom can win and can't resist the fact that Arnold could."

As a child, McClintock campaigned for Barry Goldwater at age 8. In high school he organized classmates into a statewide GOP group. A political-science graduate of UCLA, he became a syndicated columnist railing about former Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown, lauding the character of John Wayne. Hired by a former L.A. police chief-cum-state senator (Ed Davis), McClintock began a 25-year career in Sacramento, marked by opposition to Republican governors George Deukmejian and Pete Wilson over tax hikes and spending waste.

Despite his conservative stances, he was the top GOP vote-getter in the state, running for controller, in the 2002 election.

"I got very little from the state GOP and was outspent by my opponent by 5 to 1," says McClintock. "Despite all that, I lost by less than 1 percent of the vote."

A man who often quotes Reagan and Shakespeare, McClintock is considered a legislative loner with few legislative friends for his near two-decade pursuit of shrinking the state payroll.

In his favorite stump speech he tells why cutting is so important. As a child, he came home from school to find his mother crying over an unexpectedly high tax bill. The moment has lived in his imagination ever since that government takes too much from citizens and delivers too little.

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To: Spiff
Keep your name-calling to yourself...

Whether you approve of Arnold's moderate stances or not, he is a good yank to the right compared to Bustabudget and Davis. Some of us are out to actually try to help California and our country, not looking for a new pastor. If your only response to that strategy are insults and calling folks here nasty names, then you can't actually have much of a valid argument against it.
61 posted on 09/25/2003 3:41:32 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: Tamsey
If you heard him on Roger Hedgecock's show, you would know for sure that his opinion of Republicans other than "true" conservatives is not much!

What I took away from the Interview on Hedgecock by McC -- if you don't think like McC, then you are totally wrong. He came right out and said he only supports people he agrees with 100%! Bet he didn't vote for Bush in 2000 since I am sure he doesn't agree with him 100%!
62 posted on 09/25/2003 3:42:29 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
I'll start by telling everybody that they're stupid

I don't recall Tom ever saying that. Are you projecting?

I could see how it would be assumed people are saying that (R)nold Groupies, you are right.

63 posted on 09/25/2003 3:42:34 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (That's pre-election bogus, Arnold Schwarzenegger.)
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To: ambrose
And I have yet to see you on a recall thread where you haven't made a venomous personal attack on a fellow Freeper for simply having the temerity of supporting the only pro-life candidate in this race. Amazing.

Excuse me? I'm supporting Mcclintock. As far as I know, he's the only pro-life candidate.

64 posted on 09/25/2003 3:43:07 PM PDT by massadvj
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To: habs4ever
You don't understand California politics. McClintock occupies a safe State Senate seat and is popular in his district (won 58%-42% in 2000 - reapportioned district is even more conservative). Take care of Canadian (or is it Canadien???) politics before you opine about ours.
65 posted on 09/25/2003 3:44:24 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: Tamsey
Oh, you mean like AS's last minute entry into the race, even when he said he was not running? Can you honestly say that Arnold isn't bought and paid for by the Kennedys? Or do you live in some alternate universe where the Kennedy's are not corrupt gangsters? I still say AS was asked "Nicely" by the Kennedy clan to enter the race to split the Republican vote. Although I have never considered Liberal Republicans as anything more then Dims who have infiltrated the Party.
66 posted on 09/25/2003 3:44:37 PM PDT by JustAnAmerican
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To: massadvj
"I remember when it was a conservative site with no apparent affiliation with Republicanism. Now it's just a megaphone for the Republican party and their lackeys who think politics is some sort of game, and resort to name-calling when they can't think of principled, cogent retorts. "

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Ever heard the saying "It's better to light a candle, than curse the darkness".

Some of us prefer to light candles, be part of the solution, instead of just screaming in the darkness, but refusing to do anything about it, because you can't get everything instantenously.

As they also say: "lead, follow, or get out of the way".
67 posted on 09/25/2003 3:44:40 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: ambrose
Arnold's campaign is not even close to Perot! What a dumb thing to say. I was in Texas when Perot ran and know all about little big ears! You see I haven't spent my whole adult life living in one place. Perot didn't have a bunch of advisors surrounding him to give advice. Only person Perot wanted advice from was himself. There is no more arrogant person than Ross Perot who helped make Texas Education really bad!

That comment just shows how little you know about either campaign. I cannot believe anyone would compare the two.

The spoiler in this campaign is McC not Arnold so the campaign that is like Perot isn't Arnold.



68 posted on 09/25/2003 3:45:17 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: PhiKapMom

Sometimes I think it would be easier just to find some of that Kool-aid for us so we can stop banging our heads against the wall... it just looks so much easier to be blindly self-righteous than to try to live in the real world.
69 posted on 09/25/2003 3:45:24 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: massadvj
That post was directed to your friend BibChr
70 posted on 09/25/2003 3:45:39 PM PDT by ambrose (Free Tommy Chong!)
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To: CatoRenasci
Davis was everybody's friend - as long as you had the cash.
71 posted on 09/25/2003 3:45:46 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: JustAnAmerican
Anold is worth $200M, money which HE earned and made. He doesn't need the Kennedy's money.

Don't you think, that if the Kennedy's had a real influence on him, he would have registered Democrat, don't you think they pressured him plenty?

Your blind hatred of Arnold is showing.

72 posted on 09/25/2003 3:46:57 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Oh believe me - it comes through loud and clear.
73 posted on 09/25/2003 3:47:06 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (Buddy Rydell from "Anger Management" is my new role model)
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To: NittanyLion
According to you, then Republicans will never win elections because you have to support a candidate 100% of not at all!

Thanks to people like that, then no wonder Pres Bush almost lost to Gore since a lot of people didn't agree with him 100% so they didn't vote for him if you use McC's rationale!

You cannot compare personal responsibility and how you live your life with voting in an election when you vote for the candidate that can win which is why you get into politics!


74 posted on 09/25/2003 3:48:04 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: massadvj
I remember when it was a conservative site with no apparent affiliation with Republicanism. Now it's just a megaphone for the Republican party and their lackeys who think politics is some sort of game, and resort to name-calling when they can't think of principled, cogent retorts.

In other words, "The Republican Underground"... Sigh...

75 posted on 09/25/2003 3:48:12 PM PDT by ambrose (Free Tommy Chong!)
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To: PhiKapMom
I'm just enjoying your use of the word "arrogance". Apparently anyone who isn't afraid to defend their principles is labeled as arrogant; it's moral relativism at its finest.
76 posted on 09/25/2003 3:52:27 PM PDT by NittanyLion (Go Tom Go!)
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To: JustAnAmerican
Oh, you mean like AS's last minute entry into the race, even when he said he was not running? Can you honestly say that Arnold isn't bought and paid for by the Kennedys?

Arnold entered the race when it became clear that the Dems were going to rally behind only one significant candidate.

And YES!!!! I can honestly say that Arnold isn't bought and paid for by the Kennedy's!!! It is Bush and the WHITE HOUSE that is quietly working behind the scenes for Arnold... John Cogan is Arnold's top fiscal advisor and it helping him with his proposed budget. Jeb Bush quietly sent some of his best people to California to help on Arnold's campaign. The Clintons are DESPERATE to keep California under DNC control and the GOP is struggling to make sure they don't.

It would be awfully nice for Tom and supporters to take that into account themselves.

77 posted on 09/25/2003 3:53:18 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: ambrose
Ever since McClintock leaped from 4 percent voter support to double-digits about three weeks ago, the pressure has risen for him to stop offering himself as an alternative to Arnold Schwarzen-egger that could hand the election to Democrats. But as more voters get to know him, his poll numbers have continued to rise, while Schwarzenegger's are flat.

But he still remains DOUBLE DIGITS BEHIND!

In what fantasy world does that equate to a win?

78 posted on 09/25/2003 3:54:35 PM PDT by South40 (Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante)
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To: ambrose
In other words, "The Republican Underground"... Sigh...

Yes. Remember when we actually supported conservative policy such as the Contract With America? Now we're selling Ahnold Schwartzwhatever... and all of dose tings... and all of dose tings...

We're embracing socialism at the federal level for no more reason than it has a Republican brand on it.

The truth is, the country club Republicans love socialism. Socialist regulation of the economy creates barriers to entry for interlopers who want to become wealthy, while rewarding size and market share by imposing new economies of scale for businesses to deal with. Ahnold is their guy all the way.

79 posted on 09/25/2003 3:55:39 PM PDT by massadvj
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To: FairOpinion
"Your blind hatred of Arnold is showing.

Your Blind support for a Liberal is/has been showing for quite some time now. And please stop with your assinine comparisons of AS with Ronald Reagan, try reading your own quotes sometime. Ronald Reagan would except 75 percent of what he wanted to get the ball rolling, AS is only 10 percent or less of a conservative.

80 posted on 09/25/2003 3:56:16 PM PDT by JustAnAmerican
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