California recall: Does one man hold key? [McClintock]

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[Tamzee]

Keep your name-calling to yourself...

Whether you approve of Arnold's moderate stances or not, he is a good yank to the right compared to Bustabudget and Davis. Some of us are out to actually try to help California and our country, not looking for a new pastor. If your only response to that strategy are insults and calling folks here nasty names, then you can't actually have much of a valid argument against it.

[PhiKapMom]

If you heard him on Roger Hedgecock's show, you would know for sure that his opinion of Republicans other than "true" conservatives is not much!

What I took away from the Interview on Hedgecock by McC -- if you don't think like McC, then you are totally wrong. He came right out and said he only supports people he agrees with 100%! Bet he didn't vote for Bush in 2000 since I am sure he doesn't agree with him 100%!

[PeoplesRep_of_LA]

I'll start by telling everybody that they're stupid

I don't recall Tom ever saying that. Are you projecting?

I could see how it would be assumed people are saying that (R)nold Groupies, you are right.

[massadvj]

And I have yet to see you on a recall thread where you haven't made a venomous personal attack on a fellow Freeper for simply having the temerity of supporting the only pro-life candidate in this race. Amazing.

Excuse me? I'm supporting Mcclintock. As far as I know, he's the only pro-life candidate.

[capitan_refugio]

You don't understand California politics. McClintock occupies a safe State Senate seat and is popular in his district (won 58%-42% in 2000 - reapportioned district is even more conservative). Take care of Canadian (or is it Canadien???) politics before you opine about ours.

[JustAnAmerican]

Oh, you mean like AS's last minute entry into the race, even when he said he was not running? Can you honestly say that Arnold isn't bought and paid for by the Kennedys? Or do you live in some alternate universe where the Kennedy's are not corrupt gangsters? I still say AS was asked "Nicely" by the Kennedy clan to enter the race to split the Republican vote. Although I have never considered Liberal Republicans as anything more then Dims who have infiltrated the Party.

[FairOpinion]

"I remember when it was a conservative site with no apparent affiliation with Republicanism. Now it's just a megaphone for the Republican party and their lackeys who think politics is some sort of game, and resort to name-calling when they can't think of principled, cogent retorts. "

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Ever heard the saying "It's better to light a candle, than curse the darkness".

Some of us prefer to light candles, be part of the solution, instead of just screaming in the darkness, but refusing to do anything about it, because you can't get everything instantenously.

As they also say: "lead, follow, or get out of the way".

[PhiKapMom]

Arnold's campaign is not even close to Perot! What a dumb thing to say. I was in Texas when Perot ran and know all about little big ears! You see I haven't spent my whole adult life living in one place. Perot didn't have a bunch of advisors surrounding him to give advice. Only person Perot wanted advice from was himself. There is no more arrogant person than Ross Perot who helped make Texas Education really bad!

That comment just shows how little you know about either campaign. I cannot believe anyone would compare the two.

The spoiler in this campaign is McC not Arnold so the campaign that is like Perot isn't Arnold.

[Tamzee]

Sometimes I think it would be easier just to find some of that Kool-aid for us so we can stop banging our heads against the wall... it just looks so much easier to be blindly self-righteous than to try to live in the real world.

[ambrose]

That post was directed to your friend BibChr

[capitan_refugio]

Davis was everybody's friend - as long as you had the cash.

[FairOpinion]

Anold is worth $200M, money which HE earned and made. He doesn't need the Kennedy's money.

Don't you think, that if the Kennedy's had a real influence on him, he would have registered Democrat, don't you think they pressured him plenty?

Your blind hatred of Arnold is showing.

[Chancellor Palpatine]

Oh believe me - it comes through loud and clear.

[PhiKapMom]

According to you, then Republicans will never win elections because you have to support a candidate 100% of not at all!

Thanks to people like that, then no wonder Pres Bush almost lost to Gore since a lot of people didn't agree with him 100% so they didn't vote for him if you use McC's rationale!

You cannot compare personal responsibility and how you live your life with voting in an election when you vote for the candidate that can win which is why you get into politics!

[ambrose]

I remember when it was a conservative site with no apparent affiliation with Republicanism. Now it's just a megaphone for the Republican party and their lackeys who think politics is some sort of game, and resort to name-calling when they can't think of principled, cogent retorts.

In other words, "The Republican Underground"... Sigh...

[NittanyLion]

I'm just enjoying your use of the word "arrogance". Apparently anyone who isn't afraid to defend their principles is labeled as arrogant; it's moral relativism at its finest.

[Tamzee]

Oh, you mean like AS's last minute entry into the race, even when he said he was not running? Can you honestly say that Arnold isn't bought and paid for by the Kennedys?

Arnold entered the race when it became clear that the Dems were going to rally behind only one significant candidate.

And YES!!!! I can honestly say that Arnold isn't bought and paid for by the Kennedy's!!! It is Bush and the WHITE HOUSE that is quietly working behind the scenes for Arnold... John Cogan is Arnold's top fiscal advisor and it helping him with his proposed budget. Jeb Bush quietly sent some of his best people to California to help on Arnold's campaign. The Clintons are DESPERATE to keep California under DNC control and the GOP is struggling to make sure they don't.

It would be awfully nice for Tom and supporters to take that into account themselves.

[South40]

Ever since McClintock leaped from 4 percent voter support to double-digits about three weeks ago, the pressure has risen for him to stop offering himself as an alternative to Arnold Schwarzen-egger that could hand the election to Democrats. But as more voters get to know him, his poll numbers have continued to rise, while Schwarzenegger's are flat.

But he still remains DOUBLE DIGITS BEHIND!

In what fantasy world does that equate to a win?

[massadvj]

In other words, "The Republican Underground"... Sigh...

Yes. Remember when we actually supported conservative policy such as the Contract With America? Now we're selling Ahnold Schwartzwhatever... and all of dose tings... and all of dose tings...

We're embracing socialism at the federal level for no more reason than it has a Republican brand on it.

The truth is, the country club Republicans love socialism. Socialist regulation of the economy creates barriers to entry for interlopers who want to become wealthy, while rewarding size and market share by imposing new economies of scale for businesses to deal with. Ahnold is their guy all the way.

[JustAnAmerican]

"Your blind hatred of Arnold is showing.

Your Blind support for a Liberal is/has been showing for quite some time now. And please stop with your assinine comparisons of AS with Ronald Reagan, try reading your own quotes sometime. Ronald Reagan would except 75 percent of what he wanted to get the ball rolling, AS is only 10 percent or less of a conservative.