History Repeated? (Cavuto)

FOX News ^ | 09/24/03 | Neil Cavuto

[abnegation]

He never succeeded at winning over his critics. Some called him bombastic, others a war-monger.

He warned about terrorism, but few listened.

He warned about a foreign ogre, but few seemed to care.

He talked of not confronting the enemy and about the dangers of kowtowing to the enemy. An enemy that would sooner rip out your heart than let you even think he had one of his own.

[iceskater]

Thanks for the ping.

Hope your puppy is doing better.

[Republican Red]

On another thread from the Washington Times:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/988979/posts

The commentary by Doug Saunders of Toronto's Globe and Mail began in a fashion familiar to readers and viewers of the Western news media:

"Six months before, the world had cheered as the statues of the dictator came crashing down. The Americans had seemed heroic. But now things were going very badly. The occupation was chaotic, the American soldiers were hated and they were facing threats from the surviving supporters of the dictator, whose whereabouts were uncertain.

"Washington seemed unwilling to pay the enormous bill for reconstruction, and the president didn't appear to have any kind of workable plan to manage the transition to democracy. European allies, distrustful of the arrogant American outlook, were wary of cooperating."

Doug Saunders was writing not of Iraq in September, 2003. He was writing about Germany in November 1945. His article provided something rare in the news media today: perspective.

[Cincinatus]

Actually, the Tories lost the general election of 1945, leading to Clement Attlee's ascension as PM. Churchill kept his seat in Parliament and re-assumed the PM after the general election of 1951.

Churchill's defeat was largely unrelated to his war policy -- it was his advocacy of a grim, wartime domestic austerity policy that did him in. Cavuto's analogy is actually even more apt than I think even he realizes.

[Hostage]

Yes I have but there is no parallel here. I saw the advent of FNC in 1996. It has steadily grown adsorbing market share.

Here in the liberal Democrat fiefdom of Seattle, I actually see people talking about what they saw on FNC, or better, presenting the "other side" of the debate. When I say waking up, I mean they are aware that the NY news establishment attempts to "spin" their daily thought process.

People here are not abandoning the War on Terror, ergo President Bush. They don't like any of the Democrat contenders and I have even witnessed people acknowledge they were duped by Clinton during his reign. I am talking about the average mind controlled robots that Liberal Democrats feed off here in Seattle. There's a stirring up of a new awareness.

Some people that are hardcore liberals are pissed that they are losing their "social fashionability". Oh they still enjoy the mindset that Republicans are air-polluting Baptist fascists, but they (the liberals) are losing their favored status.

The local media here is losing their influence. For example, they tried to pump the Latte Tax, serving in effect as paid advertisements for the tax. Although I expected them to do so, I was still surprised at how low and uninformed they think viewers are. They have been losing credibility for several years now.

These are anecdotes for sure but I'll take them, they are more frequent and IMO that is a dramatic significant development.

The Democrat message is wrong and lacks momentum. Truly their chickens are coming home to roost.

That's why I sommented on Cavuto this morning. He must be so immersed in NYC cafe talk as to believe the propaganda that Bush is spiraling down.

IMO Bush is on the ascent. It is only a matter of time that his foreign policy opponents rethink their positions and get on his bus. And when the NYC crowd try to forge a "Bush vs. the World" contest, who are they refrreig to as "the World"? Is it France-Germany-Belgium-Russia-Kofo Annan? Well the reality is that the President has narrowed that "World" to France-Belgium-Annan and Annan better be thinking how he will continue his life style after his UN paycheck stops coming.

Bush will not only win the foreign poliicy debate, he will emerge as a true world leader because he is unwavering, and he is bottomline right.

Bush will also benefit from technological innovation in the energy industry. His administration will oversee a transformation to a hydrogen economy. No, this is not blue sky BS, it's real this time. Do some google searches on automotive fuel cells, General Motors, Honda, Chevron-Texaco, Dutch Shell. Propane-Hydrogen Fuel Cells are the fallout from the electric car debacle experiments, it is their discovery that will take a grip in the next three years and then extend to transforming the energy infrastucture. Put it this way, those unleaded gas stations will all add a fuel cell pump, either sepcial formulations of NG or Propane. Unleaded gas will start to take a backseat like the leaded gas of the past. And that's not all, take a look at low emission power plants for industrial energy production, and portable residential fuel cell energy production.

Bottomline is that the economy and foreign policy under President Bush is going to rock.

Cavuto needs to get his big round babyface out of his ass, get out of the Big Apple and see what is going on elsewhere. He shouldn't rely on the merry-go-round of one journalist telling another journalist an opinion and yet another journalist calling its news or at least "public sentiment".

[Kaslin]

The last picture is broken . Here it is

[putupon]

Thanks, that one definitely belongs

[Redbob]

"I've not been able to post due to a puppy with a broken leg,..."

That must be some weird ISP you've got there.

[camas]

not really. WW2 started in the Saar when the french retreated as the germans marched in. most wars start with one battle.

[lawgirl]

I love Cavuto! he's smart and down to earth and CUTE! ;)

[abnegation]

She had "external hardware". That meant following her around 24/7 to make sure she didn't catch it on anything. When she slept, I had to work (yes I work). Work comes before play if I want to eat.

[alpowolf]

By that logic, most wars are the same as WW2.

[Consort]

Yes I have but there is no parallel here.

The next election will tell us a lot about "the people". It's the voters.

[StriperSniper]

Like I said: It's the voters, stupid.

Yup, but maybe it should read, "It's the stupid voters."

[Consort]

Yes (I was trying to be diplomatic).

[Hostage]

Are you trying to make a profound statement? I mean my dog probbly could have figured that one out.

Why should we care what Cavuto tells us about what New Yorkers think? New Yorkers elected HRC, or at least the unions there were did a bangup job on stuffing ballot boxes. Any state that would do that are controlled by people without conscience. Cavuto is acting as their mouthpiece.

[Consort]

Are you trying to make a profound statement? I mean my dog probbly could have figured that one out.

That's the way it is, so start paying more attention to what your dog, Probbly, says. And Cavuto is smart and articulate and he makes more sense than many of the other pundits combimed.

[manna]

We'll have to agree to disagree about the Cavuto article. Have a nice day.

[manna]

How would our position improve by doing as you suggest? In real terms, not just a feel-good reaction.

That's a serious question. I'm not being sarcastic.

[Hostage]

You can pay attention to my dog since you both appear to be mentally matched.

I like Cavuto but in his daily chore of generating something informative and valuable, his comparison of Bush-Churchill is a dud.

Cavuto is not perfect. If he reads these forums, he can learn something.

[Kaslin]

You are welcome. I just copied the URL and pasted it in the address bar of a new window. Then came up with the Google image search and just clicked on the picture that was displayed. The result was the picture