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Debate Terminates Arnold
SEPT 24 2003 | tomasUSMC

Posted on 09/24/2003 8:55:31 PM PDT by TomasUSMC

Tom wins Recall Debate. Camejo a close number 2. Bustamonte way back in third. Arnold and Ariana locked in death wrestling match dead last.

Tom crushed the competition today, well everyone except for the green party guy who kept repeating something that for some reason no one could counter - that the rich in California pay a lower tax rate than the rest. Humm. Some of the knockout hammer slaps issued by Tom where, for example, the ONLY statement opposing Illegal immigration- " .. we have millions willing to abide by our immigration laws but, Illegal Immigration is tantamount to cutting in line. Another crushing blow by Tom was:" People are taking their families and companies from beautiful California to the middle of the desert because of the Davis administration. Wow. He was the only one who even pronouned the words Pro Life, all the others where silent, except for Bustamonte who stated he was pro-choice. And then putting the last nail in Arnolds coffin, Tom stated in his closing remarks: He was the only one to pledge - No tax increase and also to cut spending.

Arnold showed complete disrespect to the debate process. Constantly interrupting Bustamonte and Arianna and engaging in Personal attacks on both of them. (Clearly Arianna attacked him personally also.) Arianna stated it well, "Ok Arnold, lets see which person with a foreign accent can speak loudest." If he thinks he'll be able to shout down all of them in Sacramento, he's nuts. During one of the Arnold/huffington skirmishes, Adriana told Arnold that is much ballyhood Help the Children Program that Arnold helped pass was nothing but a publicity stunt because it was not funded. Arnold then cut his own throat by replying that the bill had a spending trigger that would only activate once the budget woes were taken care of. Well, that means that his precious little bill will never get a cent! If he felt so strongly about the chlildren he would not have supported that spending trigger.

Its clear all the media is for Arnold. He was the only one given time after the debate on all the channels to explain how he felt after the debate. And Arnold may have realized he had not done well when he said that he hoped to work with Tom in Sacramento. That's if Tom will have him.


TOPICS: Political Humor/Cartoons; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: bustamante; california; debate; mcclintock; recall; schwarzenegger
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To: TomasUSMC
I think arnold gets it...more democrats will be willing to vote for him...there aren't that many reopublicans to out number the democrats. More independants will be willing to vote for arnold. He sounded likle he knew what he was talking about and didn't sound silly.
21 posted on 09/24/2003 9:07:58 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: TomasUSMC
I thought Arnold looked sophmoric and "lite", too bad people here not only are voting for Arnold to win but ACUALLY LIKE him and his posistions, That is mindblowing.
22 posted on 09/24/2003 9:08:12 PM PDT by Afronaut (Vote for me now. I’ll let you know what I believe later)
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To: TomasUSMC
McClintock certainly did a superb job.........but to imply that the drooling socialist from the Green Party took second.................................good God in Heaven.
23 posted on 09/24/2003 9:08:19 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: autoresponder
Dig it! All the networks are Arnold this and Arnold that. Did you see moonbeam on msnbc? Vein's bulging in his neck as he insisted that the only chance the democraps had was to challenge Arnie to a series of one on one debates, mano y mano! I about fell out of my chair laughing!
24 posted on 09/24/2003 9:08:22 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: TomasUSMC
GoGov.com Poll
Who won the California Recall Debate for Governor?
Cruz Bustamante (122) 18%
Arianna Huffington (25) 4%
Tom McClintock (186) 28%
Arnold Schwarzenegger (270) 40%
Peter Camejo (67) 10%

Total Votes: 670


25 posted on 09/24/2003 9:08:59 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: vbmoneyspender
Arnold gained NOTHING by going after Arianna. If anything, he wants her to be more viable so she can siphon off votes from Cruz..
26 posted on 09/24/2003 9:09:22 PM PDT by ambrose (Free Tommy Chong!)
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To: Afronaut
Alright dude, your mind is blown, can you leave it to us now and quit trying to cause division?
27 posted on 09/24/2003 9:09:25 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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To: Williams
I share your concerns. I'd be happier if only one had ended up running. Someone with Arnold's charisma and upbeat enthusiasm, the ability to make people like him who are politically opposed to him ... and with Tom's conservatism.

I can dream, can't I?
28 posted on 09/24/2003 9:09:34 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: TomasUSMC
Can you send me a quart of whatever you've been drinking Tomas?
29 posted on 09/24/2003 9:09:43 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: ambrose
Nope. Arnold won on style, Tom won on substance.

Agreed. Tom was FANTASTIC though. I sure hope he becomes your new Senator, knocking off Boxer in '06.

30 posted on 09/24/2003 9:09:46 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: ambrose
Arnold won on style, Tom won on substance.

I agree with that.

31 posted on 09/24/2003 9:11:25 PM PDT by Oliver Boliver Butt
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To: isthisnickcool
So, how much money are you willing to bet that Mcclintock wins? Anyone?

Does anyone get the feeling that maybe, just maybe the race will be between McClintock and Arnold, with Bustamante in third? After all, Arnold grabs from the left, middle and right, Tom's supporters are rock-solid supporters for the most part, and many of Bustamante's can't even read English, so good luck finding his name among 130 candidates... Anyone?

32 posted on 09/24/2003 9:12:33 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: vbmoneyspender
I wish Schwarzenegger would have defended Bush when Huffington was blaming our problems on Bush (btw, I thought McClintock should have made some comment in defense of Bush as well).

My gosh, you're so right. I didn't think of that, largely because what they DID counterattack with was pretty good as far as it went.

I suppose they know that the polls in CA have Bush's popularity at only 49% or so. But ya know what? It won't take 49%, even, to win this recall (assuming that Davis is dumped on part one of that issue).

Good call.
33 posted on 09/24/2003 9:12:33 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: TomasUSMC
Brave vanity post. Substantive as well.

Arnold's supporters won't like it.

34 posted on 09/24/2003 9:14:21 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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To: TomasUSMC
I can tell you who didn't win.... Arianna Huffington. What a skanky troll.

Oh, and BustaMEChA, who sat there like a speed bump. His presence was confirmation of his status as a loser.

35 posted on 09/24/2003 9:14:24 PM PDT by Duramaximus (Tom McClintock - Unlike Arnold, Tom Really Is A Conservative!)
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To: TomasUSMC
McClintock is great but he can't even win a poll on FR. So how do you think he'll do in Commiefornia?
36 posted on 09/24/2003 9:15:43 PM PDT by StockAyatollah
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To: NYC Republican
< Tom was FANTASTIC though. I sure hope he becomes your new Senator, knocking off Boxer in '06. >

He won't have a snowball's chance in hell if he doesn't back out and cruz wins. The Republican Party should fry him for it.
37 posted on 09/24/2003 9:19:29 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance seem to have the least for my views.)
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To: TomasUSMC
Debate Terminates Arnold - Title

Tom wins Recall Debate. - Openning sentence.

Why not make the title 'Tom wins Recall Debate'?

You are never going to win if you have to invoke the other guys name to gain some interest.

Or is this just flame bait?

I don't live in Cali so I have no influence on the outcome.
38 posted on 09/24/2003 9:19:42 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: TomasUSMC
Freaky eyes! Does the man never blink? He's on Hannity and Colmes now and it doesn't sound like he understands that he or Arnold must drop out to prevent a split in R votes. He's not dropping out and doesn't believe any poll showing him behind anyone. I've never listened to him, but this interview doesn't impress me one bit.
39 posted on 09/24/2003 9:20:30 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn
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To: TomasUSMC
Arnold crushed all, states and nations will line up to do business with CA after Arnold wins, McClintock will work with Governor Arnold after the election. You are insane to think McClintock will not withdraw; he could have burried Arnold tonight but he held back.... why do you think he held back??? Why??? Why??? Because he is in it to confuse the Democrats and the foolish, as well as secure a Senate seat. DUH, you are as dumn as Tucker on CNN.
40 posted on 09/24/2003 9:20:30 PM PDT by Porterville (I spell stuff wrong sometimes, get over yourself, you're not that great.)
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