Johnson had JFK Killed: new book

John Gibson Show ^ | 9/22/03 | Ed in NJ

[Ed_in_NJ]

Sorry to be so short on facts, but a new book ("Blood Money") charges LBJ with ordering the JFK hit.

The author is the former business partner of the man he accuses of setting it up (??? Clark), and claims there is no doubt in his mind as to the truth of the allegation.

Apparently LBJ was about to be indicted on another murder charge, and saw his ascendency to POTUS as his way out.

[O Neill]

Correct terminology must be used. 'Odd pull' is not correct.

Thanks for your gentle reminder that my understanding of Arlen Specter's Special Theory of Magic Bulletivity is not all it should be to contribute much here to the existing body of Carcano knowledge.

However, I hope to conduct some chain-yanking experiments this Fall which hold much promise of adding substantially to the clarity and vigor of humanity's state-of-the-art concepts regarding the Odd-Pull Phenomenon....

I also hope to perfect a new pasta dish called 'Fettucine Oswaldo', in which the 'Odd Pull' technique would prove helpful in drawing the succulent, slippery strands into the mouth...

[blackie]

My brother told that to me yesterday during a phone conversation. :)

[Ed_in_NJ]

Thanks.

[Shooter 2.5]

Since you're the one that inserted "an odd trigger pull" into the thread, all I did was ask a simple question.

If you can't explain it, perhaps you should refrain from repeating it.

Most of us here would like to see facts and not urban legends.

[Shooter 2.5]

Well, my son did say the Marines can't shoot like they used to. That's a shame.

It looks like all that spray and pray auto fire has taken it's toll.

[Cooter]

"The Critic" is still aired late-nights on Comedy Central.

[demlosers]

FYI, I don't know oneway or the other if there was an assassination conspiracy, but I do keep an open mind on the subject.

[tpaine]

Correct terminology must be used.
'Odd pull' is not correct.
-tpaine-


Thanks for your gentle reminder that my understanding of Arlen Specter's Special Theory of Magic Bulletivity is not all it should be to contribute much here to the existing body of Carcano knowledge.
-O Niell-

As we can see, not only have you been chastised severely for using "odd" terminology, but at #116, posted by Ichneumon, the case has been closed..

No further mentions of magic bullets will be allowed, as they cannot be accounted for in the case closed mind..

You must obey...

[Ichneumon]

No further mentions of magic bullets will be allowed, as they cannot be accounted for in the case closed mind..

You are invited to explain what you imagine would have to have been "magic" about shot #2. Note: If you're wise, you won't use the terms "pristine" or "right-angle turn", as both are incredibly easy to debunk and will only make you look foolishly unaware of the facts you're attempting to opine about. Go for it.

[tpaine]

No further mentions of magic bullets will be allowed, as they cannot be accounted for in the case closed mind..

You are invited to explain what you imagine would have to have been "magic" about shot #2.

Post your evidence that shot #2 was the bullet that went through JFK & Connelly, then was found at Parkland.. - Virtually undamaged. -- Go for it.

Note: If you're wise, you won't use the terms "pristine" or "right-angle turn", as both are incredibly easy to debunk and will only make you look foolishly unaware of the facts you're attempting to opine about.

Your dogmatic bit about the terms "pristine" or "right-angle turn" only make you look foolish..

Go for it.

Your turn.

[F.J. Mitchell]

I'll have to see that before I'll believe it.

[Tares]

Back at you: http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/content.htm

[Shooter 2.5]

Here we go again.

Do you notice there aren't any twist, turns, bends, right angles and loop the loops to that shot?

[Leatherneck_MT]

One of the biggest problems that we faced as a Corps of Marines was a gradual degradation of Civilian proficiencies with Firearms. Prior to and during WWII most young americans that joined the Army or Marine Corps grew up with rifles in their hands. They knew how to shoot and were comfortable with weapons. Since that time the raw material we have had to work with has gotten worse and worse. That being said I will still put any Marine Marksman up against ANY other Military Man in the world and our Marine will outshoot him 3 to 1.

We still teach proper marksmanship in the Corps and our boys do learn it and learn it well.

[The KG9 Kid]

"... But the Powers that be (not sure who) wants us to believe that this marginal shooter took a notoriously inaccurate bolt action rifle and performed an assassination with world class precision in under 6.8 seconds at a moving target from 6 floors above his victim."

Stop quoting gobbledygook lifted directly from Oliver Stone's 'JFK'.

It wasn't a difficult shot, Oswald was a competent shooter, the Mannlicher-Carcano is a better than average rifle with a powerful flat-shooting cartridge, and the time was longer than 6.8 seconds.

[Shooter 2.5]

Let's try that again.

Hit a head and shoulders target at 88 yards or less.
Reload, fire, reload, fire in 8.4 seconds.
Miss two out of three times.

[tpaine]

Can you post convincing evidence that shot #2 was the bullet that went through JFK & Connelly, then was found at Parkland.. - Virtually undamaged?

The Warren Commission could not, and the Oswald as lone gunman theory fell apart.

[The KG9 Kid]

I believe that Oswald did have help in an earlier attempted assasination of a US Army general with his same rifle after reading that story on another site, so I believe that it's possible he had some sort of assistance in Dallas.

Oswald was the man who killed President Kennedy in Dallas that day, though.

[tpaine]

Oswald was the man who killed President Kennedy in Dallas that day, though.
-KG9-

It's very possible that Oswald was the man who killed President Kennedy in Dallas that day, with assistance.