PROTEST THE ILLEGAL ALIENS FREEDOM RIDE IN RENO THE 24 OF SEPT.

RENO GAZETTE-JOURNAL ^ | 9/20/2003 | Emma Sepulveda

[B4Ranch]

Back in the 1960s, events such as the civil rights freedom ride changed the course of history in the U.S. Now, in 2003, it will be a new, but not so different freedom ride that will hopefully change history once again. The new effort, the Immigrants' Freedom Ride, is taking place for the rights of immigrants in this country. And although, for some people, the two rides may appear to be about two different issues, the essence of the dream is the same.

[B4Ranch]

We will be meeting at 8:00 am THIS WED at INS 1352 Corporate Boulevard Reno, Nevada to protest illegal aliens Freedom Ride who will arrive there , bring your signs and AND TELL YOUR FRIENDS.

I have no problem that someone should have a different viewpoint than mine. However, when this person wants to use STATE PROPERTY to further to further an illegal act, that's when the problems do arise. State property should not be used as gathering places for the Encouragement and Harboring Illegal Aliens. The University of Nevada in Reno, Nevada is STATE PROPERTY Please Email UNR Provost Dr. John Frederick he is violating our laws by aiding and abetting illegal aliens on state owned property Emailjhf@unr.edu

Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)

Encouraging and Harboring Illegal Aliens

It is a violation of law for any person to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection in any place, including any building or means of transportation, any alien who is in the United States in violation of law. HARBORING MEANS ANY CONDUCT THAT TENDS TO SUBSTANTIALLY FACILITATE AN ALIEN TO REMAIN IN THE U.S. ILLEGALLY. The sheltering need not be clandestine, and harboring covers aliens arrested outdoors, as well as in a building. This provision includes harboring an alien who entered the U.S. legally but has since lost his legal status.

[gubamyster]

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[.cnI redruM]

Cool, show up and start attempting citizen's arrests....

[NewRomeTacitus]

"They need to be reunited with their families."

Absolutely. In their home country.

Professor Sepulvada ("Hispanic" Studies?) conveniently forgot to mention that the previous generations of immigrants didn't sneak in.

[ForGod'sSake]

Old news, but the numbers have probably only gotten worse; from CNN no less!! No dinstinction here of legal vs illegal, but FWIW:

Open arms, outstretched hands

Immigrants get more benefits than U.S. natives, study shows

March 7, 1996
Web posted at: 2:15 p.m. EST

From Correspondent Don Knapp

SAN FRANCISCO, California (CNN) -- As immigration-reform proposals work their way through Congress, one issue under debate is the cost of welfare, Medicare and other government benefits that legal immigrants receive.

A new Census Bureau study shows immigrants are more likely to receive assistance -- and for a longer period -- than native- born Americans. The two groups receiving the most aid were immigrants from the Dominican Republic and Vietnam.[Bet that's changed!]

Disproportionate share of benefits

The nation's immigrant population is at its highest level since World War II: 23 million people from other countries; 8 million in California alone.

Immigration researcher George Borjas of Harvard University expects that "in the near future, the welfare problem in California really will be predominantly an immigrant problem."

While California's immigrants comprise 21 percent of the state's total population, they receive almost 40 percent of the welfare benefits, Borjas says.

Nationwide, his figures show immigrants are 8 percent of the population and receive 14 percent of the benefits.

Defenders: Immigrants contribute

But such numbers are misleading, argues Anita Friedman who works with Russian emigres at San Francisco's Jewish Family and Children's Center.

Immigrants are dependent during their initial years in the United States, but after that their household incomes usually equal or exceed those of native-born Americans, she says. (127K AIFF sound or 127K WAV sound)

"Welfare for a strong man is no good," agrees Russian immigrant Yakov Schwartz. (82K AIFF sound or 82K WAV sound)

In testimony before Congress, immigration-policy critic Norman Matloff charged that social workers encourage immigrants, especially elderly Chinese, to apply for benefits. Among the Chinese immigrants who came to California in the 1980s, 55 percent were on welfare in 1990, he told CNN.

Matloff believes many Chinese Americans bring their parents to the United States so the government will take care of them. But Zhi Yun Hou, an elderly Chinese immigrant now living in California, denies that. She acknowledges getting government assistance, but says she came to the United States to be with her family.

The migration experience helps reunite families, according to Fernando Cheung of the Oakland Chinese Community Council. (93K AIFF sound or 93K WAV sound)

Immigration critics say word is out around the world: there's free money in the United States.

But advocates say focusing the debate on economics loses sight of immigration's social, cultural and humanitarian goals.

So, just what are the "goals" these advocates speak of???

FGS

[B4Ranch]

I called our local Border Patrol and they were not aware of the event. Just possibly, I know it's 1 in 40 million, they may do sopmething corrective.

[B4Ranch]

We will be meeting at 8:00 am THIS WED at INS 1352 Corporate Boulevard Reno, Nevada

Change the time to 9:00 Am. Corporate blvd. is just off East Macarren and Mill= going south, right onto Mill (west) to first street left (south) . You can see the building from East Mccarren.

[Klickitat]

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[JustPiper]

Bump to you and Kansas City!!

[JustPiper]

Hey #1, how about we start this then? Contact PETA/ELF and tell them about the hazard to the environment the illegals are creating. Then first we call INS, then DHS, then city,coount,state police, and on down the line until we do see if ANYONE in our government will deport them?! Then call the media and let them know the situation, our President does not want his numbers to go down any further and the press will have a field day with all that ruckus!

[4Freedom]

Bring your video cameras with you. Take a lot of pictures. Especially of the illegal aliens.

[Spiff]

Bring your video cameras with you. Take a lot of pictures. Especially of the illegal aliens.

This is an excellent FReep opportunity. Here's what we need:

• We need a FReeper or two to show up at each of the starting locations. Covertly obtain a description of the bus to include license plate, charter company, etc. The gathered information needs to be posted here on FR.
• We need to go to the websites and search the web to look for more places that these illegals plan to stop on their way and post that information here on FR.
• Then we need FReepers to use that information to start calling local, state, and federal authorities to make reports of these illegals and those who are harboring them. All along the way Border Patrol and other law enforcement agencies need to be contacted and the crimes reported along with the location and heading of the bus.
• Action or inaction on the part of law enforcement agencies needs to be posted here as it happens.

The goal is to pressure law enforcement into stopping the bus, detaining the criminals, and Border Patrol coming in an deporting the illegal aliens. The precedent should not be allowed to be set that illegal aliens can brazenly declare their illegal status and have any hope of getting away with it. The message needs to be sent out that illegal means illegal and that if you're found out you will be deported. I know that it isn't always the case, but in this high profile situation these illegals and their enablers need to be made examples and have the book thrown at them.

[Spiff]

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[4.1O dana super trac pak]

COUNTER PROTEST LINK:http://www.millionamericanmarch.com/Welcomingcommittees.htm

[steplock]

Need someone to give a heads up when those ILLEGALS leave Dallas on their way up I-30 through Arkansas. Maybe we can at least force a delay? so they don't make Memphis on time?

Has anyone heard if they are planning crossing paths with the bus gang of illegals coming in along I-40 from OK arriving Little Rock, Ark 5 pm 27 Sep??

[B4Ranch]

What, no reply YET?

[B4Ranch]

gubamyster, Would you hit your ping list please?

Well, to say the least it was an interesting morning. I got over there about 9:45 and there was just half a dozen anti-immigration folks standing around with maybe another 30 pro-immigration/amnesty or so waiting for the buses to arrive.

About 10:00am, two large Greyhound type buses arrived. Probably carrying 100 people. They parked a few hundred feet away. Everyone unloaded and formed a wide column in the street. As they marched towards us, they were chanting repeatedly "We will fight. Damn right!"

One of the laughs I got was a few of the pro-amnesty group were carrying signs saying, "WE DEMAND RESPECT FROM THE RENO BCIS". So I went over and asked a couple of BCIS Investigative Officers where that came from. Had the BCIS in Reno been treating illegals disrespectfully? The officer said, "Of course not. The sign just makes it look like we have been". Another man in civilian clothes figured they were just trying to make friends with the BCIS by carrying those signs. LOL

I did a few interviews with the local Spanish radio stations, one of the TV stations, and a couple of journalists. Thankfully, I kept my manners and didn't cuss.

The three points I stressed were, #1 that if the interviewers or I had a diabetic attack and went to ICU, the bill would be $100,000.00 to $250,000.00 saying that the bill would be for them and their family to pay. An illegal on the other hand could just walk away and the citizens of Nevada would be liable for the bill. #2 If you sneak into the US illegally and work here for 10 years illegally, sending 50% of your paycheck back to Mexico, then in my opinion you are still a criminal and you are not fully contributing to America by paying your taxes. #3 Criminals do not deserve amnesty no matter how long they have avoided the law enforcement system.

Americans spend 99% of their salaries in their home states. That is what keeps America alive. How can you support two countries at the same time while demanding only one provide you with benefits? I think I got my points across, however we all know what a little smooth editing can do. It will be interesting to see if I have become a racist or just an angry American who doesn't want to support criminals.

There was a bit of yelling between the two groups but thankfully no throwing of water bottles or foul language. One man from the buses was upset because my poster was pictures of Hispanic wanted criminals from the on-line LAPD website. He didn;t think it was fait that I just selected Hispanics. Well, if we were protesting something the Muslims did I would have just selected their pictures. Easy enough to comprehend?

No local politicians were there for the event! I wonder why?

When the buses were being loaded, a young Mexican American from the pro-amnesty group, I presume, came over and started handing out bottles of water to our group.

I feel we got our point across just by being there. The absence of violence and foul language certainly helped our cause, i.e., respectful American citizens protesting peacefully.

[gubamyster]

See update from B4Ranch at post #19