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To: SteveH
You should check it out before only going by a flag on my page. I could have also put up a CA flag, TX flag, OH flag, NH flag, MA flag (never), FL flag! Take your pick -- my home is now in Oklahoma but being transferred around has given me an insight into a lot of places. Still own property in two of them -- TX and CA and my Mom still lives in OH.

Worked to help elect Republicans in the 80's in CA, still have a good number of friends involved in politics out there, and was just in CA in December for two weeks for my daughter's wedding in San Diego. You picked on the wrong person to label by a flag. I live in Norman, OK, right now but that is because they closed Kelly AFB in San Antonio! When we left CA, Norton AFB looked to be on the block for closure which it was eventually.

Lived all over this Country and have to admit that I never met anyone like the McC supporters I have seen on here with their spin and lies. Trying to discuss something rationale with you folks is turning out to be a waste of time.

BTW, have a nice day! I concede defeat because common sense doesn't work!

205 posted on 09/22/2003 11:00:09 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Alpha Omnicron Pi Mom too! -- Visit http://www.georgewbush.com!)
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To: PhiKapMom
I don't get a sense that you are willing to give McClintock supporters the break you give yourself. It's all situational, I hear. Hey, sorry about what happened in OK. I have never lived there so I think anything I could write on it without a heck of a lot of studying would not do justice to the predicament you describe.

I don't know how long ago you lived in Calif. but things do drift-- slowly but surely. You seem to harbor resentment about principled conservatives in California, apparently for what you believe principled conservatives to be responsible for in Oklahoma.

It's different. Simon demonstrated in 2002 that we could take California if we had the right candidate with the right message. Unfortunately Simon was the wrong candidate (too inexperienced) with the right message. Even then, he got very close.

A big problem with Arnold is inexperience. Why don't Arnold supporters, especially out of state Arnold supporters, see that? He is vulnerable in so many ways. The election is by no means in the bag, even if every single McClintock supporter voted for Arnold as of this moment.

Principle means you can't build skyscrapers on quicksand. Arnold seems willing to say just about anything to hold his lead. He's starting to break up politically. He did this himself by choosing to chase the elusive left wing vote. In doing so, he is alienating an increasing number of his original base.

I've seen a lot of posts from you and a lot of generalisms. Feel free to start talking specifics (specifics to California, that is). If you say you can do it because you once lived in Calif. or have rental prop. in Calif., let's see you do it.

I don't critique your position simply because you are out of state. But I might pick on your position because you are out of state and out of touch, with the emphasis on out of touch.

I won't expect much of an answer, so you have a nice day too.

222 posted on 09/22/2003 11:45:56 AM PDT by SteveH ((Californians for, like, you know, Moon Unit!!!))
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