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I don't get a sense that you are willing to give McClintock supporters the break you give yourself. It's all situational, I hear. Hey, sorry about what happened in OK. I have never lived there so I think anything I could write on it without a heck of a lot of studying would not do justice to the predicament you describe.

I don't know how long ago you lived in Calif. but things do drift-- slowly but surely. You seem to harbor resentment about principled conservatives in California, apparently for what you believe principled conservatives to be responsible for in Oklahoma.

A big problem with Arnold is inexperience. Why don't Arnold supporters, especially out of state Arnold supporters, see that? He is vulnerable in so many ways. The election is by no means in the bag, even if every single McClintock supporter voted for Arnold as of this moment.

Principle means you can't build skyscrapers on quicksand. Arnold seems willing to say just about anything to hold his lead. He's starting to break up politically. He did this himself by choosing to chase the elusive left wing vote. In doing so, he is alienating an increasing number of his original base.

I've seen a lot of posts from you and a lot of generalisms. Feel free to start talking specifics (specifics to California, that is). If you say you can do it because you once lived in Calif. or have rental prop. in Calif., let's see you do it.

I don't critique your position simply because you are out of state. But I might pick on your position because you are out of state and out of touch, with the emphasis on out of touch.

I won't expect much of an answer, so you have a nice day too.

It's different. Simon demonstrated in 2002 that we could take California if we had the right candidate with the right message. Unfortunately Simon was the wrong candidate (too inexperienced) with the right message. Even then, he got very close.

Al Gore has a better chance of winning the 2000 election via court fiat right now than Tom has of winning the governor's seat in two weeks. Ignore the calls of baby steps, of whatever Arnold's positions are, and whatnot. If Davis defeats the recall or if Bustamante wins, that's it. Shows over. There will never be another Republican governor of the state of California.

Doomsday fertilizer? Perhaps. When Simon was campaigning and a boat load of us Republicans held our noses and voted for him, we did it under protest. We listened to the anti-RINO camp and we gave to Simon's campaign, even putting bumper stickers on our car. What did we get? Davis, the most hated governor in the history of polling.

It is going to be legal for immigrant criminals to get driver's licenses using a form that has a simple check off for registering to vote. It is now illegal to fire a cross-dresser. Virtually every civil benefit of marriage is now available to gays. Explicit sex-education is going to be in our classrooms. The state finances are bankrupt. Worker's compensation insurance is 50% higher. Republicans are moving out of the state in droves, and if this election goes poorly, many more will follow before 2006 comes around.

We've tried it with the social conservative, and LOST. We've lost on each and every supposed goal of a social conservative. We've lost on each and every goal of a fiscal conservative. We've lost on any measure of any form of conservative viewpoint because we followed the call of the conservative cause and voted for Simon.

Our state is a hell hole because we didn't get rid of Davis ten months ago, and I think it's only fair to demand that social conservatives hold THEIR collective noses and vote for Arnold. We tried it your way ten months ago, LOST, and have kept losing ever since. Toss Tom up on the shelf and VOTE REPUBLICAN, and vote for a winner...