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Clinton undermines Bush gang over Iraq (Note: Aljazeera. Their title)
aljazeera ^ | 09/22/03 | Staff Writer

Posted on 09/22/2003 7:05:45 AM PDT by bedolido

Former US President Bill Clinton said America should not dominate Iraq and should instead grant the United Nations a greater role in restoring security in the war-torn country.

His outspoken views will cause fury among the Bush Administration which wants to maintain overall control of the occupied country.

“We should play a role and spend a lot of money there, but we shouldn't dominate,” Clinton said during a brief visit to the United Arab Emirates, Reuters reported.

“What we need is for the UN to nominally supervise the security situation and NATO to be used as an instrument,” he said during a question-and-answer session at the American University of Dubai, where he launched a scholarship programme.

“This will enable us to spread both the responsibility and the risks and make it look less like an occupation," he added.

US resolution

The US is currently trying to push through a UN resolution to get help in Iraq.

US troops, under daily attack by resistance fighters, are demoralised and increasingly prone to making mistakes such as the so-called “friendly-fire” incident in Fallujah last week which claimed the lives of 10 Iraqi policemen.

Both France and Germany have argued that a US-written draft resolution does not cede enough control to the United Nations.

Clinton also focused on the Palestinian question, urging Israel to be prepared to make major concessions if it wanted peace. He said they must be prepared to give up Palestinian territories occupied since the 1967 war.

“Israel ought to be prepared to give up the West Bank and East Jerusalem. International forces should be invited to enforce agreements and see through a transitional period,” Clinton said.

Agencies


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: armchairpresidents; bush; clinton; iraq; undermines; x42
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"Israel ought to be prepared to give up the West Bank and East Jerusalem"

Bill Clinton

1 posted on 09/22/2003 7:05:46 AM PDT by bedolido
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To: bedolido
Clinton sure made America a safer place to live.

If you're a mortician, vote Democrat.

Your business will really pick up.

2 posted on 09/22/2003 7:12:07 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
He's the one person who could travel over there without bodyguards......
3 posted on 09/22/2003 7:16:02 AM PDT by longfellow (www.ROCKSOUPSTUDIOS.com)
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To: bedolido
US troops, under daily attack by resistance fighters, are demoralised
Sounds like they cribbed notes from The New York Times.

The only purpose to be served by those militarily pitiful attacks is to provide a basis for stories like this, in sympathetic Arab and American journalistic reports. Americans should understand that this is not war, but political assassination. And that American Quislings and fifth-columnists are a chief cause of these murders, there being no practical military objective in view.


4 posted on 09/22/2003 7:23:20 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The everyday blessings of God are great--they just don't make "good copy.")
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To: longfellow
He's the one person who could travel over there without bodyguards......

For a while, perhaps. That is, until he did something with one of the local women that required an "honor killing."

5 posted on 09/22/2003 7:25:59 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (South-south-west, south, south-east, east....)
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To: bedolido
Why can't this lowlife idiot keep his mouth shut
6 posted on 09/22/2003 7:28:14 AM PDT by solo gringo (Always Ranting Always Rite)
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To: bedolido
This is a good reason to be glad that a dumblecrat was NOT in office on 9-11. We would still be waiting for a response from the UN.

The dumblecrats can't wait to trash the US Constitution and make us subservient to that socialistic body...just another third rate country.

Its sickening and disgusting. Far too many don't seem to have a problem with it or see the dangers of the "one world" crowd of which the Clintoons are a major part.

7 posted on 09/22/2003 7:41:30 AM PDT by Adder
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To: bedolido
“What we need is for the UN to nominally supervise the security situation and NATO to be used as an instrument"

What we need is for the disgraced impeached rapist treasonous former POTUS to shut his piehole and encase himself in Little Rock as the first living, although slightly bent, presidential library exhibit.

8 posted on 09/22/2003 8:59:27 AM PDT by ntnychik
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To: solo gringo
>>Why can't this lowlife idiot keep his mouth shut<<

Ugh! He'll never stop. He just cannot resist butting his big ugly head into everyone's face--yakking away about his budget 'surplus' --which was derived solely from social security payroll taxes. (if I understood what I read about it correctly)

Further he sold out the American working people to NAFTA and China Trade, reportedly enriching himself in the process. And I'll never forget how he publicly vilified and ridiculed American workers for opposing NAFTA, just before it was ratified. He was clearly heavily invested in getting the agreement passed, and he is a liar when he claims to have created a prosperity that George Bush has squandered away. Bill wasn't around long enough to suffer the consequences of his policies, and he knows damn well that anyone who followed him into the Presidency would have presided over what we experience now.

And he has no pride--if I had committed perjury as the U.S. President, I'd want to hide away in humiliation for life-- (not to mention the other sleazy stuff he did).

I wish he'd go away--
9 posted on 09/22/2003 9:29:47 AM PDT by Risa
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To: bedolido
This post got me thinking about something that I saw here on FR.

A FREEPER had posted a list of Clinton quotes indicting Saddam and Iraq. They were quotes that, if you showed them to an "outraged" liberal and removed Bubba's name, they would probably think that they were quotes from GWB.

The quotes were part of the Replies, not part of the original post. They seemed to be a retort to the post (which I think was some PAP about this is only GWB's war, he has made it all up, Iraq wasn't a threat, yada, yada, yada). The quotes from Clinton contradicted everything that the stupid article was saying.

Anyone have a link to this post or a list of the Clinton quotes?

10 posted on 09/22/2003 9:48:23 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: mattdono
Nevermind...actually was just browsing Boortz and he had the list. He said that he has verified (or most of) them. I am going to try to verify some more... posting for reference:

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face." Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998.

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of Mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Senator Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do." Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002,

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002.

"[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..." Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

11 posted on 09/22/2003 10:52:08 AM PDT by mattdono
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Dear Lord let me live long enough to piss on Clinton's grave.
12 posted on 09/22/2003 10:58:51 AM PDT by hang 'em (Por Cruz PutaGrande, nada)
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To: mattdono
mattdono: THANK YOU!

Would you please forward this list to the Washington Times, Rush, Hannity, and other good guys.

Great exposure to the bull shit that is ozzing out of all these RATS mouths!
13 posted on 09/22/2003 11:08:27 AM PDT by aShepard
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To: aShepard
Thanks, but I know that this has been working its way around the Internet. I am in the process of sourcing all of these comments. Admittedly, some of the references have the quoted comment and then the source goes on to argue against the action in Iraq. I suppose some of the sources that I have found could be used "against" GWB, but each of these sources conceded facts, then comes the spin.

And that is what's weird. All of these figures (Gore, Levin, Graham...the Bush Bashers) concede that Saddam had WMDs. Then, they go on to argue that 1) it isn't a big deal or 2) we should let the UN handle it. This is just spin, in order to not let GWB have a win. So, it seems that they all knew/know Saddam had WMDs, but the only person that was/is willing to do something about it is George Bush.

So, what's better: to know something and talk about it more, or to know something and do something to protect the country (even if it means a bloody war)?

Again, the hollowness of the liberals shines through.

I think that I am going to package up an nice/clean, little HTML file to attach to an email and send to everyone I know. The comments by Sen. Kennedy (paraphrasing: this is a fraudalent war dreamt up in Texas) are over the line. We need to start spreading the word and backing it up.

If anyone wants the HTML when I am done, please FRMail me with an email addie that can accept attachments.

14 posted on 09/22/2003 12:30:46 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: aShepard
Here are the quotes with as many links-to-source as I can find...

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998. (Additional Sources: CNN, WashingtonPost.com, BBC, and The White House, Office of the Press Secretary).

"Now, let's imagine the future. What if he [Saddam] fails to comply and we fail to act or we take some ambiguous third route which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction? Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And someday, some way, I guarantee you, he will use the arsenal." President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998. Meet the Press

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998. (Additional Sources: CNN, WashingtonPost.com, and The White House, Office of the Press Secretary).

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face. And it is a threat against which we must, and will, stand firm." Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"No one has done what Saddam Hussein has done, or is thinking of doing. He is producing weapons of mass destruction, and he is qualitatively and quantitatively different from other dictators." Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.

"In discussing Iraq, we begin by knowing that Saddam Hussein, unlike any other leader, has used weapons of mass destruction -- even against his own people. In fact, he is a repeat offender, having used them both in the battle and against his people." Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998. (Additional Sources (follow up remarks the next day): ABC's Good Morning America and NBC's Today).

"...the lesson of the 20th Century, is -- and we've learned through harsh experience -- that the only answer to aggression and to outlaw behavior is firmness, determination and, when necessary, action." Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998.

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983." Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998.

"He also has used chemical weapons, not only against his neighbors, but against his own people. He has done it ten times. So this guy is a repeat offender, if there ever was one. And we all know from our experience, whether it's in a classroom or out in the stores, that if you break the law -- if someone cheats or robs a bank, and they get away with it, they will try again. Given the stakes -- and the stakes are weapons of mass destruction -- the world cannot allow Saddam Hussein to try again." Madeline Albright, Feb 19, 1998.

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of Mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), Dec. 16, 1998.

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies." Madeline Albright, Nov. 10, 1999.

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI), Sept. 19, 2002.

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002. (Additional Source: GlobalSecurity.org).

"Iraq&#8217;s search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.." Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002. (Additional Source: GlobalSecurity.org).

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." Senator Ted Kennedy (D-MA), Sept. 27, 2002.

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"It would be naive to the point of grave danger not to believe that left to his own devices, Saddam Hussein will provoke, misjudge, or stumble into a future, more dangerous confrontation with the civilized world. He has as much as promised it." Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force-- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA), Oct. 9, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV), Oct 10, 2002.

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do." Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA), Oct. 10, 2002.

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY), Oct 10, 2002.

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL), Dec. 8, 2002.

"[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ..." Sen. John F. Kerry (D-MA), Jan. 23. 2003.

15 posted on 09/22/2003 1:21:46 PM PDT by mattdono
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To: mattdono
Thanks; I'll mash them out to the good guys!
16 posted on 09/22/2003 3:00:56 PM PDT by aShepard
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To: Pearls Before Swine
Local woman or a goat, he has that in common you know.
17 posted on 09/22/2003 10:40:14 PM PDT by longfellow (www.ROCKSOUPSTUDIOS.com)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; Black Agnes; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; DKNY; ...
Lowlife POS Alert!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

18 posted on 09/22/2003 10:45:04 PM PDT by nutmeg ("The DemocRATic party...has been hijacked by a confederacy of gangsters..." - Pat Caddell, 11/27/00)
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To: bedolido
Oh good, yet another former democrat President badmouthing the sitting president in a foreign country while our troops are in harms way. This should prove to the masses what this man is really all about, only they don't want to see do they?

Treason, Traitor, sedition, and just plain piece of you know what.
19 posted on 09/22/2003 10:53:40 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: bedolido
Clintons choices have killed more civilians then Molosivich.
20 posted on 09/22/2003 10:55:37 PM PDT by Brimack34 (Liberals are dummer then they look!!!)
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