TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO CALLING ALL FREEPERS Pt2 Disabled FL woman given Death Sentence by FL Courts

09-21-03 | pc93

[Theodore R.]

TR, I'm thinking the final pieces of the puzzle fell into place this evening with the revelation that Flordia law requires the patient to be 'not conscious' in cases of dehydration euthanizing and the added note regarding the 'retroactive' application of new law applied to Terri's case.

Please explain, MHG, how this "revelation" came into play. I am just reading your post at 8:30 Central on Tuesday morning. How can Greer be reined in for violating FL law if Jeb is too chicken to act?

[iowamomforfreedom]

Exam notes How did you find them? They are great! Are there more? Thanks Fay

I found them at friendsofterri.com. This and the bone scan was all that was there. Kind of surprised to find it. Maybe they were the only medical records submitted in court, which would make them open records. Seems to me I read that Greer wasn't letting much in the way of medical records be submitted during the trial.

[iowamomforfreedom]

Thanks for the addresses. I'm about to start composing two of the best requests for help I have ever written. Then, pray a lot. Wouldn't it be wonderful if God granted a miracle!

I would think this would really be up Oprah's alley. I will be praying with you that she covers it. The exposure would be HUGE if she did.

[syriacus]

From the SP Times column you posted (Thank you---- it's sickening to read, but we need to know)

She cannot perceive thirst or hunger. She doesn't have the brain structures necessary for that kind of perception."

Question:

If she "cannot perceive," then how can she be making the (so-called) "automatic responses" that the Kill-Terri crowd says she is making?

EITHER Terri feels OR she doesn't feel.

[syriacus]

The complaint is beautiful in so many ways.

I especially like this part...

Plaintiff demands a jury trial for all issues herein so triable.

[iowamomforfreedom]

I especially like this part...

Plaintiff demands a jury trial for all issues herein so triable.

I just finished reading this myself and had the exact same thought when I read that sentence.

[Pegita]

Could you give a summary of the complaint, syriacus ... my computer was put together in Bibletime days, with wiring and phone line to match ... I gave up after waiting a bazillion minutes for the file to load ... Thanks ...

[floriduh voter]

970 WFLA RADIO TUESDAY A.M.:

I can report that WFLA 970 radio reports Terri has filed a lawsuit against her husband I think in Federal Court. The allegations are are THAT JUDGE GREER CONSPIRED WITH MICHAEL SCHIAVO.

[Ethan_Allen]

"Apparently, the spirit of "Adolph Stalin" (Joseph Stalin-Adolph Hitler) lives within these evil and rotten to the core judges like Judge George Greer."

You are doing a great job on Terri's behalf, and I don't want to distract you too much (maybe this information will be useful to others). However, I have been doing some reading the last couple of days, and the culture of death did not begin with Hitler, it just found a vehicle in him to carry out Satanic plans of other very evil men. I've traced the culture of death through Hitler, to the psychiatrists, to the Humanist religion. Yes, religion. This is a Satanic religion being pushed here, based on the original lie told in the Garden of Eden. Don't trust God - listen to me and YE shall be as gods. No separation of church and state in America unless the religion to be separated is Christianity. The 'Rev.' Charles Frances Potter, who started out as an Unitarian minister, 'moved on' to found the first Humanist Society of New York in 1929. HE FOUNDED THE EUTHANASIA SOCIETY OF AMERICA IN JANUARY 1938.

"FAITH IN MAN, that is my creed, in three words. And that, my friends, is the very core of the new religion called Humanism." From A MESSAGE TO AMERICA, broadcast in the World of Religion Programme June 25, 1933 by the NATIONAL BROADCASTING COMPANY. [NBC, where are you today?]

"America is already great, but it will become greater IN PROPORTION AS WE IMPROVE OURSELVES INDIVIDUALLY AND SOCIALLY. Let us remember that "SELF-REVERENCE, SELF-KNOWLEDGE, SELF-CONTROL: THESE THREE ALONE LEAD LIFE TO SOVEREIGN POWER." If we 'sit not with folded hands calling on Hercules,' but ever do our personal and civic duty, CALLING ON THE RESERVES OF OUR OWN PERSONALITIES, THEN PERHAPS OUR SALVATION WILL BE NEARER THAN WE HAVE BELIEVED."

"In proportion then, as he becomes more conscious and self-recognizing, he promotes the life-force itself. In him the struggle of life proceeds, REVERTING ONLY TOO FREQUENTLY TO ANIMAL AND EVEN VEGETABLE [***] STAGES, BUT EVER REACHING UPWARD AGAIN TO HIGHER AND BETTER STATES OF CONSCIOUSNESS...." [if one is unable to reach upward from the 'vegetable' stage, than I suppose it is fruitless in the scheme of the humanist to exist]. - quotes from A MESSAGE TO AMERICA http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/charles_potter/message_to_america.html

"...The policy of the Euthanasia movement was to push for the legalization of voluntary Euthanasia, and THEN MAKE CASES FOR INVOLUNTARY EUTHANASIA OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND INCOMPETENT PERSONS LATER. [I'd like to point out here the recent case of the dentist who was accused of medicare fraud by the government. They insisted he take anti-psychotic drugs to stand trial, saying he was a nut, even though he passed their own 'sanity-test' with flying colors. He claimed the real reason they wanted him to take the drugs was to make him crazy so they could warehouse him and SHUT HIM UP, in order to keep him from repeating his story about seeing the government starting the fire at WACO.]

Dowbiggin has effectively connected the leadership of the euthanasia movement to that of the eugenics, the birth control, and the abortion movements. He refers to the questions of eugenics, euthanasia, birth control and abortion as the four taboos. These movements shared the same leadership, philosophy and donors.

Thanks to Ian Dowbiggin THE MODERN EUTHANASIA MOVEMENT CANNOT DENY THEIR ASSOCIATION WITH EUGENICS, THEIR DISLIKE FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND THE MEDICALLY VULNERABLE...." [where are all the Hollywood friends and supporters of Christopher Reeves and Michael J. Fox?]

Charles Francis "...POTTER VIEWED PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AS NEEDING TO BE 'MERCIFULLY EXECUTED BY [THE] LETHAL CHAMBER.' HE ALSO STATED THAT: 'IT IS SIMPLY SOCIAL COWARDICE THAT KEEPS [IMBECILES AND IDIOT INFANTS AND 'MONSTERS'] ALIVE,". Potter recommended safeguards, including legal and medical permission and a waiting period. YET THERE WAS NO MISTAKING HIS OPINION THAT EUTHANASIA WAS A TAX-SAVING, UTILITARIAN, AND BIOLOGICALL NECESSARY PUBLIC POLICY. (page 44)

But it doesn’t stop there. In 1976 ***ROCKEFELLER**** met with officials from both the Concern for Dying (CFD) and the Society for the Right to Die. HE EXPRESSED PARTICULAR INTEREST IN "ACTIVE EUTHANASIA" FOR THE TERMINALLY ILL AND SEVERELY DISABLED INFANTS. (page 133). quotes from Book review:
A Merciful End: The Euthanasia Movement in Modern America.
http://www.actionlife.org/News/np0305_5.phtml

Any search you do regarding this case, type in the name 'Rockefeller' next to your other search terms. The Rockefellers donated the land for the UN, and Senator 'Jay' Rockefeller (carpet-bagger of WVA) sits on the Finance Committee that recently voted to restore funding to UNESCO, which imposes United Nations/Rockefeller agendas in education, poplulation control, land use control, etc. etc., INTERNATIONALLY, and recently tried to impose gags on the media, as if they needed that.

The Rockefellers have been trying to put their man in the presidency for years. They were the ones to introduce and get passed the 25th amendment.

We were told 30 or 40 years ago by a cop, that there are about half a dozen families in the US that are untouchable. The Kennedy's were one, and the Rockefellers were another.

Type 'rockefeller population control', 'rockefeller euthanasia', 'rockefeller hospice', 'rockefeller hitler', 'Murder by Injection'.

Psychiatrists - the Men Behind Hitler: the Architects of Horror
by Thomas Rèoder, Volker Kubillus, & Anthony Burwell

http://www.ftrbooks.net/psych/nazi/hitler_psychiatrists.htm

The Nazis didn't die; they just moved to America:
CHAPTER IX THE SAME OLD TUNE http://www.toolan.com/hitler/sameold.html

Book starts here:
THE MEN BEHIND HITLER
A German warning to the world
by Bernhard Schreiber
http://www.toolan.com/hitler/index.html#contents

This is only the tip of the iceberg of the all-out frontal attack on America and Americans, particulary Americans of faith and strongly held-beliefs in the sanctity of life and the primacy of God, and secondly, all God-given rights. Because of the global nature of this attack, I would hope all would realize The Final Battle for the hearts and souls of men has begun. Anyone who is still crying 'tin-foil' will be left sitting dazed in the dust, wondering what hit him.

[floriduh voter]

We must keep in mind all the media who lurk here regularly. If they want to know what's going on, whether they're lefties or righties, they all drop by Free Republic, the best darn news digest on the internet.

And, there's something attractive about a site that has no pop-ups. (freepers, don't flood me with "how to remove pop-ups"). I don't want to know. BTTT See my post above. Breaking news from the radio this a.m.

[floriduh voter]

Good luck! Please check out my radio update above. It's somewhat encouraging.

[floriduh voter]

pc, is there a rally commitment list? If so, who has it so I can sign up. floriduh voter

[floriduh voter]

Charlie Daniels imo is a caring man who had his wild phase as did many of us. His heart's in the right place.

The Dixie Chicks announced they're leaving country music. Don't let the screen door hit you chicks on your way out.

[pc93]

someone said there is a way to do this on here.. re: rally committment list but i don't have a clue. can someone fill me in?

[Ethan_Allen]

"...For over 50 years Euthanasia has been advertised with such slogans as "The Right to Die", "Mercy Killing", and more recently "Aid in Dying", "Concern for Dying", the "Right to Autonomy". Before accepting this soft-sell it is vital to examine the history of the Euthanasia movement, and the aims and ideals of its supporters.

The National Society for the Legalisation of Euthanasia was founded from the First Humanist Society, whose President was Dr. CHARLES FRANCIS POTTER. On January 17 1938 the New York Times reported "Sanction is sought for Mercy Deaths". Potter stated: *** "WE HAVE FOR YEARS BEEN ACTIVE IN THE BIRTH CONTROL MOVEMENT... SINCE THAT FIGHT IS LARGELY WON, WE ARE FREE TO TRANSFER SOME OF OUR EFFORTS TO THE EUTHANASIA ENTERPRISE." ['ENTERPRISE'!!!!] The Advisory Board's members included Havelock Ellis, H. G. Wells and JULIAN HUXLEY [FIRST DIRECTOR-GENERAL OF UNESCO]. Later Somerset Maugham and Margaret Sanger joined. Sanger was renowned for her objection to the poor having children, and was a staunch supporter of eugenics. Professor Foster Kennedy, the neurologist at Cornell Medical School, headed the new group; named the "Euthanasia Society of America," and the New York Times of January 27 reported "`Mercy' Death Law Proposed in State"....."

from OPPOSING EUTHANASIA
Speech to the Cambridge Union opposing the Motion
"This House supports Voluntary Euthanasia", 9 November 1995
by Dr Peggy Norris, Chairman of ALERT
http://www.donoharm.org.uk/leaflets/oppos.htm


"..Sir JULIAN S. HUXLEY (1887-1975). Grandson of Darwin’s "bulldog" (Thomas Huxley), Julian Huxley was the leading spokesman for evolution by natural selection in the mid-20th century. Upon being named the first director-general of UNESCO, he was able to make evolution the keystone of United Nations scientific policy. He saw it as his opportunity to extend evolutionary thinking to the nations of the world, and he made the most of it (Julian Huxley, UNESCO pamphlet)...." http://www.drdino.com/cse.asp?pg=articles&specific=31

[floriduh voter]

I haven't read the Amended Complaint but it appears from what I heard on the radio that "new allegations have been made" re: the relationship between hubby and Judge Greer.

It is possible that at this time, Gov. Bush's hands are tied because his letter makes him a witness, Judge Greer blabbing to the Sheriff and to John Carassas about Jeb Bush makes him a witness. He wasn't a witness until Judge Greer snubbed his letter.

I'm sticking with my earlier belief that the Fla. AG is monitoring this. Maybe if Jeb Bush did anything else at this time, the bad guys would cry "foul" because Jeb is now a witness, among others.

[floriduh voter]

How many times have I seen Terri's closeup of her eyes following some object in the room? I've seen her smile and able to follow a command by blinking her eyes. I read that she cried recently when her mother left after a visit. She's a human being and not a houseplant as portrayed by hubby's attorney.

PUBLIC OUTRAGE AND AWARENESS will help Terri. The media is finally getting informed. The media who haven't touched this story may have very personal reasons & I'm not going to judge them.

I still say that creators.com is the best place to find columnists & tv hosts, copy and paste the same email to at least 50 columnists, some of whom have already done columns on editorial pages!

[floriduh voter]

My pc won't except a pdf version of the 9-23 Complaint. Do you know if it's up anywhere in html format? I'd love print the 9-23 Complaint to see who's in it. Judge Greer has proven that he should have stepped down from the bench years ago and move to a retirement community to play golf and take as many mulligans as he wants.

He's taken too many mulligans with Terri's guardianship case.

[Ethan_Allen]

See also:
THE ROCKEFELLER COMMISSION ON POPULATION GROWTH
http://www.population-security.org/10-CH2.html [Just peruse titles to see obsession with population control.]

ROCKEFELLER COMMISSION REPORT ON POPULATION GROWTH AND THE AMERICAN FUTURE
http://www.population-security.org/rockefeller/001_population_growth_and_the_american_future.htm

[report is along the lines of ALGORE's " 'wrenching transformation of society' is needed" in order to bring 'unity' between man and nature, AND CUT DOWN ON POPULATION.]

Meanwhile:

Immigration-Reduction Report Card
http://grades.betterimmigration.com/testgrades.php3?District=WV&VIPID=882

Top it off, the internet is rife with the rumor(?) that Bin Laden's reported business partner has been the family of the wife of US Senator John D. Rockefeller 4th [D., W. Va.], Sharon Percy Rockefeller.

Why WVA keeps voting for him, I will never understand. (then again....maybe they don't!)

[floriduh voter]

Great post re: the huge implications of how the pro-death forces silently lobbied for laws that suited their purposes and if the law doesn't fit their agenda, find a judicial activist who can be counted on to rule against disabled Americans like Terri.

Did you hear David Limbaugh has a new book called "Persecution"?