Effect of Simon and Ueberroth dropping out (total 13%) shows MadClintock did not climb to around 17% but
dropped instead to current 14% after having several debates without dominating presence of Schwarzenegger.
Instead of Seabiscuit, MadClintock runs a horse race like Mr. Ed evidently.
1 posted on
09/20/2003 3:21:44 PM PDT by
carbon14
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To: carbon14
If McClintock and Arnold debate, Arnold will be beaten like a stray mutt. No comparison in knowledge of the issues, none.
You'd be better off sticking with the star quality thing and the muzzle.
2 posted on
09/20/2003 3:24:18 PM PDT by
jwalsh07
To: carbon14
CORRECTION:
Bustamante.....28%
Schwarzenegger.....26%
MadClintock.....NO CHANCE
3 posted on
09/20/2003 3:24:21 PM PDT by
South40
(Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante)
To: carbon14
FYI 9 percent to 14 percent represents a 56% increase in support, not a drop.
4 posted on
09/20/2003 3:25:02 PM PDT by
thoughtomator
(Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
To: carbon14
Large Breasts and Arnold are tied if you take the standard margin of error into account. You would think the Democratic front runner has expanded his base of support in the last two weeks. Nada! The margin for support of the recall is larger than in the Field Poll - by a factor of two. Gray Davis is toast. Republicans should get behind Arnold for when you put every one's votes together, he can beat Large Breasts hands down. Let's not blow it, people.
5 posted on
09/20/2003 3:26:07 PM PDT by
goldstategop
(In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
To: carbon14
Source?
6 posted on
09/20/2003 3:26:51 PM PDT by
ambrose
(Free Tommy Chong!)
To: carbon14
Where's the other 32% of the voters in the survey? Are there more undecideds than support any one candidate?
7 posted on
09/20/2003 3:26:55 PM PDT by
thoughtomator
(Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
To: carbon14
Now all of a sudden, the Field Poll is a-okay.
You Arnoldnuts are hilarious.
14 posted on
09/20/2003 3:30:42 PM PDT by
Reagan Man
(The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
To: carbon14
Arnold Schwarzenegger's views in his own words:Pro Gun Control
- "I'm for gun control. I'm a peace-loving guy." (Time magazine cover story, Aug 18, 2003) When interviewed on the issues by Sean Hannity on August 27th, Schwarzenegger admitted that he is for gun control. He said he supported both the Brady Bill and the ban on so-called "assault weapons." He said, "Also I would like to close the loophole of the gun shows." When asked by the Sacramento Bee to detail his positions on gun issues (scroll down), Arnold stated that he supports legislation to ban .50-caliber rifles, force gun buyers to pass a state-defined test in order to purchase a handgun, and require load indicators or magazine safety disconnects on new semiauto handguns.
- Pro Abortion
Schwarzenegger appeared on FoxNews' "Bill O'Reilly" program in May 2001 and said he disagreed with President Bush's pro-life position. "I'm for choice," Schwarzenegger said on the program. "The women should have the choice. The women should decide what they want to do with their bodies. I'm all for that." When interviewed on the issues by Sean Hannity on August 27th, Schwarzenegger admitted again that he is "pro-choice". - Pro Gay Agenda
From Cosmopolitan magazine, "I have no sexual standards in my head that say this is good or this is bad. Homosexual-that only means to me that he enjoys sex with a man and I enjoy sex with a woman. It's all legitimate to me." He also supports gay adoption, despite the fact that both conservative Republicans and moderate Democrats voted by a 61 percent margin for Proposition 22, the Defense of Marriage Initiative, which defined marriage as that between a man and a woman. (Newsmax, 28 July 2003)
When interviewed on the issues by Sean Hannity on August 27th, Schwarzenegger admitted that he is for legalized "domestic partnerships" which would give gay couples the same benefits as marriage. - Pro Big Government Programs
Regarding the passage of Proposition 49, a big government social scheme providing funds for after school programs: "Every California child deserves access to a proven, quality, life-changing afterschool program, and now they will have it. My hope is that, as goes California, so goes the rest of our nation." When interviewed on the issues by Sean Hannity on August 27th, Schwarzenegger said that he believes that social programs should be focused on children. He said, "I think the important thing, again, is that we work on education and really make sure that the kids have the first run at our treasury."
In the same interview with Hannity, Schwarzenegger said that he supports big government programs to buy back leases as a measure to protect the environment. He said, "I think that our state government and our federal government should negotiate to buy back the leases [from the oil companies.]"
- Pro Environmentalist Agenda
When a reporter asked him in early August to detail his positions on the environment, he said "I will fight for the environment. Nothing to worry about."
When interviewed on the issues by Sean Hannity on August 27th, Schwarzenegger said he did not support offshore oil drilling. He said, "No, absolutely not. I think that we should stop the oil drilling and I think that our state government and our federal government should negotiate to buy back the leases [from the oil companies.]"
- Pro Clinton/Anti Impeachment
In 1999, Schwarzenegger told George magazine of his bitterness about the frenzy over Monica Lewinsky and Bill Clinton and the waste of time and energy it represented. "That was another thing I will never forgive the Republican Party for," he said. "I was ashamed to call myself a Republican during that period."
- Soft on Illegal Immigration
In a radio interview with KABC radio host Larry Elder on August 27th, Schwarzenegger said that allowing illegal immigrants to stay in the United States is "the right thing to do." Last year, while campaigning for his Prop. 49 after-school programs initiative, Schwarzenegger...declared in answer to a question from the audience: "I would never stand in the way of any child going to school, whether he or she is here legally or illegally, it does not matter." (Sacramento Bee, 24 August)
17 posted on
09/20/2003 3:31:43 PM PDT by
Godebert
To: carbon14
Wow! If the Field Poll has Arnold within 2% at 26%, he must now really be around 40%. The Democrat strategy of keeping no chance candidate McClintock in the race to get Bust-MEChA elected must not be working.
Cool.
To: carbon14
What is your source, carbon14?
To: carbon14
MadClintockAs clever as it is persuasive.
Considering McClintock's supporters have nothing to lose, I'd say you need them a hell of a lot more than they need you. Maybe insulting the living daylights out of them, as the Arnoldites have been doing for weeks now, isn't the best way to go about winning them over.
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ping
35 posted on
09/20/2003 3:41:41 PM PDT by
EggsAckley
(..........I *LOVE* hitting the abuse button...............)
To: carbon14
FYI... This is a Public Research Institute poll not a Field Poll.
To: carbon14
Simple math and freshman stats skills are all that are needed to see that McClintock, a fine man with a great record, simply cannot win this race.
While it is a reasonable leap of logic to say that among McClintock supporters, if he dropped out and urged support for A.S. that A.S. would likely win with a strong margin, perhaps even a clear majority, the reverse is simply not true. A.S. has many supporters in the independent and crossover camps who will simply not be pursuaded to vote for McClintock, even if A.S. begged them personally.
Personal note: those among us who see the world for what it is and are willing to accept the situation and endeavor to do our best within the constraints of the world as it truly exists are not charlatans, turn coats, RINOs, neo-cons, carpet-baggers, or willing accomplices of the Devil himself ... we are simply political realists who believe that having an (R) in the Govs mansion is important, and that to do that we need a candidate who can get crossover votes because the fact remains that there are a LOT more (D)s out here than (R)s ... that may mean that the best and most electable candidate is not the most 'ideologically pure' candidate ... but if you would rather have us suffer the same fate again and lose the opportunity to make judicial appontiments, lose the opportunity to grasp the veto pen, lose the opportunity to campaign for more local reps, and lose the bully pulpit ... then fine, lead and vote with your 'conscience' intact, and sleep well after Cruz takes the oath of office knowing that you helped elect him...
47 posted on
09/20/2003 3:47:31 PM PDT by
BlueNgold
(Feed the Tree .....)
To: carbon14
I can't see what all this fuss is about anymore.
The recall was STRUCK DOWN by a Federal court. THERE IS NO RECALL!
49 posted on
09/20/2003 3:48:15 PM PDT by
Old Sarge
(Serving You... on Operation Noble Eagle!)
To: carbon14
From previous Field Poll on Sept 10 we see that Arnold not only does better overall, he has almost twice as many Republican votes as McClinton. Arnold leads among Independents and even has more than 10% of the Dems. McClinton is almost an asterisk beyond the Republican party... and he expects to win?
Table 2
Voter preferences to replace Davis as Governor without Ueberroth by subgroup
(among likely voters)
Bustamante Schwarzenegger Mc-Clintock Others None/Undecided
Likely voters statewide 32% 27 14 9 18
Party registration
(.43) Democrats 61% 11 4 12 12
(.39) Republicans 4% 43 28 2 23
(.18) Non-partisans/others* 19% 30 8 17 26
147 posted on
09/20/2003 4:44:05 PM PDT by
Dave S
To: carbon14
Bustamante.....25% Schwarzenegger 22%If there is not a dimes worth of difference between the two then what's the point in supporting Arnold?
MadClintock.....9%
9%, how absolutely pitiful. Maybe if McClintock spent more time trying to convert some liberals into conservatives things would be different. Instead it seems to me -- from far away -- that he is just out to prove that Arnold is no conservative. He will not win that way -- NEVER!
210 posted on
09/20/2003 5:28:11 PM PDT by
FreeReign
(They're all babies!)
To: carbon14
The new poll coming out is not the Field Poll
but the PRI poll. Last PRI poll was Mclintock
at 5 now he is at 14% so it confirms
he is moving up.
PRI has been his worst poll.
Last Field Poll by the way had McClintock
at 13% not 9%.
To: carbon14
Interesting. What did Schwarzenegger's numbers do?
To: carbon14
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