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Effect of Simon and Ueberroth dropping out (total 13%) shows MadClintock did not climb to around 17% but dropped instead to current 14% after having several debates without dominating presence of Schwarzenegger.

Instead of Seabiscuit, MadClintock runs a horse race like Mr. Ed evidently.

1 posted on 09/20/2003 3:21:44 PM PDT by carbon14
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If McClintock and Arnold debate, Arnold will be beaten like a stray mutt. No comparison in knowledge of the issues, none.

You'd be better off sticking with the star quality thing and the muzzle.

2 posted on 09/20/2003 3:24:18 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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CORRECTION:

Bustamante.....28%
Schwarzenegger.....26%
MadClintock.....NO CHANCE

3 posted on 09/20/2003 3:24:21 PM PDT by South40 (Vote Mcclintock, elect bustamante)
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FYI 9 percent to 14 percent represents a 56% increase in support, not a drop.
4 posted on 09/20/2003 3:25:02 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
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Large Breasts and Arnold are tied if you take the standard margin of error into account. You would think the Democratic front runner has expanded his base of support in the last two weeks. Nada! The margin for support of the recall is larger than in the Field Poll - by a factor of two. Gray Davis is toast. Republicans should get behind Arnold for when you put every one's votes together, he can beat Large Breasts hands down. Let's not blow it, people.
5 posted on 09/20/2003 3:26:07 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Source?
6 posted on 09/20/2003 3:26:51 PM PDT by ambrose (Free Tommy Chong!)
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Where's the other 32% of the voters in the survey? Are there more undecideds than support any one candidate?
7 posted on 09/20/2003 3:26:55 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Right Wing Crazy #5338526)
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Now all of a sudden, the Field Poll is a-okay.

You Arnoldnuts are hilarious.

14 posted on 09/20/2003 3:30:42 PM PDT by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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Arnold Schwarzenegger's views in his own words:
17 posted on 09/20/2003 3:31:43 PM PDT by Godebert
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Wow! If the Field Poll has Arnold within 2% at 26%, he must now really be around 40%. The Democrat strategy of keeping no chance candidate McClintock in the race to get Bust-MEChA elected must not be working.


Cool.
20 posted on 09/20/2003 3:33:24 PM PDT by socal_parrot
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What is your source, carbon14?
21 posted on 09/20/2003 3:33:51 PM PDT by mrs tiggywinkle
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MadClintock

As clever as it is persuasive.

Considering McClintock's supporters have nothing to lose, I'd say you need them a hell of a lot more than they need you. Maybe insulting the living daylights out of them, as the Arnoldites have been doing for weeks now, isn't the best way to go about winning them over.

31 posted on 09/20/2003 3:38:18 PM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
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To: BibChr; onyx; PhiKapMom; Tamsey; redlipstick; habs4ever; My2Cents; South40; ...
ping
35 posted on 09/20/2003 3:41:41 PM PDT by EggsAckley (..........I *LOVE* hitting the abuse button...............)
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FYI... This is a Public Research Institute poll not a Field Poll.
44 posted on 09/20/2003 3:45:38 PM PDT by GrandmaPatriot
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Simple math and freshman stats skills are all that are needed to see that McClintock, a fine man with a great record, simply cannot win this race.

While it is a reasonable leap of logic to say that among McClintock supporters, if he dropped out and urged support for A.S. that A.S. would likely win with a strong margin, perhaps even a clear majority, the reverse is simply not true. A.S. has many supporters in the independent and crossover camps who will simply not be pursuaded to vote for McClintock, even if A.S. begged them personally.

Personal note: those among us who see the world for what it is and are willing to accept the situation and endeavor to do our best within the constraints of the world as it truly exists are not charlatans, turn coats, RINOs, neo-cons, carpet-baggers, or willing accomplices of the Devil himself ... we are simply political realists who believe that having an (R) in the Govs mansion is important, and that to do that we need a candidate who can get crossover votes because the fact remains that there are a LOT more (D)s out here than (R)s ... that may mean that the best and most electable candidate is not the most 'ideologically pure' candidate ... but if you would rather have us suffer the same fate again and lose the opportunity to make judicial appontiments, lose the opportunity to grasp the veto pen, lose the opportunity to campaign for more local reps, and lose the bully pulpit ... then fine, lead and vote with your 'conscience' intact, and sleep well after Cruz takes the oath of office knowing that you helped elect him...

47 posted on 09/20/2003 3:47:31 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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I can't see what all this fuss is about anymore.

The recall was STRUCK DOWN by a Federal court. THERE IS NO RECALL!

49 posted on 09/20/2003 3:48:15 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Serving You... on Operation Noble Eagle!)
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From previous Field Poll on Sept 10 we see that Arnold not only does better overall, he has almost twice as many Republican votes as McClinton. Arnold leads among Independents and even has more than 10% of the Dems. McClinton is almost an asterisk beyond the Republican party... and he expects to win?

Table 2
Voter preferences to replace Davis as Governor without Ueberroth – by subgroup
(among likely voters)
Bustamante Schwarzenegger Mc-Clintock Others None/Undecided
Likely voters – statewide 32% 27 14 9 18
Party registration
(.43) Democrats 61% 11 4 12 12
(.39) Republicans 4% 43 28 2 23
(.18) Non-partisans/others* 19% 30 8 17 26
147 posted on 09/20/2003 4:44:05 PM PDT by Dave S
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Bustamante.....25% Schwarzenegger 22%

If there is not a dimes worth of difference between the two then what's the point in supporting Arnold?

MadClintock.....9%

9%, how absolutely pitiful. Maybe if McClintock spent more time trying to convert some liberals into conservatives things would be different. Instead it seems to me -- from far away -- that he is just out to prove that Arnold is no conservative. He will not win that way -- NEVER!

210 posted on 09/20/2003 5:28:11 PM PDT by FreeReign (They're all babies!)
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The new poll coming out is not the Field Poll
but the PRI poll. Last PRI poll was Mclintock
at 5 now he is at 14% so it confirms
he is moving up.

PRI has been his worst poll.

Last Field Poll by the way had McClintock
at 13% not 9%.
254 posted on 09/20/2003 6:21:29 PM PDT by Princeliberty
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Interesting. What did Schwarzenegger's numbers do?
307 posted on 09/20/2003 9:52:33 PM PDT by Kevin Curry
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331 posted on 09/20/2003 10:46:06 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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