Sound like trailer park trash to me. I hope he gets what is coming to him [without bloodshed].
To: 11th Earl of Mar
It also has attracted the scrutiny of patriot and anti-government groups, including a Colorado-based organization that threatens to send 600 armed members to protect Barkley. If they really cared about the guy, they'd each send $10 to get the guy a lawyer.
2 posted on
09/17/2003 9:04:28 AM PDT by
TheDon
(Tick, tock, tick, tock...the sound of the clock ticking down the time until Tom drops out.)
To: 11th Earl of Mar
If he hadn't lied on the building permit application, none of this would have happened. Now he's just wanking over some fantasy of standing off the gubmint...
3 posted on
09/17/2003 9:04:48 AM PDT by
Chemist_Geek
("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
To: 11th Earl of Mar
"Honk For Your Constitutional Rights," it becomes clear Barkley is ready for a fight.
A black mark for those who understand and are fighting for a truely Constitutional Government.
Just because you don't LIKE a law doesn't mean you have a choice about obeying the law. As best as I can tell the founders intended that we obey the law. They were more concerned with keeping to FEDERAL government out of LOCAL issues.
To: 11th Earl of Mar
"If things proceed toward showdown Thursday, Hellstrom said she is making plans of her own. "We're having a kegger. You might as well enjoy the show."'My Friend, what are you doing for the coming revolution.'
'Me?...well, I can bring the beer.'
6 posted on
09/17/2003 9:20:46 AM PDT by
Khurkris
(Ranger On...)
To: 11th Earl of Mar
Sean Hannity was bitching and moanining and raising a stink on his radio show yesterday about some old American Veteran who is violating his homeowner's association agreement by flying an American flag on a flagpole on his property. The HoA is trying to force him to remove it. I can't remember what the court's decision was, but I had to side with the HoA, as much as I despise HoAs. He, as a resident of that community, signed an agreement to abide by the HoA guidelines then sought to violate that.
Hannity was all whining, "BUT HE HAS A RIGHT TO FLY THE AMERICAN FLAG". Apparently for Mr Hannity, there are times when it is OK to violate the rule of law.
7 posted on
09/17/2003 9:25:50 AM PDT by
xrp
To: *bang_list
Bang!
8 posted on
09/17/2003 9:37:52 AM PDT by
AdamSelene235
(Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
To: 11th Earl of Mar
"Sound like trailer park trash to me. I hope he gets what is coming to him... "
call in the army...
only 3 kids to burn here...
12 posted on
09/17/2003 10:09:55 AM PDT by
hoot2
To: 11th Earl of Mar
"Sound like trailer park trash to me. I hope he gets what is coming to him [without bloodshed]."
Showing your elitist streak, aren't you? The pejorative 'trailer park trash' is used by elitists to describe poor folks, or rural folks, or folks who are down on their luck. Uber-Dim James Carville loves the phrase, and bandied it about quite regularly (he was the one who made the catty remark about Paula Jones, a dollar bill, and a trailer park, if I recall correctly). The guy just wants to live on his land in peace, for God's sake. Hell, there are places in America where it's forbidden to fly the American flag on one's property, or have a pick-up truck parked in the driveway (some of the more 'elitist' homeowner associations).
To: 11th Earl of Mar; Chemist_Geek; GrandEagle
Sound like trailer park trash to me. I hope he gets what is coming to himThey look like trailer trash too. And damn fine Americans!
There is much more to this story than this simple article tells. Lyle Barkley's homes were in place before the township had zoning laws that prohibited them and before there were any neighbors.
If he hadn't lied on the building permit application, none of this would have happened.
He applied for a permit to add additions to the homes. He was granted these permits with no explanation of what is and is not allowed. (BTW manufactured additions are allowed under the code) After placing the additional mobile homes on the site and starting to connect them, his permits were revoked. No explanation or reason just revoked. Barkley went to the city wanting to know how he could bring his homes up to code. They would not negotiate or even talk to him. They just told him the additions would have to be removed or he would be fined.
Later Township attorney James Murray said, "No township or city in the state would allow the sandwiching of a manufactured house on an already nonconforming structure under zoning." Meaning that it was not the additions that were objected to, but the original "nonconforming structures" which had been grandfathered in. And in court by their own admission they had no objections to the additions, just his existing homes that they said were substandard and could not be added on to.
So in essence this is a story about how an abusive government is trying to punish a man for his "nonconforming substandard home" by any means possible and not a story of a man bent on avoiding the law.
They may be trailer trash, but they should be entitled, like the rest of us, to a government responsive to its citizens and not a government that abuses it's powers to rid itself of whatever people it deems as unacceptable for whatever reason.
17 posted on
09/17/2003 10:21:10 AM PDT by
Between the Lines
("What Goes Into the Mind Comes Out in a Life")
To: 11th Earl of Mar
Hellstrom's deck faces west, where she has a postcard view of Lake Charlevoix. But she's weary of looking down on Barkley's property, which is cluttered with old tractors, backhoes, numerous vehicles, a sizable wood pile, piles of discarded siding, old tires and rusted engines.Maybe she should move.
19 posted on
09/17/2003 10:23:00 AM PDT by
#3Fan
To: 11th Earl of Mar
Barkley's property, which is cluttered with old tractors, backhoes, numerous vehicles, a sizable wood pile, piles of discarded siding, old tires and rusted engines. Freeper? What's his handle?
24 posted on
09/17/2003 10:47:34 AM PDT by
chudogg
To: 11th Earl of Mar
If this idiot refuses to follow the laws of society just NUKE HIM!!
I am SO tired of these freaks who think they can make their own rules. Just like the idiots in Waco and Ruby Ridge (Putting on flame-proof clothing), this guy is LOOKING to pick a fight. Don't give it to him, just give him a daisy cutter and be done with it.
To: 11th Earl of Mar
A statement faxed to The Press quotes Norman Olson, the self-described senior adviser to the Michigan Militia, saying the dispute "stinks of crooked politics, corruption and favors." If that's the best case Normal Olson can make, I think anybody who shows up at Barkley's trailer park will qualify for Darwin Awards.
And of course, Rick Stanley's "fascist police state" boils down to Mr. Barkley's running afoul of a group of rural good ol' boys.
With people like this are representing RKBA, it's no wonder the gun grabbers have so many successes.
29 posted on
09/17/2003 11:00:36 AM PDT by
r9etb
To: 11th Earl of Mar
You are an insult Sir, to the human race, much less the American people!
To: 11th Earl of Mar
If things proceed toward showdown Thursday, Hellstrom said she is making plans of her own. "We're having a kegger. You might as well enjoy the show."
In other words she's an arrogant nosy b**ch
54 posted on
09/17/2003 4:48:33 PM PDT by
Chad Fairbanks
("I guess we got so focused on the rubber penis we didn't even pay attention to what he was saying.")
To: 11th Earl of Mar
"he is just doing what every property owner has every right to do"
Beware the "patriot act"
55 posted on
09/17/2003 4:58:29 PM PDT by
WhiteGuy
(It's now the Al Davis GOP...........................Just Win Baby !!!)
To: 11th Earl of Mar
He said he has several weapons on his property, including a high-powered rifle and shotguns. He has plenty of ammunition. Now there's a shocker.
"I myself am not going to be armed," Barkley said, adding he will leave that to others.
Coward. If Barkley is determined to sound like a wingnut, he at least should have the decency to ACT like one too.
73 posted on
09/18/2003 5:39:16 AM PDT by
strela
("Piffle, dear, I don't have morals, just customs." Hilda Burroughs)
To: 11th Earl of Mar
Michigan Militia and Landowner Vow Armed Defense of PropertyWhy post such blatantly incorrect headline? The Michigan Militia is NOT involved. See following excerpt from article:
It also has attracted the scrutiny of patriot and anti-government groups, including a Colorado-based organization that threatens to send 600 armed members to protect Barkley.
Denver resident Rick Stanley, founder of the Second American Revolution Militia Mutual Defense Pact, vowed Barkley will not stand alone.
75 posted on
09/18/2003 5:42:56 AM PDT by
varon
To: 11th Earl of Mar
"Sound like trailer park trash to me. I hope he gets what is coming to him..." How very thoughtfully deliberative of you, not to mention compassionate. At least you didn't jump to any harsh judgement of the guy based upon one article from a liberal trash-rag.
98 posted on
09/18/2003 7:26:48 AM PDT by
Gargantua
(Embrace clarity.)
To: 11th Earl of Mar; All
111 posted on
09/18/2003 8:01:11 AM PDT by
FourPeas
(Syntax, schmintax.)
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