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Michigan Militia and Landowner Vow Armed Defense of Property
Grand Rapids Press ^ | 9/17/03

Posted on 09/17/2003 8:54:30 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar

Landowner, militia vow armed defense of property

Wednesday, September 17, 2003By Ted Roelofs
The Grand Rapids Press


HORTON BAY -- On the surface, Lyle Barkley hardly seems the type to provoke an armed standoff.

At 55, the silver-haired, grandfatherly Charlevoix County excavator says he never has been in real trouble with the law. He does not advocate violence.

But as he leans by a sign on his property that says "Honk For Your Constitutional Rights," it becomes clear Barkley is ready for a fight.

"I don't want no bloodshed unless they shoot the first shot," Barkley said. "All I'm doing is standing up for my rights."

As if to underscore the point, Barkley stands just a few feet from a 6-foot-deep trench he dug on the perimeter of his land in the hill country about 10 miles southeast of Charlevoix.

Barkley says armed men from across the country are ready to occupy that trench to defend him, as he approaches a Thursday court deadline to remove three mobile homes he installed on his land.

In April, District Judge Richard May found that Barkley violated the zoning laws of Bay Township when he brought in the homes without permits. May reaffirmed that ruling Tuesday afternoon, denying a petition by Barkley to rescind his order.

The case has drawn widespread interest from local media outlets, not to mention radio talk shows from Arizona to Texas to Washington.

It also has attracted the scrutiny of patriot and anti-government groups, including a Colorado-based organization that threatens to send 600 armed members to protect Barkley.

Denver resident Rick Stanley, founder of the Second American Revolution Militia Mutual Defense Pact, vowed Barkley will not stand alone.

"They have subverted the intentions of what our forefathers say our government should be," he said. "We have a fascist tyranny.

"I call it the police state of America, and we are going to stop it one way or another," Stanley said.

On his Web site, Stanley warned about the consequences of the standoff with Newaygo County resident Scott Woodring, killed by state police in July after authorities tried to serve him with an arrest warrant that accused him of trying to solicit sex from 15-year-old girls.

Stanley said he got involved in the dispute when he was contacted by Barkley, a member of his group.

A statement faxed to The Press quotes Norman Olson, the self-described senior adviser to the Michigan Militia, saying the dispute "stinks of crooked politics, corruption and favors."

"I admire his spirit," Olson said of Barkley.

Charlevoix County Sheriff George Lasater said he is prepared to enforce the law. But he also said he hopes to avoid confrontation.

"We will do everything in our power and jurisdiction to make sure nobody is hurt on their side," Lasater said, adding, "the sheriff's department will do what it has to do to make sure the court orders are followed. We won't be intimidated by them."

Lasater would not say what action he might take if Barkley refuses to back down.

Township officials say they are doing nothing more than enforcing the law.

"This is a simple, blatant disregard for the law," township attorney James Murray said of Barkley's actions. "You can't just disregard ordinances."

According to the township, Barkley applied for a permit to build additions on to two mobile homes on his 4-acre property. Barkley instead moved two additional mobile units onto his property, attaching one to the mobile home in which he lives with his wife, Shirley, 50, and one to the mobile home where his daughter, Kim, 22, lives with her boyfriend and three children.

Judge May found that both homes violated building codes.

The court also found Barkley allowed people to move into another modular unit on the property without a permit.

To Barkley's way of thinking, he is just doing what every property owner has every right to do.

He has tangled with the township before. About 13 years ago, he was cited because of numerous barking dogs on his property. Barkley said he was acquitted.

About five years ago, he had a dispute over stumps he wanted to bury on his property. Barkley said that was resolved amicably.

He has had no criminal brushes with the law, felony or misdemeanor, according to state police records.

Barkley believes he is backed up in his latest dispute by his discovery that his property is "patent land," stemming from an 1871 act by President Ulysses S. Grant.

He said he has several weapons on his property, including a high-powered rifle and shotguns. He has plenty of ammunition.

"I myself am not going to be armed," Barkley said, adding he will leave that to others.

Barkley said he has had plenty of local support, including lots of honking horns in response to the sign in front of his driveway.

But standing on a deck on a bluff that overlooks Barkley's property, neighbor Carol Hellstrom said she backs the township.

"I have no sympathy for him whatsoever," Hellstrom said. "There's reasons for the laws. That's what this whole country is founded on."

Hellstrom's deck faces west, where she has a postcard view of Lake Charlevoix. But she's weary of looking down on Barkley's property, which is cluttered with old tractors, backhoes, numerous vehicles, a sizable wood pile, piles of discarded siding, old tires and rusted engines.

To her way of thinking, Barkley brought this on himself.

If things proceed toward showdown Thursday, Hellstrom said she is making plans of her own.

"We're having a kegger. You might as well enjoy the show."



© 2003 Grand Rapids Press. Used with permission


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To: 11th Earl of Mar
You are an insult Sir, to the human race, much less the American people!
41 posted on 09/17/2003 12:19:44 PM PDT by countrydummy
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To: AdamSelene235
nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
Maybe I missed something in the writings here but I did not notice where the government was taking his property for public use.
42 posted on 09/17/2003 12:21:33 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: GrandEagle
Maybe I missed something in the writings here but I did not notice where the government was taking his property for public use.

Dictating the terms of use is a regulatory taking.

Would you argue you "owned" your shoes if you were not allowed to put them on and had to pay $25 a year to keep them from being seized?

43 posted on 09/17/2003 12:24:20 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: AdamSelene235
Dictating the terms of use is a regulatory taking.
Again I will not argue that the mans cause is just.
Under your logic the constitution can mean absolutely anything that anyone wants it to. That is the current school of thought that I am trying to fight with my legislators.
The constitution is a list of the authority that we gave to the FEDERAL government. Included in that is a few things that we prohibited the states from doing.
44 posted on 09/17/2003 12:33:34 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: ought-six
Actually, the founders took the position that we should obey JUST laws, not unjust, oppressive, or illegal laws.

Exactly!

45 posted on 09/17/2003 12:36:29 PM PDT by countrydummy
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To: agitator
Oh goody. Another property rights thread.

Let the bootlicking begin...

46 posted on 09/17/2003 12:41:17 PM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: GrandEagle
The constitution is a list of the authority that we gave to the FEDERAL government.

Nope.

Amendment XIV

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

47 posted on 09/17/2003 12:41:47 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: r9etb
"With people like this are representing RKBA, it's no wonder the gun grabbers have so many successes."

Actually there have been a number of RKBA wins lately. And ask Al Gore about the pro-RKBA vote in his home state of Tenn. and how it impacted the 2000 election.
48 posted on 09/17/2003 12:47:29 PM PDT by Stew Padasso (Who is the tag whore now!)
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To: AdamSelene235
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Back to government class for you.
This country was founded by people who believed that we were created beings and as such endowed by our creator with all rights.
Understanding the need for a government, but also the need to restrict that government they came together and agreed between themselves what authority that government should have. They listed that authority that "we the people" granted that govenment in the Constitution. The Federal government has ONLY the authority that we have granted it in the Constitution and The powers not deligated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, as you pointed out a few listed in amendment 14 are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
I suggest that you try reading the Federalist papers and the Anti-Federalist papers for starters. There are many other documents containing writings of the founding era that may be helpful.
On this subject both the people for AND in opposition of the proposed constitution agreed.
49 posted on 09/17/2003 12:56:58 PM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: Chemist_Geek
"Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner, folks!"

Would you consider this an RKBA winner?

"The President supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law." - Click here to see a video of Ari Fleischer discussing the AW Ban.  Right click and save target as

50 posted on 09/17/2003 12:59:30 PM PDT by Stew Padasso (Who is the tag whore now!)
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To: Between the Lines
Later Township attorney James Murray said, "No township or city in the state would allow the sandwiching of a manufactured house on an already nonconforming structure under zoning." Meaning that it was not the additions that were objected to, but the original "nonconforming structures" which had been grandfathered in.

A home which is exempt under the grandfather exception becomes subject to the law when it is modified. IE: If I had a sod house before the city was founded, it would not be subject to zoning laws until I tried to make modifications which require a permit. At that time, I would be required to update the home to current zoning regulations.

Looking at the photo you included in your posting, I can't think of a place in the country that would permit it.
51 posted on 09/17/2003 1:03:08 PM PDT by kingu
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To: GrandEagle
You just don't get it do you? The man is simply trying to add on to his home and that of his daughter's. The best way he can, I imagine. He put those mobile homes on as additions!

Zoning laws are evil! They are about control and power! And that my friend, is not what the Constitution is about! Maybe you should have read the federalist papers more!
52 posted on 09/17/2003 1:48:44 PM PDT by countrydummy
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To: GrandEagle
The Federal government has ONLY the authority that we have granted it in the Constitution

LOL, which includes the power to conduct warantless searches as long as they are "reasonable" (see the Terry doctrine), hold people without trial (so long as the case is not deemed "criminal"), quarter troops in people's homes (in a manner proscribed by law), use treaty powers to acquire local police powers over burning issues such as duck hunting and wetlands regulation, Hell even raising corn on your own land to feed your own hogs is considered "interstate" commmerce and therefore subject to the whims of Congress.

I suggest that you try reading the Federalist papers and the Anti-Federalist papers for starters.

The Federalist papers were nothing but propaganda to disguise the true nature of the Founding Lawyers nationalist (not Federalist) ambitions. Why do you think they shut down newspapers which printed anti-Federalist views? Rhode Island was blockaded and literally held at gunpoint to force her signature. Many revolutionaries such as Patrick Henry refused to attend the Con Con out of disgust.

53 posted on 09/17/2003 2:12:03 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
If things proceed toward showdown Thursday, Hellstrom said she is making plans of her own.

"We're having a kegger. You might as well enjoy the show."

In other words she's an arrogant nosy b**ch

54 posted on 09/17/2003 4:48:33 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks ("I guess we got so focused on the rubber penis we didn't even pay attention to what he was saying.")
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
"he is just doing what every property owner has every right to do"

Beware the "patriot act"
55 posted on 09/17/2003 4:58:29 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's now the Al Davis GOP...........................Just Win Baby !!!)
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To: A Broken Glass Republican
"Don't give it to him, just give him a daisy cutter and be done with it."

Why don't you go down there and handle the trash, tough guy?

57 posted on 09/17/2003 5:14:45 PM PDT by Stew Padasso (Who is the tag whore now!)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
"In other words she's an arrogant nosy b**ch"

These worms need to understand that dirty tricks and government harrassment can work both ways. Someone might take the opportunity to look into her history, lifestyle etc. Maybe there is some sh*t floating in her toilet?
58 posted on 09/17/2003 5:30:45 PM PDT by Stew Padasso (Who is the tag whore now!)
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To: Stew Padasso
Could be. I hope she also realizes that if they burn this guy out (which seems to be S.O.P.) it's possible that HER property might be caught in the conflagration...
59 posted on 09/17/2003 5:34:08 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks ("I guess we got so focused on the rubber penis we didn't even pay attention to what he was saying.")
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To: Chad Fairbanks
It'll be worth it to get rid of that trailer park trash. </sarcasm>
60 posted on 09/17/2003 5:41:39 PM PDT by Stew Padasso (Who is the tag whore now!)
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