MSNBC- Recall election to be delayed

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[Ragirl]

California Appeals Court - Recall should be blocked!!!

[Yup!!]

you are going to have to get rid of those before the next presidential election-or we will have to postpone the pres. election.....................

[mhking]

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[A_Niceguy_in_CA]

"The SCOTUS will deny hearing it I'll bet."

Can't the SCOTUS come out with a ruling that the 9th Circuit had no juridiction in this case involving a state election for a state official and vacate the 9th's ruling?

[nathanbedford]

This is actually good news.

First, someone will no doubt point out the parallels with Venezuela.

Second, the odd are that, either Davis will not be recalled, or, if his is, Bustaments will be elected.

Third, if Arnold is by a fluke elected, he will not be able to accomplish anything conservative in the teeth of an entrenched liberal establishment (Reagan to the contrary notwithstanding.) And Republicans will lose more credibility as California sinks deeper into the slough.

Fourth, Arnold is probably a limp-wristed conservative at best, absolutely liberal on social issues and unreliable on fiscal issues.

I would rather have the issue than a forlorn chance of having a RINO.

[oceanview]

yes, that why its better to have this as an issue rather then have the SCOTUS overturn it and give the Dems an issue.

The NJ fiasco permanently destroyed McGreevey's poll numbers (in the 30s). This decision might allow CA to be competitive for Bush in 2004, and a possible defeat of Boxer (by Arnold, denied a shot at being governor by an activist liberal court). And, it could be useful to focus on illegal alien voting that is surely coming along with these licenses.

I say, let's play the political angle on this. Its California we are talking about, we have nothing to lose.

[AntiGuv]

No, the issues in this case have nothing to do with the issues in Bush v. Gore. And I say that as a lawyer who filed one of the winning briefs in the first Bush case.

Congratulations. Filings and rulings have unintended consequences. You should know that. See my post #328.

[Tree of Liberty]

These are federal judges. They serve until retirement, death, or impeachment and removal by congress.

[woodyinscc]

If the SCOTUS refuses the case, then the 9th circuit has no business taking the case. Thus it has to be voided.

[Congressman Billybob]

Rush is DEAD WRONG on this. See my other posts on this thread. Also, as other posters have correctly noted, this does not involve a STATE court decision -- the California Supreme Court has already denied five different cases challenging this election. This time a FEDERAL court has stuck its nose into the people's business.

Bottom line: though the Torricelli non-decision by SCOTUS was an abomination, it is NOT relevant to the present situation.

John / Billybob

[Dan from Michigan]

Federal judges can't get recalled. :(

[Cooter]

How does this ruling (if upheld) square with Article II of the California Constitution, which states:

SEC. 15. (a) An election to determine whether to recall an officer and, if appropriate, to elect a successor shall be called by the Governor and held not less than 60 days nor more than 80 days from the date of certification of sufficient signatures.

Wouldn't moving the recall election to March violate the California constitution?

[aristeides]

According to the Supreme Court, it should be O'Conner:

O'Connor (as a former state legislator) is in general very concerned about states' rights. (She typically joins the conservatives on the court for federalism decisions.) I doubt if she will be happy about this.

[Uncle Hal]

These are the same machines we have used for years. They are the ones that got Gray elected last November. Shall we nullify that election as well?

[BurbankKarl]

it is because they have never used punched-card ballots in Mexico....of course everyone on this thread can figure them out...

[My2Cents]

Minority voters would be disenfranchised due to old equipment.

Our county has used those old machines forever, and it was never a problem for us -- just check to make sure all the chad had fallen away. Basically, the court is saying that some minorities are too stupid to vote effectively.

[Peach]

Re the foreign policy aspect:FNC said the ruling from the 9th Circuit said something along the lines of "when other countries around the world are trying to have free and open elections, it would tip the scales to have the recall go forward."

[ejo]

" they used the same equipment at Davis' election.

If that is so, then technically he is NOT the present governor.....Coincidence that clinton was in town and judges come up with this idiotic ruling.

[Tree of Liberty]

It wasn't a "vote" to have the recall. State law requires a certain number of signatures, and when that number is reached, a recall election is triggered.

[prairiebreeze]

OTOH, if the 9th ruling stands, roughly two-thirds of voting Californians will be PO'd and feel disenfranchised. The Dems will be the ones viewed as overturning the people's will. Davis will continue to mismanage the state, and the result will be an angry electorate in '04.

This may be true, but attention spans are limited. Time will dilute the issue I believe. And time is on the side of the liberals it seems.

Prairie

[pepsionice]

My guess is that they can keep this in court for at least 90 days. If they accomplish this...you can forget about any recall in the future. This will be the last one if they are successful.