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To: ChemistCat
I don't suppose you ever actually READ the Bible, did you?

Let he who is without sin....?

Lots of FReepers think they are without sin, I guess. Wonderful for them.

It didn't say "Let he who has LESS sin by their own reckoning cast the first stone..."
 
Well, let's read the WHOLE story and not yank things outta context..........
 
 
 
John 8:3-11
 3.  The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group
 4.  and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
 5.  In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"
 6.  They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.   But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.
 7.  When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
 8.  Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
 9.  At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.
 10.  Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
 11.  "No one, sir," she said.   "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."
It's amazing how many people 'know' the first phrase, but COMPLETELY ignore the SECOND!
 


 
Jesus NEVER said that she WASN'T sinning!!  He was pointing out to the Pharisee's that THEIR claim, of having no sin, was bogus: they KNEW that their sins ALSO warrented death!
 
Jesus does NOT condemn us, we manage to do that all by our selves. 
 
HE came to make a way for us to ESCAPE the consequences of our sins.

94 posted on 09/14/2003 7:16:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Don't believe every prophecy you hear: especially *** ones........)
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To: Elsie
That admonishment to the woman to forsake her sins was delivered AFTER her accusers were already gone. That means that that part is between her and the Lord. Period. The accusers were no less in the wrong. They were told they must be without sin to cast stones at her.

I didn't yank anything out of context--I thoroughly understand the passage and its implications for those of us who want to persecute someone who has sinned. Jesus sent THEM off first. He made sure she was safe. THEN He told her to knock it off. First things first.

Nobody is going to give up homosexuality because they are attacked; it's human nature to hold tighter to your sin rather than give it up because some other PERSON told you to.
100 posted on 09/14/2003 7:24:28 PM PDT by ChemistCat (I have two daughters. I know peacemaking. What we're doing in Israel ain't it.)
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To: Elsie
And to add:

To say that all men are sinners is to deny the Blood. All men have sinned and without Forgiveness are condemn by their own actions. But a man can be sin free.

I am free of sin at the point of Forgiveness and all that entails.

Christ never told us not to judge, but to meet requirements before we judge. He pointed out the hypocrisy of the crowd, who lived in sin (what was written in the dust?) and proceeded to judge others.

Our judgments are nothing more than determining who is and who is not obeying the Law G_d has already laid down. G_d has already made the judgment.
133 posted on 09/15/2003 1:54:46 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (SELECT * FROM liberals WHERE clue > 0 .............................................. 0 rows returned)
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