Gay dads want their son to grow up straight

The Sun-Herald, Sydney, Australia ^ | September 14, 2003 | By Candace Sutton and Larry Schwartz

[ChemistCat]

I have views on behavior. I think that promiscuity is worse than homosexuality. You probably think "Friends"-type behavior is okay so long as it's straight. I think promiscuity damages the family the most.

[wardaddy]

You musn't criticize shop lifters Tex unless you too are pure of sin in the eyes of God.

[Paul Atreides]

Besides, since people take things out of hotel rooms then a person should not be criticized for being a shoplifter.

[kidd]

This is a case of adults fulfilling their own desires, but it is the children who suffer

This line of the article says it best.

[wardaddy]

I think that promiscuity is worse than homosexuality.

Tell me why.

Are you for homosexual marriage as well?

Homosexual priests?

The whole Homo-enchilada?

[88keys]

IMHO...how much more difficult will it be than the the "usual household" for two moms or two dads to raise a child? What are the odds of the child not being "stigmatized"?

Again, JMO, but I have real concerns about the welfare and well-being of children who have such "alternative families"...and not because gay "parents" are "bad" parents, but because "gay" is far outside the "mainstream", still, like it or not. Check out your typical "3rd grade peer group", or any other "typical peer group"...

One last "IMHO"...I even have mixed feelings about gay couples adopting "at risk" and unwanted children, although I'm sure these children could benefit from any opportunity at a decent life...but for gay folks to go through all kinds of machinations to create their "own" children (which they obviously can't do themselves, despite how loving their relationship is) seems the height of self-gratification. Who of us out there, no matter how sympathetic to our friends, would be be proud to say "this is my dad/mom, and this is my other dad/mom, but I don't really know my real birth mom/dad"????

[mountaineer]

Baby hasn't made three for actor B.D. Wong and his partner, Richie Jackson. We hear the couple has split - barely three months after Wong published "Finding Foo," an account of the difficult premature birth of their son, Foo, now 3.

"B.D. has moved out of their condo," says a source, "but apparently it's amicable. B.D. has taken another apartment nearby, to be close to their son."

Jackson, who has served as Wong's agent, didn't return calls.

Wong is known for his work on "Oz" and "Law and Order: Special Victims Unit." He is currently reprising his role as a lead voice talent on "Mulan II," the sequel to Disney's successful 1998 animated movie.

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My prayers are with all of these poor children.

[wardaddy]

I'm sorry Paul, I cannot form an opinion today.

I happened to have glanced at the bare tanned ankle of a young woman in church this morning and had a nanosecond glimmer of impure thought and hence have sinned today and have thereby default excluded myself from forming opinions on behavior for today...much less acknowledging ...judgement.

All bad behavior gets a pass from me today.

[OldPossum]

Great post (#14). You certainly did a fantastic job of trying to straighten out Chemist Cat's thinking on this matter.

I thought this was an unusual post by CC, whose comments on other matters are usually very well-reasoned. I don't know what happened this time.

[Byron_the_Aussie]

..this line of the article says it best....

Yes. This line's revealing, too:

....William Halms, of Growing Generations, says costs are so high he calls his own three children who were born in the program, "$75,000 babies"....

...the subtext being, 'we must be sincere. Look how much we're paying.'

[Paul Atreides]

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but I think that it bars you from making opinionated statements for the rest of your life.

[AppyPappy]

I think promiscuity damages the family the most.

Welcome to the world of homosexuality

[george wythe]

I think that promiscuity is worse than homosexuality

I agree with you.

Premarital sex and adultery are greater threats to the family than the 2-per-cent-of-the-population-are-homosexual sex

My wife cheating on me is much worse than what Betty and Jane might do in their house when they get tired of watching TV.

[Texas Eagle]

I don't suppose you ever actually READ the Bible, did you?

You mean like cover to cover? No.

Let he who is without sin....? K/I>

Let me finish that verse for you. It says "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone. And when He looked up all the men were gone so he asked the woman. Is there noone here to condemn you? 'Noone, sir.' So Jesus said, neither do I condemn you. Now GO AND SIN NO MORE.

Lots of FReepers think they are without sin, I guess. Wonderful for them.

Oh, so you're a mind-reader, eh? Are you related to Miss Cleo?

It didn't say "Let he who has LESS sin by their own reckoning cast the first stone..."

First, that phrase wasn't spoken by an "it". B) Refer to my previous post about how that verse ends. It never ceases to amuse me how the homophobophobes fail to acknowledge how Jesus ends that encounter with the prostitute. (GASP!) Am I comparing homosexuality to prostitution?!

The gay people I've known were not obnoxious about it.

It's not about the men who engage in homosexual acts. It's about the kid.

So I don't hate them. Sorry about that.

I didn't say you did. But, hey, even if you did, I'd forgive you.

[maxwell]

You musn't criticize shop lifters Tex unless you too are pure of sin in the eyes of God.

BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAAAA...

[Houmatt]

Oh, so only people without sin can criticize another's behavior, eh?

We don't have the right to judge, huh?

Then what in the name of all that is holy do we have people locked up in prison?

If ChemistCat says we cannot judge people, then we must open those prison doors and free everyone at once!

[Texas Eagle]

You musn't criticize shop lifters Tex unless you too are pure of sin in the eyes of God.

Forgive me, Father for I have...ummmm.....errrr...I....criticized someone.

[and the horse you rode in on]

They can't be good parents. Every child needs a mother and a father and without that the child is being deprived of what is natural and normal.

So, if your mate dies, you instantly become a bad parent?
How many days past the funeral do you have to pick a new partner before you becoma a bad parrent?

[Texas Eagle]

If ChemistCat says we cannot judge people, then we must open those prison doors and free everyone at once!

And let them take turns adopting his daughters.

[bitcon]

I don't think she is. She's the woman who carried the baby to term but I believe the egg came from a separate donor and that woman would be the mother.