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Are You a Christopher Hitchens Democrat? (Liberals Mugged by 9/11 -- now support Bush)
Right Wing News ^ | 9/12/2003 | John Hawkins

Posted on 09/12/2003 8:04:33 PM PDT by Political Numbers Guy

The Christopher Hitchens Democrats

Yesterday, Lawrence F. Kaplan published an editorial in the WSJ subtitled, ""How did fighting terrorism become a Republican cause"?

Some Democrats may think that's unfair, but honestly I think Kaplan's right on target. For whatever reason, about 1/3rd to 1/2 of the Democratic party, maybe even more, seem to almost dogmatically opposed to every attempt that's being made to defend America. They battle even the mildest security measures because they claim it'll create a police state. They incessantly complain about any increases in military or intelligence funding. Furthermore, they are dead-set against attacks on America's enemies, although they're clearly not pacifists given that they happily back using America's military in places we have no interest, like Somalia, Bosnia, & Liberia. In fact, their positions often have more in common with those of America's enemies than people concerned about our national defense-- at least when it comes to defending our country. Even the shock of 9/11 was only enough to shake them out of their stupor for a short period of time, just long enough for us to go after Afghanistan.

Fortunately, there are a lot of Democrats who are as nauseated by these people as the rest of us. I think of Democrats who are willing to cross party lines to vote GOP based on national security as Christopher Hitchens Democrats. Well, you can add another name to the ranks of the "Christopher Hitchens Democrats" -- former NYC mayor Ed Koch. Listen to what he had to say on CNN today...

KOCH: ...But also, there you've got the media attacking Ashcroft for wanting to have the Patriot Act, which gave him additional tools extended. Now, you can discuss individual provisions that you may think are not worthy of being extended, but the people who are smearing Ashcroft and smearing the law, they're nuts. Their lives are in danger, too, but they don't care.

KOCH: ...Howard Dean is "McGovern 2," the worst. And I believe that his support comes from that one-third of the Democratic Party that is ultra-left. And everybody knows that.

BLITZER: Well, what about Joe Lieberman?

KOCH: I like Joe Lieberman. He came to see me when he was deciding whether or not to run. And I said, I love you, you are the conscious of the United States Senate, go back there because if you run for president you're going to lose. I'm voting for Bush. I told him that.

BLITZER: All right, that's good. Ed Koch, we heard it here.

KOCH: And I don't have to agree with the domestic program of Bush. I don't.

As Koch said, he probably disagrees with Bush on most things not related to the war on terrorism, but he understands that Bush is determined to defend America and the Democrats aren't. That's a fundamental difference between Bush and someone like Howard Dean or John Kerry and I have to think that there are a lot of Democrats who understand that and are going to vote accordingly in 2004.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush2004; christopherhitchens; democratsforbush; epiphany; expandingfreepdom; gwb2004; hitchens; muggedby911; president
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1 posted on 09/12/2003 8:04:34 PM PDT by Political Numbers Guy
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To: William McKinley; Imal; Nick Danger; Dan from Michigan; JulieRNR21; MeeknMing; AntiJen; ...
Link to John Hawkins insightful piece on another group that is changing American politics: Democrats disgusted by Dean and the party's defeatist mentality toward terror who are now supporting Bush, even now, two years after 9/11.

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2 posted on 09/12/2003 8:10:37 PM PDT by Political Numbers Guy ("We love freedom -- and we're not going to change." -- Pres. George W. Bush)
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To: Political Numbers Guy
Unfortunately, there are still too many non-Hitchens Dems.
3 posted on 09/12/2003 8:11:20 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (Faster, Better, Cheaper. 2 out of 3 is the best you'll get!)
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To: Political Numbers Guy
Liberals make common cause with anyone, including Islamofascists, who wish to defeat Western Civilization, because both require its overthrow to implement their respective dystopias.
4 posted on 09/12/2003 8:12:25 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (This Islamofascism has been brought to you by Saudi Arabia!)
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To: Brad Cloven
Correct. The US will always be Enemy Number One for Liberals. You will never find a Liberal who hates Bin Laden or Saddam or Kim Jong-Il (if he hates them at all) as much as he hates Bush or Ashcroft or Cheney. They don't even bother to disguise it.
5 posted on 09/12/2003 8:21:08 PM PDT by speedy
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To: Political Numbers Guy
I just WISH to God there were more dems like Mr. Koch!! Only a handful would honestly cross over for the sake of America's future! So terribly sad! These people are the by- product of our school system and media liberal WHROES! This country is SO divided, I wonder what kinda of a future my children and grandkids will have....SCARY STUFF!
6 posted on 09/12/2003 8:22:32 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Brad Cloven
Liberals make common cause with anyone, including Islamofascists, who wish to defeat Western Civilization, because both require its overthrow to implement their respective dystopias.

And this is what convinces me that they are just too stupid to live. Because if America's defenses crumbled and the liberals and the muslims were fighting for what's left, the muslims would win. And guess who'd be the first ones they'd round up and bludgeon to death? Mouthy leftist women and the In Your Face gays, and little Mr. Intellectual Freedom Marxists would be the next layer in the moldering mass graves.

Well, I guess that's the silver lining of this particular cloud.

7 posted on 09/12/2003 8:26:09 PM PDT by wizardoz (Bomb Hollywood!)
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To: All
Howard Stern says he supports Bush, as well. And I know he supported Gore before and was really quite nasty. He's turned around.

I think liberalism was a temporary blip on the USA radar. We're a conservative country. We have to clean it up a lot. And the repubs need to stop getting cozy with illegals or else it's game over.
8 posted on 09/12/2003 8:49:20 PM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: Political Numbers Guy
Thanks for the ping, and please keep me on the list.
9 posted on 09/12/2003 9:14:02 PM PDT by NYC Republican
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To: wizardoz
Check out the Article posted about a University putting up flags in its classrooms. The leftist comments in that article will make your blood boil.
10 posted on 09/12/2003 9:20:20 PM PDT by vpintheak (Our Liberties we prize, and our rights we will maintain!)
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To: .cnI redruM
Unfortunately, there are still too many non-Hitchens Dems.

I suspect that there are many, many ordinary Americans who are registered democrats who will be voting for President Bush in '04. I think that the democrats will be stunned by the number of registered democrats who will vote for Bush.

These people love their country and believe the garbage that the democrats are for the little guy and in ordinary times will vote the 'rat ticket. But these aren't ordinary times, and these are good people who understand the need to defend our country.

There's one woman in particular that I know who is a democrat. She defended Clinton. She bought into that whole it's about sex stuff, and she doesn't particularly like Republicans.

She told me that she's sickened by the way the democrats are lying about President Bush. The only news she watches is the liberal, mainstream news, but she sees through it. I have to believe that she's not atypical.

11 posted on 09/12/2003 9:21:26 PM PDT by alnick
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To: Political Numbers Guy
Koch was always a pretty decent guy, especially for a New York politician. I never voted for him, but I respected him.
12 posted on 09/12/2003 9:40:54 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: vpintheak
Check out the Article posted about a University putting up flags in its classrooms. The leftist comments in that article will make your blood boil.

My blood's been boiling for 2 years and 2 days now. I'm afraid one more leftist comment and it'll just evaporate away entirely.

13 posted on 09/12/2003 10:04:40 PM PDT by wizardoz (Bomb Hollywood!)
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To: RoseofTexas
I just WISH to God there were more dems like Mr. Koch!! Only a handful would honestly cross over for the sake of America's future! So terribly sad! These people are the by- product of our school system and media liberal WHROES! This country is SO divided, I wonder what kinda of a future my children and grandkids will have....SCARY STUFF!

Amen! Koch may be a leftie, but he is from a generation that PUT AMERICA ABOVE PARTISAN POLITICS. The Hippie/Yippie Generation raised in the 1950s/1960s believe in the exact reverse.

It used to be "Don't trust anyone over 30". Perhaps now it should be "Don't trust anyone under 70."

14 posted on 09/12/2003 10:21:54 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Political Numbers Guy
I heard that interview and couldn't believe what I was hearing. A politician, who is a democrat, actually siding with our President. If not unprecedented, it's certainly rare.
15 posted on 09/12/2003 10:25:57 PM PDT by Graybeard58 (Never be afraid to try something new. Amateurs built the ark. Professionals built the Titanic)
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To: Political Numbers Guy
Thanks.
16 posted on 09/12/2003 10:30:43 PM PDT by 185JHP ( "This Train don't carry no scammers - no AlSharptons, no midnight ramblers - This Train.")
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To: Political Numbers Guy
I heard Koch say all of this. Did my heart good.
17 posted on 09/12/2003 10:35:12 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: speedy
You mean ALL the liberals in this country DON'T hate bin Laden, Saddam Hussein or Kim Jong-Il? Does that mean all 50 million who voted for Gore? I had no idea.
18 posted on 09/12/2003 10:44:06 PM PDT by halfdome
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
And don't forget Britney Spears. We should be proud to have her on our side.
19 posted on 09/12/2003 10:45:15 PM PDT by halfdome
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To: Political Numbers Guy
The significant player here is Koch, not Hitchens. Koch signals the Jewish vote. If Dean is nominated we could see a tetonic shift in this important block's voting pattern. I do not believe Dean can do enough Mea Culpas after his ill chosen remarks about Israel.

The significance is more than just Jewish voting power, it means that Republicans gain a kind of legitimacy in many circles which shape opinion which Republicans have not enjoyed since Herbet Hoover. It changes entirely the landscape for fund raising.

It makes it socially acceptable in places like Manhattan to be a Republican. OK,Ok I know, but Manhattan is the seat of media, publishing and finance.

Could Academia be next?
20 posted on 09/12/2003 11:42:10 PM PDT by nathanbedford (qqua)
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