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California Recall Daily Thread(9/12/2003): 25 Days To Go
California Recall Daily Thread: Up To The Minute News ^ | 9.12.2003 | DoctorZin

Posted on 09/12/2003 8:57:12 AM PDT by DoctorZIn

In just 25 days, the people of California will choose a Governor and as a result set a course that will affect the future of the state and our country in profound ways. This thread has been created to keep us all informed of the important developments.

I invite you to post all the major recall stories here or if it has already been posted, then add links to these posts. We welcome discussions of the candidates, the issues, campaign strategy, the polls, etc. Please be civil in your comments.

If you want to be added to a ping list on the recall please freepmail me and make sure you mention that you want to be added to the "recall ping list." I will ping you once daily at the start of the thread and occasionally if there is major breaking news.

DoctorZin


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; bustamante; california; crdt; davis; election; huffington; mcclintock; prop54; proposition54; recall; schwarzenegger; simon; ueberroth
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California recall election leader feeling the heat: Cruz Bustamante has slim lead among pollsters

Reuters ^ | 9-11 | Reuters
Posted on 09/12/2003 5:51 PM PDT by ambrose

Reuters, News Report,
Dan Whitcomb, Sep 11, 2003

LOS ANGELES - Before California's recall election, Cruz Bustamante, the state's Lieutenant Governor, was just a portly bureaucrat with little name recognition. Now he suddenly finds himself with a slim lead among pollsters and is feeling the heat....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981578/posts
61 posted on 09/12/2003 10:08:04 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Caption Clinton and Davis

AFP / Yahoo ^ | 09/12/2003 | Tim Sloan (photographer)
Posted on 09/12/2003 6:46 PM PDT by dighton

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981595/posts

62 posted on 09/12/2003 10:08:44 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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With poll numbers rising, Davis finds friends in high places; Bill Clinton to campaign for Davis

Associated Press ^ | 09-12-03
Posted on 09/12/2003 6:55 PM PDT by Brian S

BETH FOUHY, Associated Press Writer Friday, September 12, 2003
(09-12) 18:42 PDT SAN FRANCISCO (AP) --

When former President Clinton arrives in California to campaign with Gov. Gray Davis on Sunday, he will be the first in a long line of Democratic heavyweights scheduled to stump for the governor between now and the Oct. 7 recall election....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981599/posts
63 posted on 09/12/2003 10:09:32 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Schwarzenegger, McClintock prepare to make case to GOP convention

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Spet. 12, 2003 | ERICA WERNER
Posted on 09/12/2003 7:13 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Prodded by many Republicans to pull out of the gubernatorial recall race, state Sen. Tom McClintock found strength Friday in new poll numbers that show him gaining on both Arnold Schwarzenegger and Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981604/posts
65 posted on 09/12/2003 10:11:40 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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McClintock Gains Have Calif. Republicans Wary

Reuters ^ | 09-12-03
Posted on 09/12/2003 7:32 PM PDT by Brian S

Fri September 12, 2003 09:16 PM ET By Gina Keating

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A poll on Friday showed that Arnold Schwarzenegger is facing increasing competition from state Sen. Tom McClintock in the California governor's race, heightening tension ahead of a convention at which the actor must win support from conservative Republicans....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981613/posts
66 posted on 09/12/2003 10:12:24 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Californians Rally Behind Arnold Schwarzenegger in Cyberspace

Schwarzenegger.com ^ | Sept. 9, 2003 | AS News
Posted on 09/12/2003 9:08 PM PDT by FairOpinion

In just six days, more than 3,500 Californians registered on Meetup.com to attend Arnold Schwarzenegger for Governor meetings across the Golden State, instantly making the Schwarzenegger meetings one of the most popular political destinations on the Web site....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981646/posts
67 posted on 09/12/2003 10:13:08 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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California to give free college to illegals

San Francisco Gate ^ | 9-12 | Buchanonite
Posted on 09/12/2003 10:02 PM PDT by buchanonite

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981662/posts
68 posted on 09/12/2003 10:13:56 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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(CA) State Senate approves health insurance bill

The Orange County Register ^ | Friday, September 12, 2003 | By HANH KIM QUACH
Posted on 09/12/2003 3:42 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket

The California Senate voted 24 to 14 today to require employers to provide health coverage for up to 1.5 million uninsured California workers, sending the measure to the state Assembly for action.

The Assembly has until midnight to adopt SB2....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981520/posts
69 posted on 09/12/2003 10:15:00 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Why do some recall voters get to vote twice? (Vanity)

12 Sep 2003 | SpyGuy
Posted on 09/12/2003 6:15 PM PDT by SpyGuy

Ok, follow this logic:

If a voter votes "No" on the California recall, they are in fact placing a de-facto vote for Davis. So why do they also get to vote for a follow-up candidate if their primary candidate (Davis) loses the election?

It seems to me that if people chose to vote against the recall, then they should not be allowed to also vote for a potential replacement in the event that the recall is successful. (Btw, I would argue the same point if this were a recall against an incumbent conservative.)

I'm being serious here. Does anyone know why this loophole exists? ....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981584/posts
70 posted on 09/12/2003 10:16:11 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Hugh Hewitt Lays Down the Gauntlet to Tombots

Hugh Hewitt's Website ^ | September 12, 2003 | Hugh Hewitt
Posted on 09/12/2003 6:40 PM PDT by DiamondDon1

The following resolution is proposed by Hugh Hewitt:

Proposed resolution from the floor at the California State Republican Convention: "Resolved, that if the vote totals on October 8 are Cruz 40%, Arnold 39.5% and Tom 6%, that it is Tom's fault that Cruz is the new governor." Now that would be a debate worth broadcasting on C-SPAN. Odds are that the Tombots would deny they are pulling a Thelma and [Louise] sic, even under those circumstances....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981591/posts
71 posted on 09/12/2003 10:16:40 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Schwarzenegger says no to debate with McClintock

San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 9/13/2003 | John Wildermuth
Posted on 09/12/2003 10:31 PM PDT by polyiguana

Los Angeles -- Actor Arnold Schwarzenegger refused Friday to debate his top Republican rival, state Sen. Tom McClintock, saying it would not fit into his strategy for winning the recall replacement election Oct. 7.

"I'm not going to go around and respond to individual challenges," Schwarzenegger said outside a Los Angeles manufacturing plant. "I have a plan to become the next governor of the state of California, and the best way to do that is to stay on course." ....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981668/posts
72 posted on 09/12/2003 10:38:00 PM PDT by DoctorZIn
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State Sen. Tom McClintock, R-Northridge, points to a chart showing projected cost of  workers compensation insurance rates, during a debate over a package of bills to reform workers compensation insurance held at the Capitol in Sacramento, Calif., Friday, Sept. 12 2003. In the final hours of this years legislative session lawmakers approved the package of eight bills that Democrats say would cut the cost of treating job-related injuries by at least 20 percent. (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)
Fri Sep 12,11:12 PM ET

State Sen. Tom McClintock, R-Northridge, points to a chart showing projected cost of workers compensation insurance rates, during a debate over a package of bills to reform workers compensation insurance held at the Capitol in Sacramento, Calif., Friday, Sept. 12 2003. In the final hours of this years legislative session lawmakers approved the package of eight bills that Democrats say would cut the cost of treating job-related injuries by at least 20 percent. (AP Photo/Rich Pedroncelli)

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Tom debates for a living.

Arnold speaks from scripts and avoids debates.

Who is more qualified and capable?


73 posted on 09/13/2003 12:02:54 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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Right-leaning 'ideologue' known for his commitment to principle [McClintock]

Sfgate.com ^ | 9-12 | Sfgate
Posted on 09/12/2003 11:12 PM PDT by ambrose

Carolyn Lochhead, Chronicle Washington Bureau
Saturday, September 13, 2003
©2003 San Francisco Chronicle | Feedback

URL: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2003/09/13/CONSERVE.TMP

Washington -- Like British soccer fans, Tom McClintock's hard-core conservative supporters sound like they would rather burn down the stadium than switch their loyalty to Arnold Schwarzenegger, even if it means losing California's governorship to someone who makes Gov. Gray Davis look like a Republican....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981676/posts
74 posted on 09/13/2003 1:08:52 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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California G.O.P. Dealing With Split Over 2 Top Contenders (Schwarzenegger, McClintock)

NY Times ^ | Sept. 12, 2003 | CHARLIE LeDUFF
Posted on 09/12/2003 11:36 PM PDT by FairOpinion

OS ANGELES, Sept. 12 — The governor's office may be within its grasp, but the state Republican Party convened here today facing a growing split over whom to support as a successor to Gov. Gray Davis....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981681/posts
75 posted on 09/13/2003 1:10:56 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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Stanford Poll: Terminator in Lead to Become Gubernator

Silicone Valley / Business Journal ^ | 09/08/2003
Posted on 09/12/2003 9:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne

LATEST NEWS
3:21 PM PDT Thursday

Republican Arnold Schwarzenegger beats Democratic Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante in the Oct. 7 election to replace Gov. Gray Davis, according to results of a Stanford University online survey of California voters. The Stanford poll, taken Aug. 29 to Sept. 8, is the first public poll to put the movie actor ahead of the career politician.


Unlike conventional telephone polls, which have reported Mr. Bustamante leading the recall race, Californians who participated in the online survey voted 40 percent for Schwarzenegger and 28 percent for the lieutenant governor. Among registered voters, 62 percent indicated "yes" for the recall and 38 percent said "no."

Poll results have a 4.3 percent margin of error....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/981661/posts?page=1,50
76 posted on 09/13/2003 10:38:02 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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77 posted on 09/13/2003 10:45:22 AM PDT by DoctorZIn
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