C'mon. No contest. Don't make me drag stiper sniper in to this.
Posted on 09/11/2003 8:54:22 PM PDT by Eric Hogue 1380 KTKZ
I'm hearing from a 'solid source' that State Senator Tom McClintock has been offered a deal by the Arnold Schwarzenegger camp.
From what was offered to me, McClintock would become a State Controller by proxy - heading up a blue ribbon committee - overseeing the audit of the state's budget and financial matters.
(Excerpt) Read more at ktkz.com ...
C'mon. No contest. Don't make me drag stiper sniper in to this.
Then take a look at this (the Meyers-Briggs Personality Type Chart...ENTJ ("The Executive"):
The ENTJ has a tremendous amount of personal power and presence which will work for them as a force towards achieving their goals. However, this personal power is also an agent of alienation and self-aggrandizement, which the ENTJ would do well to avoid.
ENTJs are very forceful, decisive individuals. They make decisions quickly, and are quick to verbalize their opinions and decisions to the rest of the world. The ENTJ who has not developed their Intuition will make decisions too hastily, without understanding all of the issues and possible solutions. On the other hand, an ENTJ who has not developed their Thinking side will have difficulty applying logic to their insights, and will often make poor decisions. In that case, they may have brilliant ideas and insight into situations, but they may have little skill at determining how to act upon their understanding, or their actions may be inconsistent. An ENTJ who has developed in a generally less than ideal way may become dictatorial and abrasive - intrusively giving orders and direction without a sound reason for doing so, and without consideration for the people involved.
It goes on for a while at the page, but please take a look and see if it doesn't fit Arnold! to a "T".
Arnold is like a dot com CEO. He'll tell you anything to get you onboard and committed. And he'll go to the next guy and tell him exactly what he wants to hear, too. That's why everyone is coming away from him believing what they want to believe, without really assessing the full situation in consideration of the psychological profile of Arnold! himself.
The bottom line is Arnold! has every telltale sign of saying anything he needs to, to get in power the quick and dirty way...
I would urge you to re-evaluate your take on Arnold!, even if you do think McC and his supporters are crazed political nomads.
| From what was offered to me, McClintock would become a State Controller by proxy - heading up a blue ribbon committee - overseeing the audit of the state's budget and financial matters. From my sources, it seems that Tom McClintock would remain as the State Senator for District 19 while he was directing this committee. The Arnold Administration would want him to find the waste, complete the audit and offered solutions to fix the problems for California.
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Unity is Strength.
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Your clairvoyance meter needs calibrating. I don't know you. How could I possibly "hate [you] personally"?
I don't.
Having said that, there is one thing I don't like: You seem to believe that the way to get McClintock elected is by being unfair to Schwarzenegger...but you know what? McClintock himself has been unfair to Schwarzenegger, so maybe you're simply modeling your candidate. I don't know what the answer is for you guys, but I know that isn't it.
Good for you, but you're ignoring that tail-walking giant who could feed most of (R)nold's family below the walleye. Salmon are good but blues are gold. And the dolphin you catch finding them are almost as good.
Come over to the dark side; McClintock supports your irrepressible habit without the feel-good "environmentalism" that (R)nold mouths to the peripedophiles in San Franciso.
Did I mention grouper?
Back to this again for just a moment, in light of Arnold!'s ENTJ personality, I think you and the legion of Arnold! supporters on FR are projecting your hopes on a relative unknown and untried quantity (in terms of political track record and experience). Sure, life would be wonderful if we could all just get together and BELIEVE that Arnold! actually *is* what he is so obviously trying to project himself as.
But what if ... we wake up the day after Oct. 7, and suddenly, "my audit team opened the books, and things are much worse than we thought, so we need to declare a fiscal emergency and the only way we can handle this crisis is to raise taxes"? Come on, everyone here has seen Arnold duck hard questions, debates, pledge signing, and so on-- in addition to his social liberalism and relatively wild personal lifestyle.
You wanna know the truth? The truth is that neither you, nor I, nor anyone else has a good notion of what Arnold! is going to do if/when he is elected, in contrast to McC's 25 year history of being on message and on target.
We folks that actually live here in California don't need a "rock star" for a governor. We need a guy with a proven track record of fiscal conservativism; a technician who can deal effectively with the legislature and won't pull any tricks. The recall has split the Demos wide open, pitting Busta against Davis and vice versa. They are like bugs placed on their backsides, their legs flailing in the air and not gaining any traction; ripe for the squishing. Any single Repub. of nominal stature or more can take them down with ease, by getting face time from solid party backing, and then pounding the message to the people.
Life is not without risk but I would rather term this an opportunity, and one not to be missed.
Sorry for the length... we now return the forum and this thread to it's regular pro-Arnold! frequency... ;-)
Several dozen posts ago somewhere I analyzed Bustamante's political position. OK, it may be just my personalized fantasy projection, but I think he is toast politically no matter what he does now, because he broke (D) ranks and ran as a (Y) on recall alternative. Because he broke ranks, he really does not have the support of party leaders, at least not any more. He is fighting an uphill charge and he has started to chug badly. Look how he changed his message just this weekend. He has little to no credibility with a solid majority of voters, who are already backed up against a wall since they are sick of Davis too.
There is the blue sky opening for a conservative Republican candidate.
It probably only occurs once every 30 years or so, but it is there.
McClintock was primed to fill the gap, but Arnold!, Mr. Popularity, entered and so far has cut him off. That would be OK if Arnold! had a clear, moderate-to-conservative platform and was willing to be straightforward and debate alongside other big (R) and assorted rival party candidates.
But Arnold! ducked on all of this, and here we are today and now. I think it is like we are all dressed up but nowhere to go. The noises I hear emanating from Arnold! signify to me that there's not a dime's worth of difference in practice (sorry to borrow the Wallace phrase but it has that certain historical ring to it). I'm guessing that this same noise is what all McClintock supporters have in common-- the sense of being imminently scr*wed, big time, when victory would otherwise have been a relatively straightforward shot.
It must be past your bedtime if you're back there in some east coast timezone. Take care.
I'd put Tom's miraculous rollback of the car tax against all odds and his agressive position on several imminent initiatives next to the looming $38 B budget shortfall and Tom would come out as a success any day of the week.
I am almost a political junkie and until about 6 months ago he was just about totally under my radar. If that's true for me, shoot, I have no big problem believing it's true for most of Calif. voters.
I'll admit he's been around for a while but I do not fault his stance on the issues, I respect consistency and perserverance, and I do think California needs a strong dose of Tom-style whoop-@ss. I sincerely believe that I'm not alone out here.
(chirp... chirp... ;-)
Schwarzenegger has said repeatedly that he won't raise taxes. So there we are. Either you choose to believe him or you don't, and there is no power in the universe that can change your mind about the man if you don't believe him in the first place. If you don't believe him, then don't vote for him. Its really that simple.
I might still vote for him depending on the landscape in Oct, but just to teach you Zealots a hard lesson about the complexities of party politics and sellout out in adverse situations.
How is your one vote going to "teach" me about anything? And I'm not a zealot - I am another poster on FreeRepublic who believes that half a loaf now with the potential for a cornucopia of food later is better than none to a starving man.
I believe that you are a zealot.
How unfortunate that all 3 of you Know It Alls are from Out Of State.
Irrelevant. What happens in California affects the rest of the nation.
Now things are so different, and so dark.
If your sense of self-worth and mood are being this deeply affected by this recall election, then I believe that you should seek professional help. And I'm being completely serious about that - depression sucks. What you are describing is not normal.
I know all 3 of you hate me personally
I deny that. There's a vast difference between disagreeing with someone and hating them.
Bush has yet to address the issue of the downturn of economy and jobs in California. RNC telemarketers do not have it in their talking points when they call. So it's your argument that is irrelevant. Sheesh.
Thanks for that permission ;-)
Now maybe out of staters can stand up for just a little bit of fairness in the process and resist the temptation to kick a good conservative candidate who happens to be the underdog at the moment. (Oh well, I guess not, but it was worth a mention anyhow ;-)
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