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AFTER 12-YEAR STRUGGLE, MISSOURI SENATE OVERRIDES HOLDEN'S VETO TO PASS LICENSE-TO-CARRY INTO LAW!
Luke Skyfreeper reporting live
| September 11, 2003
| Luke Skyfreeper
Posted on 09/11/2003 12:48:32 PM PDT by Luke Skyfreeper
The Missouri Senate has JUST NOW OVERRIDDEN GOV. BOB HOLDEN'S VETO OF LICENSE-TO-CARRY, by the narrow margin of 23 to 11!
23 votes were required to override, and we barely made it -- but we made it.
We were helped out in key swing votes by Senator Jon Dolan, who flew in from military duty in Cuba for this and the abortion override vote, and also by Senator Michael Gibbons, who voted against the original bill. No one knew until today how Senator Gibbons would cast his vote.
These are certainly not the only Senators who deserve to be thanked. Senator Harold Caskey, Democrat Senator from District 31, has swum against the tide of many of his colleagues to provide tremendous, courageous leadership in this issue. Senators Peter Kinder and Sarah Steelman also come to mind as prominent supporters. And those who passed the override in the House deserve to be thanked as well, because without them we would never have reached this point.
TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; missouri
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To: Joe Brower
I still refuse to apply to some #&^$$*bureaucrat for my inherant right to protect my life!
To: Luke Skyfreeper
Congratulation from a neighbor in Kansas!!!!
(BTW, GO K-STATE)
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:05:11 PM PDT
by
Oldeconomybuyer
(The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
To: Tribune7
House overrode the veto yesterday.
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:05:17 PM PDT
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: Tribune7
the House voted yesterday - its a done deal.
Gov. Holden is a POS
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:05:50 PM PDT
by
rface
(Ashland, Missouri)
To: Johnny Gage
I haven't read the full text of the bill but I would imagine that there will be some of that sort of crap in there. Municipalities such as St. Louis and Kansas City will try to pass ordinances that restrict the measure.
25
posted on
09/11/2003 1:06:37 PM PDT
by
Lee Heggy
(Jealousy-The theory that some other fellow has just as little taste.)
To: Johnny Gage
If its been a 12 year fight I'd not think it was over bs.
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:06:56 PM PDT
by
Boxsford
To: Luke Skyfreeper
This is just awesome!
(I'm sure we'll se a tide of "the streets will run red with the blood of innocents!!" fearmongering editorials in the broadcast and print media, but let's not let that spoil our party).
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:07:57 PM PDT
by
GETMAIN
To: Luke Skyfreeper
Way to go, MO!! Nice job.
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:08:12 PM PDT
by
meyer
To: von Lettow
"I still refuse to apply to some #&^$$*bureaucrat for my inherant right to protect my life!" Which is all good and honorable.
In the broader sense, however, it is a good thing for a legislature to demonstrate it's trust of the people it supposedly represents and serves.
Plus this defeat is bound to give Holden high blood pressure. Maybe the good people of Missouri will get lucky. $;-)
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:10:14 PM PDT
by
Joe Brower
("History teaches us that man learns nothing from history." -- George Hegel)
To: July 4th
Now isn't Wisconsin only one of 5 that don't have Concealed Carry?
You know Doyle will Veto it, but can we override the veto?,after the property-tax freeze I have my doubts.
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:11:26 PM PDT
by
codercpc
To: GETMAIN
It's going to be tough for the likes of Luis Duigud (sp?) of the Star to write while their hiding under their beds.
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:12:25 PM PDT
by
Lee Heggy
(Jealousy-The theory that some other fellow has just as little taste.)
To: Johnny Gage
Private property rights are hardly "BEE-ESS".
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:14:17 PM PDT
by
Chemist_Geek
("Drill, R&D, and conserve" should be our watchwords! Energy independence for America!)
To: rface
personally I think you're giving one term bob too much credit...
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:18:44 PM PDT
by
ahadams2
(never show up for a gunfight with a knife, or any gun whose caliber doesn't start with at least .45)
To: Luke Skyfreeper
CONGRATULATIONS!!!We're planning to move there next spring.
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:19:09 PM PDT
by
facedown
(Armed in the Heartland)
To: rface; Blood of Tyrants
YESSSS!!!
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:20:23 PM PDT
by
Tribune7
To: Luke Skyfreeper
Congratulations to the people of MO from a guy in Illinois.
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:22:46 PM PDT
by
Mini-14
To: and the horse you rode in on
Once we get enough States converted we can try for a national concealed carry permit. Oh, heck. Why don't we go whole hog and pass a constitutional amendent that wouldn't even require a permit? We could call it, ummm, call it The Second Amendment! Whataya think?
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:24:36 PM PDT
by
LTCJ
To: and the horse you rode in on
The number of states that do NOT have concealed carry is getting smaller and smaller. Soon it will be NY, CA and IL.
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:24:50 PM PDT
by
Jerrybob
To: and the horse you rode in on
"Once we get enough States converted we can try for a national concealed carry permit." Slow down and be careful what you wish for. With a Federal permit, it could all go away very quickly as well. This is a state issue, anyway.
Another thing to consider is that in PA, I can carry almost everywhere (Federal property, schools excepted) and am not required to have training class. My 5 year permit is $17.00. I don't want some of the more onerous requirements that other states impose. The Feds will make it more difficult, not less.
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:25:49 PM PDT
by
Badray
(Molon Labe!)
To: Luke Skyfreeper
Now
this is precisely what can happen when you actually have a pair, and refuse to let the opposition dictate terms to you.
Bill Frist: call your office. :)
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posted on
09/11/2003 1:26:25 PM PDT
by
KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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