Posted on 09/11/2003 8:18:06 AM PDT by menotyu
Real (Good) News From Iraq
(also published in the Wall Street Journal 9/10/03)
Since we became responsible for setting a new course in Iraq after removing Saddam Hussein in April (and, actually, even before then), America has been hobbled in setting its policies toward Iraq by not knowing much about what everyday Iraqis really think. Are they on the side of the radical Islamists? What kind of government would they like for themselves? What is their attitude toward the U.S.? Do the Shiites hate us or love us? Could Iraq become another Iran under the ayatollahs? Are the people in the Sunni triangle the real problem?
Up to now we’ve only been able to guess. We’ve relied on anecdotal temperature-takings of the Iraqi public, and have particularly been at the mercy of images presented to us by the press. We all know that journalists have a bad news bias (10,000 schools being rehabbed is not news, one school blowing up is a weeklong feeding frenzy). And some of us who have spent time recently in Iraq (I was an embedded reporter during the war this spring) have been puzzled by the post-war news since then. The imagery being transmitted by the media this summer was gloomier than our own experiences in country seemed to merit, and more negative than what many individuals involved in reconstructing the nation have been showing and telling us since.
Well, finally we have some evidence as to where the truth may lie.
Working with Zogby International survey researchers, The American Enterprise magazine, which I edit, has just conducted the first scientific poll of the Iraqi public. Given the state of the country, this was not easy. Security problems delayed our intrepid fieldworkers several times. We labored at careful translations, regional samplings, and survey methods to make sure our results would accurately reflect the views of Iraq’s multifarious, long-suffering people. We consulted with Eastern European pollsters about the best methods for eliciting honest answers from people long conditioned to repressing their true sentiments.
Conducted in August, our survey was necessarily limited in scope, but it reflects a nationally representative sample of Iraqi views, as captured in four disparate cities: Basra (Iraq’s second largest, home to 1.7 million people, in the far south), Mosel (third largest, far north), Kirkuk (Kurdish-influenced oil city, fourth largest), and Ramadi (a resistance hotbed in the Sunni triangle). The results show that the Iraq public is more sensible, stable, and moderate than commonly portrayed, that the country is not so fanatical, seething, or disgusted with the United States after all.
* Iraqis are optimistic. Seven out of ten say they expect both their country and their personal lives will be better five years from now. On both fronts, 32 percent say things will become MUCH better.
* The toughest part of reconstructing their nation, Iraqis say by three to one, will be politics, not economics. They are nervous about democracy. Asked which is closer to their own view: “Democracy can work well in Iraq,” or “Democracy is a Western way of doing things,” five out of ten said democracy is Western and won’t work in Iraq. One out of ten weren’t sure. And four out of ten said democracy can work in Iraq.
There were interesting divergences. Sunnis were negative on democracy by more than 2:1, but, critically, the majority Shiites were as likely to say democracy would work for Iraqis as not. People age 18-29 are much more rosy about democracy than other Iraqis, and women are significantly more positive than men.
* Asked to name one country they would most like Iraq to model its new government on, after being offered five possibilities—neighbor and fellow Baathist republic Syria, neighbor and Islamic monarchy Saudi Arabia, neighbor and Islamist republic Iran, Arab lodestar Egypt, or the U.S.—the most popular model by far was the U.S. The U.S. was preferred as a model by 37 percent of Iraqis selecting from those five—more than neighboring Syria plus neighboring Iran plus Egypt, all put together. Saudi Arabia was in second place at 28 percent.
Again, there were important demographic splits. Younger adults are especially favorable toward the U.S., and Shiites are more admiring than Sunnis. Interestingly, Iraqi Shiites, who are co-religionists with Iranians, do not admire Iran’s Islamist government; the U.S. is six times more popular with them as a model for governance.
* Our interviewers inquired whether Iraq should have an Islamic government, or instead let all people practice their own religion. Only 33 percent want an Islamic government, a solid 60 percent say no. A vital detail: Shiites (whom Western reporters frequently portray as self-flagellating ayatollah-maniacs-in-waiting) are least receptive to the idea of an Islamic government, saying “No” by 66 to 27 percent. It is only among the minority Sunnis that there is interest in a religious state (they are split evenly on the question).
* Perhaps the strongest indication that an Islamic government won’t be part of Iraq’s future: The nation is thoroughly secularized. We asked how often our respondents had attended the Friday prayer over the previous month. Fully 43 percent said “Never.” It’s time to scratch Khomeini II from the Iraq critics’ list of morbid fears.
* You can also cross out Osama II. Fifty-seven percent of Iraqis with an opinion have an unfavorable view of Osama bin Laden—with 41 percent of them saying it is a VERY unfavorable view. (Women are especially down on him.) Except in the Sunni triangle (where the limited support that exists for bin Laden is heavily concentrated), negative views of the bearded one are actually quite lopsided in all parts of the country. And those opinions were collected before Iraqi police announced it was al-Qaeda members who killed scores of worshippers with a truck bomb in Najaf. There will be no safehouses for bin Laden in Iraq in the future.
* And, finally, you can write off the possibility of a Baath revival. We asked “Should Baath Party leaders who committed crimes in the past be punished, or should past actions be put behind us?” A thoroughly disgusted and unforgiving Iraqi public stated by 74% to 18% that Saddam’s henchmen should be punished.
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This new evidence on Iraqi opinion suggests the country is manageable. If the small number of militants conducting sabotage and murder inside the country can gradually be dispatched to paradise by American troopers (this is happening as steady progress is made in stage two of the Iraq war), then the mass of citizens living along the Tigris-Euphrates Valley are likely to make reasonably sensible use of their new freedom. “We will not forget it was the U.S. soldiers who liberated us from Saddam,” said Abid Ali, an auto repair shop owner in Sadr City last month.
None of this is to suggest that the task ahead for America will be simple. Inchoate anxiety toward the U.S. showed up when we asked Iraqis whether they thought the U.S. would help or hurt Iraq over a five-year period. By 50% to 36% they chose hurt over help.
This is fairly understandable; Iraqis have just lived through a war where Americans were (necessarily) flinging most of the ammunition. These experiences may explain why Iraqi women (who are more anti-military in all cultures) show up in our data as especially wary of the U.S. right now. War is never pleasant, though U.S. forces made heroic efforts to spare innocents in this one—as I illustrate with vivid first-hand examples in my just-published book about the battles.
Evidence of the comparative gentleness of this war can be seen in our poll. Less than 30 percent of our sample of Iraqis knew or heard of anyone killed in the spring fighting. Meanwhile, fully HALF knew some family member, neighbor, or friend who had been killed by Iraqi security forces during the years Saddam held power.
Perhaps the ultimate indication of how comfortable Iraqis are with America’s aims in their region came when we asked how long they would like to see American and British forces remain in their country: Six months? One year? Two years or more? Two thirds of those with an opinion urged that the coalition troops should stick around for at least another year or more.
We’re making headway in a benighted part of the world, America. Hang in there.
Karl Zinsmeister is editor in chief of The American Enterprise, and author of Boots on the Ground: A Month with the 82nd Airborne in the Battle for Iraq (just out from St. Martin’s Press), the first book published by one of the war’s embedded journalists.
I thought it was interesting that the first choice of the country that Iraqis wanted to emulate was the U.S.; I found it more interesting that the second choice was Saudi a Arabia. The two countries farthest from each other of the choices were the closest in numbers statistically.
That is rather strange. Maybe they like our porn , I just read on Drudge that the porn industry is thriving in Iraq. LOL
But if you look here, there are two findings from the same poll:
http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=FT.com/StoryFT/FullStory&c=StoryFT&cid=1059479720102&p=1012571727162
Asked whether in the next five years the US would "help" Iraq, 35.3 per cent said yes while 50 per cent said the US would "hurt" Iraq. Asked the same of the UN, the figures were almost reversed, with 50.2 per cent saying it would help and 18.5 per cent the opposite.
Regarding US and British troops, some 31 per cent wanted them to leave in six months and a total of 65.5 per cent in a year. Some 25 per cent said they should stay two years or more.
And don't underestimate a determined minority regarding the imposition of an Islamic government. Supposedly, only a third of colonial American wanted to be independent from Britain.
I disagree.
Polls taken in the 1950s showed these same results. America was the most-favored nation to emulate among Arabs. I read this right here on FR.
Why didn't they then ?
Some 40+years have past with the Arab region stagnating while other areas of the globe have left them in the dust.
Something on the order of an intervention (like with alcoholics) was needed to rid them of Saddam and his heirs (Bahir Assad has followed his father with no move to usher in democracy). Islamism as an ideology has grown, not subsided in the last 40 years.
The Arabs needed a break, a fresh start, and a mentor and model. Our soldiers have given the Iraqis a gift incorporating all of the above.
I wish them well, believing that they have learned lessons from both the Islamists in Iran and the tyrants in their own and neighboring countries.
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