Arnold live (Republican Anxiety Attack!!!)

San Francisco Comicle ^ | today | Debra J. Saunders

[SierraWasp]

I JUST GOT off the phone with Arnold Schwarzenegger.

I think that man lurks behind the curtain, but I didn't quite hear him on the speaker phone.

I started by asking Schwarzenegger about the stories of him with women in the '70s. Just tell me, I said, that if you're governor, there won't be any more stories like those.

[SierraWasp]

"Conventional Wisdom" sucks canal water in a Recall/Replacement election. Note the "Conventional Wisdom" paragraph regarding Tom McClintock and the CA Legislature. (I put it in bold to help one find it)

An un-wise presumption of hopelessness!!!

[SierraWasp]

Persuasive Ping?

[ElkGroveDan]

I asked Schwarzenegger about the move by his close adviser, former Gov. Pete Wilson, to raise taxes and cut spending when, as a newly elected governor, he was confronted with a then-record $14 billion budget shortfall. Schwarzenegger noted that Wilson was "fiscally responsible" and that Wilson's package brought the state from red ink to a huge surplus.

NO. Wilson's 1991 tax increases sent the state economy into THE TOILET!

HELLO EVERYONE!!! He's going to raise taxes. Take off the blinders, and read the above.

[John Beresford Tipton]

"I want to vote for him. I want to believe. [He] doesn't quite convince me. That little extra something that tells me he's one of us -- a Republican who is willing to cut spending and gut bad regulations -- is missing."

Stop bad mouthing Bush.
You know how that attracts idiot Bush-Bots.</sarcasm>

[SierraWasp]

Well... I guess you're just not "trusting" enough.(/dripping sarcasm)

[TheBigB]

Reagan raised taxes as Governor, too.

[SierraWasp]

"HELLO EVERYONE!!! He's going to raise taxes. Take off the blinders, and read the above."

I boldly predict a "strange quiet" coming over FR in the next few days as many more FReepers get much more thoughtful with each "revelation" of the potential Schwarzenegger "administration!"

Like your thread revealing the "GANG-GREEN" element lurking in his stealth campaign in sheeps clothing!!!

[brydic1]

Don't you realize that for Arnold to take a pledge to not engage in sex w/prostitutes/gays/or poodles during his governorship would lose him votes in California. In fact, videos of him doing any and all the above would probably guarantee him election in California. Democrats would flock to his fold. He might lose a few republicans but for the most part even a moral reprobate would be better than what they have at present.

[So Cal Rocket]

What would Ah-nold do about SB60 -- the bill signed by Gov. Gray Davis that allows illegal immigrants to obtain California drivers' licenses? Ah-nold's "angry about it;" he's outraged that Davis signed a bill bereft of the background checks and other safeguards the governor had once demanded. Ah-nold will ask the Legislature to take the bill back. If that tack fails, he'll put an initiative before the voters.

Good answer.

NO!! That is the WRONG answer. The correct answer is to support the referendum that will block this legislation from ever taking effect! Once January 1st 2004 rolls along, this bill becomes law and hundreds of thousands (millions?) of illegal immigrants will be at the door of the DMV, and receive their license or state ID card. Once you open Pandora's box it will be too late to do anything. Arnold MUST support the referendum!

[Nonstatist]

I want a governor who, if the economy drags, will know when there's no other choice but to raise taxes -- and pledge to reduce them when the economy improves.

Heh!?? You raise taxes when the economy drags? Where'd you go to economics school, Miss Moron?

[jam137]

I don't want to pay higher taxes, but I want a governor who, if the economy drags, will know when there's no other choice but to raise taxes -- and pledge to reduce them when the economy improves.

How does raising taxes help us when we're in a bad economy?

[hresources]

What is it about the fact that Mc Clintock can't win this do his supporters not understand. He can't! It wont happen! So are they all going to just stay on the boat as it goes over the falls? Is the alternative just too much to swallow? Do they really want Bustamante? Maybe that's it. They think a Bustamante will make things so bad that their chances will improve for 04 and beyond. No I get it. I guess.

[45Auto]

Saunders is a phoney. She voted for Davis in the last election.

[Rain-maker]

What canditate won't raise taxes? answer:NONE,NADA,ZIPPO

You could vote for Gary Coleman, he says print conterfeit currency and hope the Federal Reserve doesn't notice...LOL

$38 billion reduction in the state's operating costs?
ROFLMAO Yeah sure, keep on smokin' that no tax dream.

The Taxman cometh, pay for your ignorance California!

[joesnuffy]

When all the illegal invaders get their California Drivers licenses
and then California goes belly up
They will take their cards to states with reciprocity and exchange them
Then they will take these license to any state they desire...
These are de facto ID cards welcome in every state in the Union ..with a little hustling...

What this does is to enable to Feds to step in with A NATIONAL FEDERAL ID Card.....

Oh...for the good of the nation and Homieland security...

And of course in time these cards will be forged...and so another increment will have to be enacted...

Persoanlly I think they should go to implantable chips right away...save so much aggravation and capital

[SierraWasp]

"Persoanlly I think they should go to implantable chips right away...save so much aggravation and capital"

Yup! Put one in the forehead and one in the hand, right?

[ElkGroveDan]

What canditate won't raise taxes? answer:NONE,NADA,ZIPPO

Tom McClintock won't raise taxes. If you don't believe me you have to read up on McClintock and recent history going back to 1982.

The 15 members of the Senate Republican caucus this year locked arms and prevented a legislative tax increase int his year's budget. It can be done. And conservatives are willing to do it.

[pabianice]

California is on the doorstep of becoming a real Mike McQuay novel ("Escape from New York," "Jitterbug,*" etc.-- go www.amazon.com) Whomever is elected is dead meat, and will be noted by history as a collosal failure; California has come too close to the brink to scoot back to safety; it's going over the edge, and soon. The real spectacle will be watching how it puts itself back together. I believe there is a small but real chance that when the dust settles, part of CA will have been formally given to some Hispanic group, either as an "Indian tribe" or as part of Mexico.

From a purely selfish, I-like-science fiction, approach, the show is goinna be a doozy. No other US state has ever freely given-away its sovereignty to foreigners as has southern California/"Atzlan," nor the San Francisco area ("Bumeria" -- 'one bum, one $ 605/month welfare check, one vote'). At some point there is no turning back. California is there.

Liberals -- dumb a s a box of rocks and selfish as a cancerous tumor -- won't worry until their carefully protected upper-class California world comes crashing-down around their ears. Then, it will be too late, and we'll see them fleeing the state with whatever they can carry, angry, bitter, and still clueless ("How could those people do this to me, after all I've done for them?")

Crack-open a beer, put your feet up, and enjoy the show.

"We live in interesting times" -- traditional Chinese lament

'"JITTERBUG" by Mike McQuay

Bantam 1984; paperback 422 pp; ISBN 0-553-24266-0

This science fiction story takes place in 2155, on an earth run by an Arab dictator with the power of life and death over everyone. He rules by terror, with a very contagious and fatal disease called Jitterbug, which has been used in the past, and has rendered 90 percent of the earth's surface uninhabitable. New Orleans, where this story takes place, is one of the few pockets of survivors left.

Olson, a drifter from the Southwest, enters the city assuming the identity of a Junex (Junior Executive) transferring from Dallas. Earth has become a place where ruthless amoral executives battle for what power is left, while everyone else simply battles for survival. Olson is accompanied by Gert, a sort of genetically engineered human sex machine, who knows her way around.

Together they battle for control of the local branch of the Light of the World (LOW) Corporation, the instrument through which the world is controlled, when their protector, the current head of LOW New Orleans, dies under mysterious circumstances.

This one is surprisingly good. Given the year it was published, it is very plausible. The social speculation is right on target, the characters are real people, and it's an all around interesting read.'

[calcowgirl]

Q: What would you do about SB60?

AS: I will ask the Legislature to take the bill back.
If that fails, I will put an initiative before the voters.

Q: What about the current effort to get a referendum?

AS: What effort? What's a referendum?

[Carry_Okie]

Wilson's tax increase was so damaging to the California economy that it COST the State an additional billion a year in revenue by deepening the 1991 recession.