A Few of FR's Finest...Every Day...09-10-03...Original Intent of the First Amendment

09-10-2003 | Aquamarine

[Aquamarine]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. :)

[Aquamarine]

You mean the Liberty Bell that has a Bible Verse written on it? "Proclaim LIBERTY throughout all the Land unto all the inhabitants thereof" (Leviticus 25:10). Wonder how that could have happened.

I hadn't heard about it being moved, will it be moved far from its current location?

[FreeTheHostages]

Good show!

[lonestar]

Great job!

[FreeTheHostages]

I so agree that the layperson does not appreciate these legal facts.

I would say, however, that the US Supreme Court and the federal courts *generally* do get the fact that discussions of religion and morality can and *should* take place inside Courthouses. Witnesses can and do swear before God, for example, and God is referenced in "God Bless this Court" and various phrases.

When it was announced that Attorney General Ashcroft prayed early in the morning at his government workplace, there was a hue and cry among the leftist non-lawyers that this was a violation of "separation of church and state." But since all the Constitution forbids is an establishment, and General Ashcroft's activities were surely not that, one notes that no federal court told him to stop it.

I would just say, regarding your legitimate complaints, that despite the press attention to weird court cases, the federal courts generally do, I think, appreciate that religious speech shy of an "establishment" is permitted -- indeed as you point out constitutionally protected. Ever since the monument case, I've been trying to persuade some of my skeptical non-lawyer friends that indeed the Supreme Court has the 10 commandments in the hallway of its building. And they do.

[MeekOneGOP]

Mornin', everybody ! Happy Wednesday !!

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[Aquamarine]

Good morning (((lonestar)))

[Dubya]

Very good, thanks for the ping.

[jwfiv]

Good monring, Miss Aqua...thank you immensely for your beautiful and timely thread...very nice...)

You've got that HTML knack...and, you've sure got the Freedom knack, too...all Freepers do.

A big Howdy to all our lovely Hostesses, and all our Finest neighbors.

[MeekOneGOP]

Oh, yeah !! Hey, since that thread was a recent one and about Ben Franklin,
it would be Perfect for linking here !

Ben Franklin Quote - Your feedback please

Posted by MeeknMing
On 08/14/2003 4:56 AM CDT with 129 comments

August 14, 2003
"A nation of well informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the region of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Benjamin Franklin

[Aquamarine]

I would say, however, that the US Supreme Court and the federal courts *generally* do get the fact that discussions of religion and morality can and *should* take place inside Courthouses. Witnesses can and do swear before God, for example, and God is referenced in "God Bless this Court" and various phrases.

These things are done nowdays more out of a sense of tradition meanwhile many judges are agreeing with the ACLU lawsuits that are slowly eroding these traditions and are dismantling them one by one all over the country.

[Aquamarine]

Saw that 'In God We Trust' on the back of that 100 dollar bill!
Here's a few other places we can find a reference to God.

1. In God we Trust on US Currency
2. References to God in the Declaration of Independence which has always been displayed on Government property.
3. References to God in the US Constitutions and State Constitutions.
4. The Pledge of Allegiance.
5. Congress beginning with Prayer.
6. Chaplains hired by the US Military.
7. Presidential Oath taken with a hand on the Bible and traditionally ending with "So help me God."
8. Supreme Court Justice oaths and other Government Oaths of office taken by Government officials with a hand on the Bible and traditionally ending with "so help me God."
9. Court witnesses taking an oath on the Bible and ending with "So help me God."
10. Moses and the Ten Commandments depicted on the Supreme Court Building in Washington DC.

[Aquamarine]

Thanks and good morning. :)

[Aquamarine]

Good morning JW. You are so correct about Freepers having the Freedom knack!
Are you on your way out to jury duty today?

[jwfiv]

No jury duty...they work it so that if you're not called on the first day, you're off the hook.

Today, I rest and catch up on mail and bills...I've been pushing hard for weeks now, am due for a break or I'm gonna crumple...battling a little cold, too.

Still cat-sitting, my feline guest has taken it upon herself to see that I become an early riser...not my natural rhythm...)

She wants company while she takes her morning repast(s)...such a sweet thang...)))

[Aquamarine]

No jury duty...they work it so that if you're not called on the first day, you're off the hook.

Sounds like another one of California's layed back ways. Here in the South they keep us coming back until Wednesday and sometimes Thursday.
Sorry to hear about the cold, have had a little hay fever here probably caused from the goldenrod that's in bloom right now.
Glad you're enjoying the kitty even if she is a morning feline. :)

[Calpernia]

*Sniff* *Sniff*

No one answered me :( I guess this means I wasn't missed? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/978538/posts?page=112#112 I just love my graphic of my dragon buring M$ !!!!!

I'm almost back in the saddle here!

Thank goodness the computer nightmare is coming to a close!

Morning to all the Finest!

[Aquamarine]

God Bless Our Military



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[Aquamarine]

Of course you were missed! You just got to the thread late after everyone else had gone to bed.
Glad to hear your computer woes are coimg to an end.

[Calpernia]

Great post Aqua! Since the ACLU wants to remove all religious symbols from public viewing, what do you anticipate they will try to do with places like Arlington Cemetary?

They do seem to be that extreme.