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WTC steel to be reshaped into bow of USS New York
The Stars and Stripes ^ | September 8, 2003 | Sandra Jontz

Posted on 09/08/2003 2:26:22 PM PDT by demlosers

A Navy vessel, one day to be christened the USS New York, will bring to life a fallen icon of the city that suffered most from the terrorist attacks two years ago.

On Tuesday, workers from the Amite Foundry and Machine Inc. will melt down 24 tons of steel that once formed the shell of the World Trade Center, and begin the process of resurrecting it, in a manner of speaking.

At 2,850 degrees Fahrenheit, the steel will soften. From a 50-ton capacity ladle, the melted steel will be poured into a sand mold containing an imprint for the bow-stem casting for the Navy’s next LPD San Antonio-class amphibious transport dock, being built by Northrup Grumman Ship Systems.

“This symbolizes and recognizes the great courage of the people of New York. … There’s quite a symbolic link in the name, and now we’re using the steel from the World Trade Center in the forward part of the hull that literally breaks the waves,” said Fred Lash, spokesman of Naval Sea Systems Command, which oversees the construction of ships.

“The curvature of that part of the bow literally is the most forward extension of the ship and when it sails into missions in the future, it’ll be that steel up front that leads the way, and will have with it the hardness and dedication and spirit of the people of New York,” Lash said.

Each of the Navy’s LPD will be named for cities. The New York, the fifth in a planned 12-vessel series, is preceded by the lead ship San Antonio, followed by the New Orleans, Mesa Verde and then the Green Bay.

And so, there’s a somber excitement brewing in Amite, La. — and yes, you can have both simultaneously, said Wayne Peterson, spokesman for Amite Foundry and Machine.

“We feel there is a lot of emotion involved in this, and all of us feel grateful we’ve been chosen to do this work, and that’s why we’re having a ceremony to celebrate that,” Peterson said of Tuesday’s planned festivities.

“But it’s a somber excitement.”

To commemorate that somberness, that excitement, New Yorkers will travel to Louisiana to catch a glimpse of the notable process, New Yorkers such as representatives from the city fire department, Port Authority, and police department — each of which lost comrades in rescue attempts at the World Trace Center following the infamous terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

Former Navy Secretary Gordon England, now the deputy secretary of the Homeland Security Department, will attend with his wife, Dotty England, the ship’s sponsor. Gov. George Pataki and city mayor Michael Bloomberg have been invited.

A year ago, England announced the decision to name the fifth amphibious transport dock ship of the San Antonio class after the Big Apple.

“This new class of ships will project American power to the far corners of the earth and support the cause of freedom well into the 21st century,” England had said.

“From the war for independence through the war on terrorism, which we wage today, the courage and heroism of the people of New York has been an inspiration. USS New York will play an important role in our Navy’s future and will be a fitting tribute to the people of the Empire State.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; US: Louisiana; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2ndanniversary; cool; northrupgrumman; steel; usn; ussnewyork; wtcruins
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To: rmlew
Frankly I think it is a mistake by the Navy.

As do I. The RAM is great for point defense, but the ESS would have been a really nice additional layer of self-defense.

I know thay are counting on the Burke's and the Tico's...but that additional level of protection should be there for these high value ships IMHO.

41 posted on 09/08/2003 6:12:16 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: rmlew
The LPD-17's figure in heavily to my Dragon's Fury Series of novels.
42 posted on 09/08/2003 6:14:41 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Dialup Llama
This is the proper use of the WTC steel.

Another good use for the steel:


43 posted on 09/08/2003 6:42:31 PM PDT by WestPacSailor (Sorry folks, this tagline's closed. The moose out front should of told you.)
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To: Jeff Head
The RAM is great for point defense, but the ESS would have been a really nice additional layer of self-defense.

The thing about RAM is it was designed specifically for Anti-ASM. (Stinger seeker head mounted on a Sidewinder airframe...comes 21 to a pack). The enhanced Sea Sparrow is more of an anti-aircraft design, and only have 8 per launcher...also takes more time to reload. RAM can be reloaded by two guys and a rail...Sea Sparrow is too big to be manhandled in the confined space around the launcher.

RAM is designed to be salvo fired at incoming missiles and is fire and forget. ESS has to have radar lock on the incoming tgt throughout the engagement sequence.

44 posted on 09/08/2003 6:48:40 PM PDT by WestPacSailor (Sorry folks, this tagline's closed. The moose out front should of told you.)
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To: demlosers

46 posted on 09/08/2003 7:03:38 PM PDT by js1138
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To: Jeff Head
They really should call the USS New York, the USS City of New York, because other classes of ships, currently SSBNs are named after states and their could be some confusion, Soon to be attack submarines of the Virginia class as well. (The Connecticut is also the second and last of the Seawolf class, although the "Jimmy Carter" is of the same basic design, modified for spec. ops). Of course attack submarines were previously named after cities, with the Los Angeles being the lead ship of her class. The Corpus Christi is actually the City of Corpus Christi, as some objected to a warship being called the "Body of Christ".
47 posted on 09/08/2003 8:12:12 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Moose4
I wouldn't mind seeing the name New York on the most heavily armed baddest mofo in the Navy, y'know?

Unfortunately carriers tend to get named after politicians, which is OK when one means "Teddy Roosevelt", "George Washington", "Eisenhower", or even Reagan or GHW Bush, (the next two) but Vinson and Stennis? Stennis already had a space center named after him, he didn't need a carrier too. Besides, if we are naming them after friendly polycritters, why is there no USS Scoop Jackson? And will there be a "USS Strom Thurman"? I sort of doubt it unless it's a destroyer or frigate.

The garbage scow will be re-named the "Bent One".

48 posted on 09/08/2003 8:21:50 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Angelus Errare
Ping!
49 posted on 09/08/2003 8:25:13 PM PDT by Green Knight (Looking forward to seeing Jeb stepping over Hillary's rotting political corpse in 2008.)
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To: WestPacSailor
ESS is a medium range defense...RAM is point. The ESS is an improvement over the Sea Sparrow and includes the capability to engage ASM's. Sea Sparrow as it is, has been defending carriers and other ships for decades as a medium range defense...a fall back for the leakers that get through AEGIS, and then the CIWS takes those that get by that. Good layered defense.

That was my point in mentioning it. It would be nice to have both.

IMHO, the ESS and other such medium range systems needs to evolve into a AMRAAM derivative.

50 posted on 09/08/2003 9:08:02 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: demlosers
I'm rusty in my geography. Any chance that we can ram our 'friends' the Saudis with this ship? A WTC special edition bullet for all terrorists... house of saud, mugabe, castro,etc. no I'm not advocating asassination. Not me.
51 posted on 09/08/2003 9:11:00 PM PDT by cyborg (i'm half and half... me mum is a muggle and me dad is a witch)
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To: El Gato

USS William J. Clinton

52 posted on 09/08/2003 9:17:18 PM PDT by dagnabbit (Avenge 9-11. Nuke Riyadh)
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To: Moose4
When did they stop naming ships of the line after cities and switch over to LPDs?


The original set of LPD's -- 1 to 15 -- were all started in the 1960's and commissioned by 1972-73. They were all named after cities. I spent almost a year on the LPD-10 (USS Juneau) during construction, and got to sail on her during both her Builder's Trial and Preliminary Acceptance Trail. The ships were big and were worthy warships to carry city names.


What I find interesting is that the new class has most of the basic lines of their predecessors -- but with a lot of streamlining.

53 posted on 09/08/2003 9:30:22 PM PDT by StevieB
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To: El Gato
Well, typically destroyers and frigates (if I remember right) are named after naval heroes, MOH winners, that sort? I guess they'd be the logical classes to start picking up politician names (Lord knows they name everything else after themselves). There's already a USS Winston Churchill (a DDG?).

There's already a C-17 in the USAF named the "Spirit of Strom Thurmond"; it's based at Charleston AFB, South Carolina. I'm sure they'll manage to work in a "Spirit of Foghorn Leghorn--errr, Ernest Hollings" too. :)

I can't even imagine what they'd name for Slick Willard. Probably a Chinese guided missile destroyer, call it the Most Honorable People's Navy Ship Rilliam Krintong.

}:-)4
54 posted on 09/08/2003 9:36:47 PM PDT by Moose4 (These are my antlers. There are many like them, but these two are mine.)
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To: Jeff Head
684 feet and 24,900 tons...isn't that a darn big ship to be powered by diesels and not by gas turbines or steam?

Interesting info on these ships, they're quite remarkable and they carry some remarkable things too...my next-cube neighbor at work has a son who just went into the Marine Reserve and is being trained on loading/unloading LCACs, among other things. Apparently the kid had a blast learning his way around those monsters.

}:-)4
55 posted on 09/08/2003 9:42:06 PM PDT by Moose4 (These are my antlers. There are many like them, but these two are mine.)
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To: dagnabbit
No...that would be the PLAN William J. Clinton. There is no, nor (hopefully) will ever be a USS William J Clinton of any type. it would soil the USS designator.
56 posted on 09/08/2003 9:47:49 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Moose4
They are large ships, but not as large as the LHD Wasp Class, at 844 ft and 40,500 tons.

...and those supercharged diesels for the LPD 17 class aint our daddy's diesels. There are four, producing 10,400hp each

57 posted on 09/08/2003 9:52:16 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Redbob
LOL!!
58 posted on 09/08/2003 9:53:04 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: El Gato
Besides, if we are naming them after friendly polycritters, why is there no USS Scoop Jackson?

Yes there is.
SSBN 730 was commisioned as the USS Rhode Island. The Fifth Ohio Class SSBN was renamed for Senator Jackson.
http://www.nvr.navy.mil/nvrships/details/SSBN730.htm
59 posted on 09/08/2003 9:57:31 PM PDT by rmlew ("Millions for defense, but not one cent for tribute.")
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To: demlosers
That's really cool.
60 posted on 09/08/2003 10:02:59 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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