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Almost Two Years After They Were Defeated, Thousands Join The Talibans New Jihad
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9-7-2003 | Massoud Ansari

Posted on 09/06/2003 5:57:12 PM PDT by blam

Almost two years after they were defeated, thousands join the Taliban's new jihad

(Filed: 07/09/2003)

Massoud Ansari travels with militia fighters around the Kandahar region of Afghanistan

They are known as the Sarbaz - those who care nothing for their own lives - and they represent one of the greatest threats to the government of Mohammed Karzai and the international forces seeking to bring stability to the shattered country of Afghanistan.

The Taliban, supposedly vanquished in December 2001 when American and Northern Alliance forces drove them from power, are reviving and fighting back across southern Afghanistan.

Siddiqullah is one of many hundreds - possibly thousands - of young men who have been recruited to the Taliban to join their guerrilla war against government and allied forces. At 24 and recently engaged, he has put his life on hold to wage a holy war on "infidel" forces occupying his country.

"My parents insisted that I wait for a while and get married, but I told them that my first and last commitment is jihad and I don't want to make any other commitment at this stage," he said.

Siddiqullah is involved in the increasing number of hit-and-run attacks against government and American troops, moving from village to village through the bleak mountains of this rugged region, sometimes spending days travelling on foot through the desert.

"Jihad is now ordained for all of us," said Siddiqullah, and it seems that many young men agree with him. Students from religious seminaries across the border in the Pakistani province of Baluchistan have joined the war within Afghanistan, and are ready to take part in suicide missions.

Members of the Taliban say that their renewed campaign follows a reorganisation carried out by three regional commanders earlier this year, on the orders of the movement's one-eyed spiritual leader, Mullah Mohammed Omar - who, along with Osama bin Laden, remains at large.

Responding to the call, Mullah Dadullah Kakar, a one-legged veteran of the war against the Russians, and Maulvi Sadiq Hameed travelled to the Madrassas, or religious schools, in Baluchistan, to recruit students.

The third Taliban commander, Hafiz Majeed, garnered support from the tribal chieftains and elders in southern Afghanistan.

Dadullah has fought the allies ever since the Taliban regime was driven from Kabul, Kandahar and Afghanistan's other main cities. As one of Mullah Omar's most trusted lieutenants, he escaped to Pakistan, where he was sheltered by Kakar tribesmen in Baluchistan.

"The tribesman not only gave him shelter but also bought him a Land Cruiser and gave him huge amounts of money," said a Taliban fighter. Later, when they realised that he might be arrested in Baluchistan, the tribesmen moved Dadullah to a house in part of Karachi - Pakistan's biggest city - which is dominated by affluent Pathan businessmen.

Subsequently Dadullah, accompanied by religious scholars from Afghanistan, visited dozens of religious schools in Pakistan's tribal areas to lecture students and deliver instructions on jihad from Mullah Omar.

While hundreds have already joined the fight, Taliban leaders claim that many more religious students from Pakistan are ready to go.

In the past 15 days alone, about 150 people - including Afghan troops, policemen and civilians - have been killed in southern Afghanistan. The most significant attack came when 400 Taliban militia reportedly captured one of the districts of Zabul province for a few hours, killing 29 government soldiers and even hoisting a Taliban flag. They used the loudspeakers of mosques to warn residents not to co-operate with United States forces or the government.

The Taliban are drawing on support from Pathans, who complain that they are under-represented in the government compared with the ethnic Tajiks, Hazaras and Uzbeks who have taken many of the senior jobs in the police force, army and administration.

Meanwhile, many traders, already compelled to pay extortion money to Northern Alliance warlords, subsequently lost their businesses to the looters who roam Afghanistan's highways. Those who resisted were killed.

The scarcity of reconstruction work in Afghanistan's southern regions, where people lack healthcare, education or even wells for drinking water, has boosted the Taliban's recruitment drive. Mohammed Hasan, a villager in a remote valley near the Pakistan border, said: "We supported the coalition because we thought that they would change our life, but so far nothing has changed."

Many areas of the south still look as they did under Taliban rule: men wear black turbans, women cover themselves from head to toe, and there are no cinemas or television sets. With only 15,000 American troops in the whole of Afghanistan, it is impossible for them to keep an eye on every single movement.

Mohammed Amin, a 30-year-old leading a group of Taliban in the Pashmol district of Kandahar province, said hundreds of tribesmen were acting as the eyes and ears for the movement, supplying information on the movement of government forces. Some of the volunteers children were as young as 12.

Meanwhile, he boasted, Taliban fighters had managed to join the Afghan government army, where they acted as spies and saboteurs. "They either confide to us information about the plans movement of Afghan US troops, or they attack these troops and kill them."

Taliban fighters go to great lengths to avoid detection, moving in small groups of 20 or fewer, emerging from hideouts after dark to lie in wait for government patrols, or to launch ambushes on army outposts while troops sleep.

Most of the communication is through hand-written notes, although local commanders also use satellite telephones and radios.

Amin showed me a handwritten letter bearing the signature of Mullah Omar, urging his men to fight and free the people from the "slavery of the infidel US".

However, the Taliban fighters say they do not intend trying to regain control of the whole of Afghanistan in the near future. "We've the strength, guts and force to take even Kabul any time, but we know our limitations and we wouldn't be able to sustain that control," said 28-year-old Habibullah, a recent recruit to the militia from the refugee camps in Pakistan.

"We don't have the technology to withstand B-52 air strikes. What we are trying to do is inflict maximum damage to the US troops and their allies so that they get fed up and leave our country.

"We know that won't be soon but we also know that they will get fed up eventually. Look at what our long resistance did to the Russians."


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To: TBP
Hindustan has had a long history of anti-Americnism.

Yes, and I think it is based on a deep-seated mistrust of all things Anglo Saxon. And I am not in favor of fighting a proxy war on behalf of the Hindus. Moreover, I think that attacking Iraq first and eliminating its ability to strike at our flanks or at Israel was wise.

I just find myself waiting for the next blow to fall on our enemies, and it increasingly appears that our leadership is afraid to face the worst of the situation.

41 posted on 09/06/2003 9:00:41 PM PDT by risk
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To: WOSG
The Iraq victory was FAR FROM HOLLOW

I had two things in mind when I said that: first, the Iraq war is not done yet, and I think we should have waited to declare victory. Second, compared to what has to be done, it may not seem like it was so difficult, and yet we seem to be resting on our laurels. With Korea and Pakistan, there are real nuclear threats to manage. We may have to accept a great deal of risk to eliminate our enemies. I think Americans were prepared for that in the spring of 2003, but our focus has been diminished by the PR campaign.

Give the Prez credit on the fact that he is looking at the situation now and not historically, and using what he can of Pakistan's help. It's a balancing act, to not turn them agains tus and thereby turn Pakistan into a nuclear-armed safe haven for terrorists . . .

I've been saying exactly the same thing for two years. It's now almost 9/11/2003. I'm still waiting to see the promises of crossing any border, crushing any and all terrorists, and making their protectors pay. The roadmap is a complete farce in that respect. It's been a waste of precious Israeli life, and a humiliation for all of us. Those responsible for it in this administration must be asked to resign, or else we have to ask what other doubts we should be having?

A long fight.

That's what we said at the beginning of the Cold War. It's what CFR (Council for Foreign Relations) told us about the Soviet union in the middle of the Vietnam war. It's what Carter believed. And after defeating the Soviet union and soundly trouncing Iraq, Clinton was afraid to challenge North Korea. Reagan proved that we could win the Cold War if we had faith, and were willing to sacrifice. And we could win it in a decade, not a series of lifetimes. Can't we also do better now? All of America, centrist Democrats, conservative Democrats, Republicans, and many Libertarians are behind a sweep to victory. Why haven't we used that consensus to really take this war to a level that corresponds to the 9/11 attacks? I sense a timidity on the part of the administration: keep the casualty count down, restrain the military, appease the home front that appears devided due to the cacaphony on the far left. Meanwhile the Taliban regroups, the Iranians fashion their bombs, and Pakistan loses moderate political control, or maybe never had it. We can do better. I just want GW to know that we actually expect it. He has our support because we believed he would do what he said. I'm waiting.

42 posted on 09/06/2003 9:24:14 PM PDT by risk
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To: Jim Noble; Mad_Tom_Rackham
They were not defeated.

Their government was chased from power, and their fighters were dispersed.

Defeated means that they are broken and are amenable to our will.

That is not true in Afgahnistan, and it is not true in Iraq.

Actually a government being forced from power by opposing military force is an excellent example of being defeated. And that fact that both the current governments of Afphanistan and Iraq are working with us and supporting our efforts would indicate that they are pretty amenable to our will.

There are degrees of victory and defeat. It is ok to say that the enemy had been defeated on the battlefield without implying that the war is over. As this clearly is the case. I think that we need to be very care not to come up with an all or nothing standard for victory (not accusing you of that).

43 posted on 09/06/2003 9:33:43 PM PDT by Sci Fi Guy
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To: blam
bttt
44 posted on 09/06/2003 9:33:49 PM PDT by lainde
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To: Jim Noble
Correct.
46 posted on 09/06/2003 9:56:35 PM PDT by RLK
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To: blam
Kakkate koi!
47 posted on 09/06/2003 10:09:10 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (...they led my people astray, saying, "Peace!" when there was no peace -- Ezekiel 13:10)
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To: Straight Vermonter
Iok Etakkak!
48 posted on 09/06/2003 10:14:23 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam
Look at what our long resistance did to the Russians."

Hmmm. The US did in 3 mos. what the Soviets couldnt do in 10 years..

49 posted on 09/06/2003 10:17:14 PM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: cardinal4
The US did in 3 mos. what the Soviets couldnt do in 10 years.

The three months is misleading in that sense, though. The Taliban weren't supported by another superpower. But the Afghanistan conflict in the '80s was really a hot point in the wider Cold War. The Soviet "local" best was against our covert/remote best. Unfortunately, the Taliban started believing that because they were able to drive out the Soviets with our help, they could do anything.

The Taliban are sexually confused, goat-herding drug lords with a penchant for SUVs and highway robbery. But Pakistan has nukes, and I don't believe for a minute that Pakistan is under strict control of moderates. We may wake up one day and find that Pakistan has had another junta, and by the way their nukes are all scattered over the mideast and are ready to fire unless Israel agrees to pack up and leave, America departs from the entire region, and India leaves Kashmir.

50 posted on 09/06/2003 10:59:43 PM PDT by risk
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To: blam
These people are like a nest of Fire Ants and we are killing them in ones and twos, hoping thet they will learn not to bite us.

Fire ants bite, it is their nature to do so, and like these sorry suicidal Rags there are millions of them waiting their turn.

51 posted on 09/06/2003 11:15:51 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Por La Raza Mierda.)
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To: Aunt Enna
I am supportive of individuals who decry Islam as being no religion of peace. But I'm not sure our government needs to make claims to that effect, regardless of our actual policy. I believe we can fight a full war against Islamic terror, including attacks on seemingly peaceful Wahabi strongholds, without declaring war on a religion. I respect our president for making that choice. What bothers me is that we sometimes appear to also be conducting business as though Islam in fact were a religion of peace.

I know politically disengaged Muslims who sound more like leftist Democrats or Michael Moore fans than religious zealots. One mentions the Reformation, and points that that Islam hasn't had one yet. I'd rather not turn these people against us with official hate language, even if we all have our doubts, especially Homeland Security. What we say to the world doesn't have to be what we use to tailor our security profiling efforts.

52 posted on 09/06/2003 11:16:23 PM PDT by risk
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To: blam
These people are like a nest of Fire Ants and we are killing them in ones and twos, hoping thet they will learn not to bite us.

Fire ants bite, it is their nature to do so, and like these sorry suicidal Rags there are millions of them awaiting their turn.

53 posted on 09/06/2003 11:17:16 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Por La Raza Mierda.)
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To: Sci Fi Guy; RLK
I think that we need to be very care not to come up with an all or nothing standard for victory (not accusing you of that)

Oh, but I am guilty, whether you accuse me or not.

War is a fascinating study. It has laws that it follows, almost like astrophysics. There are reasons man likes it so much, principally because it renders decisions that mere politicians are incapable of.

Victory in war is, by definition, all or nothing. The victors get to dictate terms to the losers, not because the losers now like the victors, or because the victors now can get a favorable UN resolution.

The victors power is such that they can seize the losers' treasure, rape their women, occupy their land, and treat them like slaves, to the extent that they desire.

That is victory.

And that is what is missing from our "victories" in the "war" on terrorism, and from Israel's war against the Arabs.

Now, you may say, such a victory is not necessary to accomplish our political ends. We shall see.

Allowing an undefeated enemy to exist at all, when they have articulated the desire, and demonstrated the capability, to kill our women and children, is not civilized-it is effete to the point of suicidality.

There is every reason to still fear our enemies-and that's not victory, by any definition.

55 posted on 09/07/2003 4:11:19 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: risk
We had a hollow but necessary victory in Iraq, but our enemies are still gathering their forces. The Roadmap proved my Hindu friends were right

Boy, your Hindu frinds are smart!

Pakistan is like Mordor, where armies of orcs are being prepared to storm our cities.

There is no substitute for victory.

56 posted on 09/07/2003 4:13:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: blam
"Gentleman, come with me, and I will take you down to the land of MOAB, where all your earthly concerns will melt away..."
57 posted on 09/07/2003 4:52:10 AM PDT by Free Vulcan
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To: Jim Noble
There is a difference between treating the cause of the disease versus treating the symptom. What we have been doing is treating the symptom while denying the cause. The cause is Islam, which is organizing guerrilla sucide groups all over the world in large numbers that will control geographical areas and populations while Bush calls it the religion of peace. It's crazy and crazy to talk about a victory. We are losing.

Islam must be confronted and completely discredited for the aggressive psychosis it is, or we have done nothing but play a little kid's war game.

58 posted on 09/07/2003 7:43:11 AM PDT by RLK
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To: Jim Noble
...Allowing an undefeated enemy to exist at all, when they have articulated the desire, and demonstrated the capability, to kill our women and children, is not civilized-it is effete to the point of suicidality...

You are absolutely correct.
I have the biggest trouble understanding what our "leadership" (with all due sarcasm) is thinking.

Given the all too obvious results of their weak policies, I can only conclude they are incabable of thinking at all.

They can't possibly believe the Jihadis or our other wonderful mortal enemies, the Chicoms would leave them alone after destroying the rest of us.
59 posted on 09/07/2003 8:16:33 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: risk
Pakistan, along with Saudi Arabia, was one of two countries that hit us on 9.11

The rest is whitewash.

For various reasons, we could not allow the truth about the Attacks implicating these two countries to come out.

State sponsors? Not when the perps are our so called friends.
60 posted on 09/07/2003 10:58:35 AM PDT by swarthyguy
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