Posted on 09/05/2003 8:00:27 PM PDT by Recourse
Missing the Point on Gays
By Alan Simpson Friday, September 5, 2003; Page A21
For several weeks now a storm has been brewing in the Senate over just how homosexuals fit into the mainstream of American life. First, an honest debate on the criminalization of gay sex in Texas somehow gave rise to baseless fears about permitting bestiality and incest. Then, after the Supreme Court's reasonable ruling in Lawrence v. Texas that the government had no business policing people in their bedrooms, a panic developed. Some worried that the decision would lead to gay marriage, thus posing a threat to the survival of the American family.
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I have never heard anyone claim that depression is predetermined at birth. Until now. ;D
Estrogens and androgen blocking drugs have been administered to adult men in the treatment of prostate cancer, and they do not produce changes in the brain structure.
How do you KNOW they don't affect something at some level, if you're not slicing opens the brains of all such men? The hormones do cause dramatic physical and behavioral changes. I knew a guy who had a pituitary adenoma; the before and after were all pretty radical.
The structure of the brain is complete at birth, since all the neurons a person has are there at birth.
Things like drug use and Alzheimer's change the brain AFTER birth, do they not? Malnutrition can prevent the brain from developing as it should, can it not?
If it is a birth defect, are we to abort the fetus's on the grounds they will have a gender identity problem? Or tell the individuals they are crazy, and wait for them to commit suicide?
Is that how you'd proceed with schizophrenia? Or would you ideally try to correct the problem?
My point is that we don't develop a schizophrenia-based "culture", affirm it as a lifdstyle choice, or pass legislation insisting we all go along with their delusions. Which is happening rapidly in the case of transgenders.
Well, you weren't willing to admit there were ANY before, so I suppose that's progress.
now men; you know the story!!
What's clear is that you have a story or two; it's a shame that you project that onto all men.
but i can assure that a man is behind that site and making money off it.
Is a man behind their behavior and their sick little fantasies as well? Sheesh.
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The main characteristic I've noticed of male homosexuals is an extreme interest in sex - of female homosexuals, a dislike of men.
WD, "Butterfly Kisses" is a female run site. Check it and its "sister" publications out. It is not a lesbian porn site, it's a child molester site.
"The homosexual movement's rationalization is far more widely advanced in its claims. According to Jeffrey Levi, former executive director for the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force, “We (homosexuals)_ are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a right to protection from wrong. We have a right - as heterosexuals have already - to see government and society affirm our lives.” Since only the act of sodomy differentiates an active homosexual from a heterosexual, homosexuals want “government and society” to affirm that sodomy is morally equivalent to the marital act. “Coming out of the closet” can only mean an assent on the level of moral principle to what would otherwise be considered morally disordered.
And so it must be. If you are going to center your public life on the private act of sodomy, you had better transform sodomy into a highly moral act. If sodomy is a moral disorder, it cannot be legitimately advanced on the legal or civil level. On the other hand, if it is a highly moral act, it should serve as the basis for marriage, family (adoption), and community. As a moral act, sodomy should be normative. If it is normative, it should be taught in our schools as a standard. In fact, homosexuality should be hieratic: active homosexuals should be ordained as priests. All of this is happening. It was predictable. The homosexual cause moved naturally from a plea for tolerance to cultural conquest. How successful that conquest has been can be seen in the poverty of the rhetoric of its opponents. In supporting the Defense of Marriage Act, the best one congressman could do was to say, “America is not yet ready for homosexual marriage,” as if we simply need a decent interval to adjust ourselves to its inevitable arrival.
The homosexual rationalization is so successful that even the campaign against AIDS is part of it, with its message that “everyone is at risk.” If everyone is at risk, the disease cannot be related to specific behavior. Yet homosexual acts are the single greatest risk factor in catching AIDS. This unpleasant fact invites unwelcome attention to the nature of homosexual acts, so it must be ignored."
FYI - Free Republic thread: Meet 'Women's Auxiliary of NAMBLA'
Actually, if the Senate would ammend the Constitution to force SCOTUS to keep out of the laws of the states (as in their Texas sodomy decision) then they would not need to create any kind of a law defending marriage on a national level. But as long as the SCOTUS can savage the laws of the states at will, a Constitutional ammendment may be required.
If SCOTUS will leave it up to the states, then I agree with the author. But SCOTUS won't. The biggest power grabbers in the history of our Republic is 9 appointed justices.
Shalom.
I know people who are attacted to the same sex. They are great people who have so much good for their community. I know people like Donald D'hanene, who had the guts to publish his life's true story over the brutal sexual assualts he had to endure as a child, the cover ups by his church (Not the RCs) and the court system that failed him.
His couragous story has helped thousands of survivors of child abuse.
I could go on with others.
When I read this board and the slam a lot of posters give to homosexuals all because of their lifestyle, well I'm just not impressed.
I could easily slam the leadership of many religious organizations just as badly if I wanted but I don't. I remember very well how women were treated by this world and how they still are treated in certain countries and by certain groups. Certain posters on this board remind me of those who were against a women's right to vote in the USA and Canada earlier last century.
To me the issue is pretty simple - everyone has the right to a free conscience/religion and no one, if you truly believe in freedom, has the right to be slaming other people especially when it comes to race, sex, creed, sexual orientation and physical disabilities.
If you want your Christian religions to operate freely in this country then, all must also tolerate other forms of religions and other forms of free conscience as long as they are not a serious risk to the health and safety of the public.
hawk
And, of course, society shoving pro-homo propaganda, images, and "youth counselling" down the poor kids' throats.
IOW, the "Try It, You'll Like It" method.
Pure and utter crapola. You speak like a true homo-apolgist. The stupid meaningless word "homophobia" was invented by the friendly folks at the "gay" agenda to silence discussion about same sex acts and the people who do them. People who consider the "gay" agenda dangerous do not have that determined viewpoint because they are afraid they "are one"! LOL!
Or this: these individuals can INDULGE sexual attractions of varying sorts. And even your use of the word "develop" indicate a chioce.
Of course, what is needed is a lot of hard biological research results. Whenever cadavers are available for autopsy and tissue examination, do analysis of brain structure.
First of all, there's no guarantee that looking at a dead preserved brain will shed light on the behavior and choices of the person who used to inhabit the body. Second, even if all kinds of people who used to practice same sex acts do have some kind of brain difference (which is highly unlikely) there is every chance that the brain difference could have been CAUSED by their same sex behavior.
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