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Orrin Hatch addresses immigrants(Illegal aliens)
Salt Lake Tribune ^ | 9/52003 | Christopher Smith

Posted on 09/05/2003 5:51:28 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak

WASHINGTON--Speaking at a rally of young undocumented immigrants who are urging Congress to allow them to attend public colleges at in-state tuition prices, Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said the country will "benefit enormously" by opening college classes to the children of people who entered the U.S. illegaly.

"We can choose either to keep these talented young people underground or we can choose to give them a chance to contribute to the United States," Hatch said at a Capitol Hill news conference Thursday to urge support of his "DREAM Act," the Development, Relief, and Education For Alien Minors Act.

The Bill sponsored by the Utah Republican and Sen. Dick Durban, D-Ill., would repeal a section of federal law preventing states from granting in-state tuition rates to non-U.S citizens who do not have proof they entered the country legally.

It also would grant pemanent U.S. residency status to immigrants who came to the United States prior to the age 16, have lived in the country at least five years, are "of good moral character" and earn a college degree, complete at least two years of college, serve in the U.S. miltary or perform community service.

"SNIP"

One of Congress' most outspoken critics of granting benefits of U.S. citizenship to undocumented immigrants, Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Col., told a political magazine recently that both parties in Congress have been co-opted by a "cult of multiculturalism."

"There is no greater gap betWeen what the people of this country want and what the Congress is going to give them than there is on the issue of immigration...."

(Excerpt) Read more at sltrib.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: 225; durbin; illegal; illegals; republicanturncoats; rinos
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Well...this is a little confusing

The two grafs below from the Salt Lake City Trib seem to say that first; the wetbacks get low tuition but, second; they have to display some pretty positive behavior before becoming permanent residents.

Doesn't sound too bad to me!

The bill sponsored by the Utah Republican and Sen. Dick Durban, D-Ill., would repeal a section of federal law preventing states from granting in-state tuition rates to non-U.S. citizens who do not have proof they entered the country legally.

It also would grant permanent U.S. residency status to immigrants who came to the United States prior to age 16, have lived in the country at least five years, are "of good moral character" and earn a college degree, complete at least two years of college, serve in the U.S. military or perform community service.

21 posted on 09/05/2003 6:21:13 PM PDT by JimVT
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To: BluH2o
A Salute and a BUMP to you, Sir.
22 posted on 09/05/2003 6:21:17 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Shame on Hatch!!!! He should be getting bags of mail from everyone to condemn him.
23 posted on 09/05/2003 6:24:58 PM PDT by LADY J
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To: Southack; Torie

Speaking of Republicans who are out of touch on Illegals, checkout Senator Hatch and his tuition tar baby.

24 posted on 09/05/2003 6:26:20 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Arnold wants Illegals to be legalized... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/971733/posts)
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To: Paulus Invictus
This in conjunction with his other terrible idea, that foreign born naturalized citizens should be allowed to become President, really adds up to lunacy! Or, maybe it adds up to bribe? Whatever it is, it stinks!
So snail mail is all that is looked at. Good tip!
25 posted on 09/05/2003 6:26:33 PM PDT by LibertyAndJusticeForAll
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To: JimVT
Shouldn't Orrin Hatch be worrying about LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS? And please no "wetback" stuff on these threads.
26 posted on 09/05/2003 6:27:41 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
YEAH! Let's hear it for our team! Go Republicans!

gutless sell outs

27 posted on 09/05/2003 6:27:55 PM PDT by A Navy Vet (Government is the problem, not the solution!)
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To: Sabertooth
They are all gotta go Sabe....all of 'em.(almost)
28 posted on 09/05/2003 6:30:09 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Sabertooth
Well.... how come Americans from other states don't qualify for in-state tuition? If this stupid bill passes AND President Bush signs it into law, we should consider a lawsuit on 14th Amendment grounds. Perhaps FAIR will file one in the event that it does. It makes me sick to see Washington Republicans like Orrin Hatch pander to illegal aliens. Even Arnold gets the public mood about it here in California in opposing SB 60. You would expect Hatch to understand but naw. Its too bad we can't recall Federal officials from office - now THAT would make them understand.
29 posted on 09/05/2003 6:32:24 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: A Navy Vet
Amen.
30 posted on 09/05/2003 6:33:28 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
The Bill sponsored by the Utah Republican and Sen. Dick Durban, D-Ill., would repeal a section of federal law preventing states from granting in-state tuition rates to non-U.S citizens who do not have proof they entered the country legally.

Is it too much to hope for that liberals, and college-age children of liberals who are themselves liberals, will rise up and protest this flagrant middle finger to American citizens?

Say what you will about Michael Savage, but on this issue he is spot on.....Never mind Al Quaeda; fear the enemy within. They're coming at us from all quarters, Democrat and Republican. All 'benefits' of citizenship are evaporating before our eyes and the Commander in Chief does nothing.

31 posted on 09/05/2003 6:35:28 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
30+ posts without a bleeding heart or a race baiter....wow.
32 posted on 09/05/2003 6:35:43 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Lizavetta
.....the Commander in Cheif does nothing.

Exactly.

33 posted on 09/05/2003 6:37:03 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: Travis McGee; DoughtyOne; Joe Hadenuf
peaking at a rally of young undocumented immigrants who are urging Congress to allow them to attend public colleges at in-state tuition prices, Sen. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, said the country will "benefit enormously" by opening college classes to the children of people who entered the U.S. illegaly.

See how important it is to elect Republicans? </ sarcasm>

34 posted on 09/05/2003 6:46:35 PM PDT by ambrose (Fight The Real Enemy...)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
A US senator at a rally of illegal aliens, and no INS raid to round them up and deport them? Forgive me, I have this persistent illusion that we live in a nation of laws...
35 posted on 09/05/2003 6:46:49 PM PDT by TheDon (Tick, tock, tick, tock...the sound of the clock ticking down the time until Tom drops out.)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
Yep. He was smart enuf to make millions BEFORE he ran for office, though, so he cannot be bought..
36 posted on 09/05/2003 7:00:16 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals (As long as the sociopath Clintons are breathing, we are in grave danger.Bill is just the opening act)
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To: Ben Ficklin
The only deal Hillary is worried about is HER DEAL.
37 posted on 09/05/2003 7:04:43 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: TheDon
The world has turned upside down.
38 posted on 09/05/2003 7:14:00 PM PDT by ambrose (Fight The Real Enemy...)
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To: 4.1O dana super trac pak
And please no "wetback" stuff on these threads.

¿Tiene usted un problema con "wetbacks?"

OPERATION WETBACK. Operation Wetback was a repatriation project of the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service to remove illegal Mexican immigrants ("wetbacks") from the Southwest. During the first decades of the twentieth century, the majority of migrant workers who crossed the border illegally did not have adequate protection against exploitation by American farmers.

As a result of the Good Neighbor Policy, Mexico and the United States began negotiating an accord to protect the rights of Mexican agricultural workers. Continuing discussions and modifications of the agreement were so successful that the Congress chose to formalize the "temporary" program into the Bracero program,qv authorized by Public Law 78. In the early 1940s, while the program was being viewed as a success in both countries, Mexico excluded Texas from the labor-exchange program on the grounds of widespread violation of contracts, discrimination against migrant workers, and such violations of their civil rights as perfunctory arrests for petty causes.

Oblivious to the Mexican charges, some grower organizations in Texas continued to hire illegal Mexican workers and violate such mandates of PL 78 as the requirement to provide workers transportation costs from and to Mexico, fair and lawful wages, housing, and health services. World War IIqv and the postwar period exacerbated the Mexican exodus to the United States, as the demand for cheap agricultural laborers increased. Graft and corruption on both sides of the border enriched many Mexican officials as well as unethical "coyote" freelancers in the United States who promised contracts in Texas for the unsuspecting Bracero. Studies conducted over a period of several years indicate that the Bracero program increased the number of illegal aliens in Texas and the rest of the country.

Because of the low wages paid to legal, contracted braceros, many of them skipped out on their contracts either to return home or to work elsewhere for better wages as wetbacks.

Increasing grievances from various Mexican officials in the United States and Mexico prompted the Mexican government to rescind the bracero agreement and cease the export of Mexican workers. The United States Immigration Service, under pressure from various agricultural groups, retaliated against Mexico in 1951 by allowing thousands of illegals to cross the border, arresting them, and turning them over to the Texas Employment Commission,qv which delivered them to work for various grower groups in Texas and elsewhere. Over the long term, this action by the federal government, in violation of immigration laws and the agreement with Mexico, caused new problems for Texas. Between 1944 and 1954, "the decade of the wetback," the number of illegal aliens coming from Mexico increased by 6,000 percent. It is estimated that in 1954 before Operation Wetback got under way, more than a million workers had crossed the Rio Grande illegally. Cheap labor displaced native agricultural workers, and increased violation of labor laws and discrimination encouraged criminality, disease, and illiteracy.

According to a study conducted in 1950 by the President's Commission on Migratory Labor in Texas, the Rio Grande valleyqv cotton growers were paying approximately half of the wages paid elsewhere in Texas. In 1953 a McAllen newspaper clamored for justice in view of continuing criminal activities by wetbacks.

The resulting Operation Wetback, a national reaction against illegal immigration, began in Texas in mid-July 1954. Headed by the commissioner of Immigration and Naturalization Service, Gen. Joseph May Swing, the United States Border Patrol aided by municipal, county, state, and federal authorities, as well as the military, began a quasimilitary operation of search and seizure of all illegal immigrants. Fanning out from the lower Rio Grande valley, Operation Wetback moved northward. Illegal aliens were repatriated initially through Presidio because the Mexican city across the border, Ojinaga, had rail connections to the interior of Mexico by which workers could be quickly moved on to Durango. A major concern of the operation was to discourage reentry by moving the workers far into the interior.

Others were to be sent through El Paso. On July 15, the first day of the operation, 4,800 aliens were apprehended. Thereafter the daily totals dwindled to an average of about 1,100 a day. The forces used by the government were actually relatively small, perhaps no more than 700 men, but were exaggerated by border patrol officials who hoped to scare illegal workers into flight back to Mexico. Valley newspapers also exaggerated the size of the government forces for their own purposes: generally unfavorable editorials attacked the Border Patrol as an invading army seeking to deprive Valley farmers of their inexpensive labor force. While the numbers of deportees remained relatively high, the illegals were transported across the border on trucks and buses. As the pace of the operation slowed, deportation by sea began on the Emancipation, which ferried wetbacks from Port Isabel, Texas, to Veracruz, and on other ships. Ships were a preferred mode of transport because they carried the illegal workers farther away from the border than did buses, trucks, or trains. The boat lift continued until the drowning of seven deportees who jumped ship from the Mercurio provoked a mutiny and led to a public outcry against the practice in Mexico.

Other aliens, particularly those apprehended in the Midwest states, were flown to Brownsville and sent into Mexico from there. The operation trailed off in the fall of 1954 as INS funding began to run out.

It is difficult to estimate the number of illegal aliens forced to leave by the operation. The INS claimed as many as 1,300,000, though the number officially apprehended did not come anywhere near this total. The INS estimate rested on the claim that most aliens, fearing apprehension by the government, had voluntarily repatriated themselves before and during the operation. The San Antonio district, which included all of Texas outside of El Paso and the Trans-Pecos,qv had officially apprehended slightly more than 80,000 aliens, and local INS officials claimed that an additional 500,000 to 700,000 had fled to Mexico before the campaign began. Many commentators have considered these figure to be exaggerated. Various groups opposed any form of temporary labor in the United States. The American G.I. Forum,qv for instance, by and large had little or no sympathy for the man who crossed the border illegally. Apparently the Texas State Federation of Laborqv supported the G.I. Forum's position. Eventually the two organizations coproduced a study entitled What Price Wetbacks?, which concluded that illegal aliens in United States agriculture damaged the health of the American people, that illegals displaced American workers, that they harmed the retailers of McAllen, and that the open-border policy of the American government posed a threat to the security of the United States. Critics of Operation Wetback considered it xenophobic and heartless.

BIBLIOGRAPHY: Carl Allsup, The American G.I. Forum: Origins and Evolution (University of Texas Center for Mexican American Studies Monograph 6, Austin, 1982). Arnoldo De León, Mexican Americans in Texas: A Brief History (Arlington Heights, Illinois: Harlan Davidson, 1993). Juan Ramon Garcia, Operation Wetback: The Mass Deportation of Mexican Undocumented Workers in 1954 (Westport, Connecticut: Greenwood Press, 1980). Eleanor M. Hadley, "A Critical Analysis of the Wetback Problem," Law and Contemporary Problems 21 (Spring 1956). Saturday Evening Post, July 27, 1946. Julian Samora, Los Mojados: The Wetback Story (Notre Dame: University of Notre Dame Press, 1971). Fred L. Koestler Recommended citation: "OPERATION WETBACK." The Handbook of Texas Online. [Accessed Fri Sep 5 21:28:09 US/Central 2003 ].

39 posted on 09/05/2003 7:37:40 PM PDT by JimVT
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To: caisson71
Gets even better. Hatch is sponsoring legislation (maybe this is all connected)that would allow a naturalized citizen, who has lived in the US for at least 20 yrs, to become President. I called his office to let him know I am very much opposed to this. Further, I suggested, he spend time trying to fight the filibusters rather than on this type of issue.
40 posted on 09/05/2003 7:38:14 PM PDT by 4integrity (AJ)
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