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Sick 'baptism' before abortions
TotalCatholic.com ^ | September 2003

Posted on 09/05/2003 11:08:56 AM PDT by NYer

US abortionists are adopting a disturbing new tactic of promoting a 'baptism'' type ceremony for the aborted baby.

According a report in an American magazine, the new methods involve the use of language more commonly found in counselling for post-abortion syndrome as well as a ritual including a kind of baptism of the aborted baby.

Before the abortion, women are encouraged to express guilt, to write notes to their children about their feelings of empowerment, to grieve and express love for the child.

But US pro-life groups have reacted with disgust to the tactics and a spokesperson for the Campaign Life Catholic roundly condemned the strategy. 'This is the most diabolical twist to the abortion industry so far,' said the spokesperson. 'To use and deform the conscience, even invoking God's forgiveness for unrepented acts of murder, in order to sell their murderous service is a horrific violation of the women who go to them in trust.'


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KEYWORDS: abortion; abortionists; baptism; catechism
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Yeah, but I'm equally sure he ain't listening. Yet.
41 posted on 09/05/2003 12:40:30 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: SoothingDave
Murder combined with blasphemy. Lovely.
42 posted on 09/05/2003 12:41:27 PM PDT by Skooz (All Hail the Mighty Kansas City Chiefs)
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To: dead
Uh, do a google search on 'Doctor Tiller'. He is proud to include description of this process in his brochures to female humans contemplating his serial killer services. Think about what the process shows ... if the prenatal is being baptised or being addressed prior to the killing, the woman has bought into the notion that it is indeed a child she's hired someone to kill and she is seeking some absolution for something her conscience is screaming to her is wrong! Yet the serial killers are pushing this new way to confuse and disorient the woman and her conscience so the paid slaughter can proceed un encumbered.
43 posted on 09/05/2003 12:43:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Traffic_Can
Is the Roman collar supposed to give this stooge legitimacy?
44 posted on 09/05/2003 12:48:01 PM PDT by hardhead ('Curly, don't say its a fine morning or I'll shoot you.' - John Wayne, 'McLintock' 1963)
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To: BartMan1
This is still just utterly horrendous. It's ...heretical. They're admitting an unborn child is a human being, and that it has a soul, while giving a blessing they have no right to bestow on an act of murder! He!!, I don't have the words...I just can't absorb this.
45 posted on 09/05/2003 12:58:20 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: hardhead
"Is the Roman collar supposed to give this stooge legitimacy?"

Looks like they've got the costuming and props down pat.

46 posted on 09/05/2003 1:05:58 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: JohnGalt
You know what? I agree with you. You don't have a baptism or a burial or blessings for a lump of tissue. When was the last time you heard of anyone doing this for a tumor?

Sick as it sounds, they ought to offer this service at every abortion clinic. "You're killing your baby, but that's okay, we can give you spiritual help with that" just might be terrific reverse psychology.
47 posted on 09/05/2003 1:12:33 PM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: NYer
Again, when it comes to abortion, every advocate of abortion has already been BORN. He is inherently a hypocrite on the subject!
48 posted on 09/05/2003 1:56:33 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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To: FroedrickVonFreepenstein; joanie-f; Dukie; BibChr; Noumenon; logos; SLB; tommygun
The program offers individual counseling, group counseling and the celebration of spiritual sacraments such as baptism of the still born fetus and blessings for the aborted fetus.

God spare the rest of us from His wrath against this abominable and unbelievably sick perversion...they are now mocking God directly in their killing. As Thomas Jefferson said...

I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever.

49 posted on 09/05/2003 2:04:31 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: NYer
This is an insult to both life and death not to mention people of faith!All this because of liberal pandering for votes from women for the past 30+ years."Right to choose"huh?The right decision must also be a timely one so if they are so damn smart why could'nt that decision have been made when they decided to "drop em"!
50 posted on 09/05/2003 2:06:38 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: INSENSITIVE GUY
Let's not forget the WCC's rabidly leftward lean, too.
51 posted on 09/05/2003 2:13:29 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: NYer
INTREP
52 posted on 09/05/2003 2:28:16 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Jeff Head
That is appalling and disgusting, and insane on more levels than I can count.

Dan
53 posted on 09/05/2003 2:43:08 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: cake_crumb
Yeah, I know. The room spun , and I was sickened when I first read that piece by Bozell. In a way though, it points to a victory -- the admission by these soulless idiots that what they are doing is in fact killing unborn babies.

The cognitive dissonance that allows them to send a valentine to the child, and baptize it is not understandable to me, however.

54 posted on 09/05/2003 2:52:06 PM PDT by BartMan1
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To: BartMan1
"In a way though, it points to a victory -- the admission by these soulless idiots that what they are doing is in fact killing unborn babies."

Yeah, but the way they're going about doing it is like putting the patina of a religious service onto a ritual murder...making it like a religious sacrifice. I'm still having a problem taking it in. After I manage to assimilate this information, THEN I have to find out if there is ANY way in which it's illegal.

55 posted on 09/05/2003 3:11:15 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: BartMan1
"The cognitive dissonance that allows them to send a valentine to the child, and baptize it is not understandable to me, however."

Add some twisted idea of descendent worship to ritual sacrifice. At the least, it SHOULD be considered a cult defrauding it's members. At worst, it should be cinsidered premeditated murder, since it acknowledges that unborn babies are human beings with souls that require baptism and Christian burial and then kills them.

56 posted on 09/05/2003 3:20:20 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: NYer
I first I couldn't believe some people would be so dumb, but now it has been confirmed.

I am sickened.

57 posted on 09/05/2003 3:40:51 PM PDT by LowOiL (Roy Moore for King ! God Bless America !)
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