ABORTION-SLAY REV EXECUTED

New York Post ^ | 9/04/03 | GERSH KUNTZMAN

[kattracks]

September 4, 2003 -- As a violent thunderstorm flickered and dimmed the lights in Florida's execution chamber, a former minister was put to death last night for murdering an abortion doctor.

Paul Hill used his last breaths to call upon right-to-lifers to continue the fight - by any means necessary.

[Heartbreak of Psoriasis]

Where was the "fallacy of his doctrine?"

I see no internal inconsistency.

The Bible enjoins us many times over to kill those who would kill the innocent.

Was Joshua a murderer? No way! He's celebrated as a great and holy man. We name our children after him.

Yet, when Hill guns down a man who had murdered many, many innocents, then you would condemn him to life in solitary confinement.

Pro-Lifers can't have it both ways. Either the fetus really is a human being where all of the rules applicable to others apply - including the right to use force in defense of innocent life - or the fetus is not a full person and is some lesser life form that is not deserving of heightened protection.

Which is it, my friends?

If we truly accept that the fetus is a human being, then we cannot escape the conclusion that yesterday the gurney was raised to the level of the Cross.

Heartbreak

[mariejlt]

What if the doctor was described as a man being paid to murder small children by their parents? How would we feel aout Hill's action, if we relized the doctor was no more than a paid hit man, ?

I learn so much on this web site.. I had never thought about the fact that we do not see abortions,live on TV

[Hyacinth Bucket]

It's time for this dancing with language to end...Why not show 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions performed? Could it be the big, big, big lie would be ended sight on seen??? I'd love to see the to images juxtaposed: a third trimester abortion being performed and the execution of man who tried to stop such procedures.

I feel exactly the same way. I've always been against abortion but I was like many, in that, it was something that we just didn't talk about. But this is exactly what these baby killers want us to do. They want us to push abortion out of our minds so that they can continue with their gruesome deeds and money making schemes (body parts market-the older the baby the better).

To keep the abortion issue forefront in my mind, I forced myself one day, a few years ago, to look at some of the pictures of aborted babies available on some websites. To this day, I would never forget what I saw. I'm convinced that only people possessed by demons could possibly perform this procedure.

Is killing an abortionist an act of murder or is it a killing done much like at a time of war against people committing genocide?

Many people seem to already have a knee-jerk response to this question, hopefully because they've really thought about it hard, but I seriously doubt it. To be quite honest, the more I thought about it, the more I see it as the latter. I hope people don't misunderstand me because I'm really not advocating people to kill abortionists and I myself could never do it but abortion is genocide of the unborn babies and we should be declaring war against it.

Paul Hill paid for his crime with his life. This seems at least appropriate. We'll leave God to be the judge of his action.

[Godebert]

"One less murdering scumbag using up my oxygen. Good."

Two less....if you count the man that he killed.

[bitcon]

They should show an abortion being performed to every women considering one. When they see theres little hands and feet maybe they'll reconsider. For the the women who want a 3rd trimester abortion maybe seeing that the doctor has to pry the skull open and then suck the babies brains out to collapse the skull will make them realize that this isn't just a piece of flesh, it's a human life.

[MEG33]

Paul Hill was a self aggrandizing psychopathic killer.He received justice under our laws.I leave his soul up to God.

[MEG33]

He killed 2.

[Heartbreak of Psoriasis]

Please explain why Hill's killing of the abortionist wasn't justified as defense of innocent human life.

I really would like to hear a satisfactory explanation, because frankly speaking I don't like holding the position that logic compels me to adopt.

I await your considered reply.

[Hyacinth Bucket]

Pro-Lifers can't have it both ways. Either the fetus really is a human being where all of the rules applicable to others apply - including the right to use force in defense of innocent life - or the fetus is not a full person and is some lesser life form that is not deserving of heightened protection.

Well said. You really got to the heart of the issue.

[AmericaUnited]

If he really, truly believed that abortion is murder, I think that he can defend his actions before God.

Not really. There are going to be a lot of really sincerely WRONG people trying that. Read this:

Matthew 7:22-23 "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? (We killed an abortion docter in your name) 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

[AmericaUnited]

God has ordained governmental authority to exact justice. Otherwise, we would all be doing what "we think is right" and there would be utter chaos. Murder is wrong but are we supposed to just go up to a murderer and pump a few rounds into them? Answer: NO!

[AmericaUnited]

The taking of any human life is murder.

You don't understand that killing and murder are not the same. In the Old Testament, God instructed people to kill. Since murder is sin, how could God tell people to sin? Duh! Obviously there is a difference.

[bitcon]

And for those of you who are gona come out and say "thou shall not kill" well from what I've heard from some people whom I trust on this subject, this is a mistranslation. Something about it being translated from Greek or another language that did not have different words for murder and kill.

[MEG33]

Justified by what and by whom?Your personal beliefs ?His personal belief? That isn't how we are allowed to behave in a society of laws.You may justify it ,I may justify it.The law calls it murder.Logic may compel you to adopt the attitude but acting like Paul Hill can get you executed.

[dasboot]

"Paul Hill is a dangerous psychopath," said Marti McKenzie, spokeswoman for several Florida women's clinics.

takes one to know one

[Momma Lou]

Thank you for saying so beautifully what I feel.
All day I heard Paul Hill being compared to El Quida. Both thinking that killing the enemy will guarantee a place in heaven. I see things differently. The 17 hijackers killed thousands to secure their place in heaven. Paul Hill killed one killer of hundreds of babies to secure his place in heaven. Paul Hill is a martyr.

[Heartbreak of Psoriasis]

God has ordained governmental authority to exact justice. Otherwise, we would all be doing what "we think is right" and there would be utter chaos. Murder is wrong but are we supposed to just go up to a murderer and pump a few rounds into them? Answer: NO! That's taking government authority too far. Both the Nazis and the Bolsheviks acted under color of law. Did that make the genocides they committed lawful? Clearly, it did not. After all, no state authority is above the Natural Law, and indeed all states maintain their authority only upon condition that they do not stray too far from the same. The Nazis and the Bolsheviks were illegitimate authority because they condoned murder (including being the first abortion proponents) and other crimes against God's Natural Law. The Natural Law dictates that one may defend oneself meeting force with force, and by extension that one may vindicate the right of self defense of the innocent. No state may deny that God-given right and then claim legitimate authority. Any state, including our own, that denies the most basic protections to all human beings under its jurisdiciton thereby forfeits all authority over us. Your position would justify as God's will any tryant's most arbitrary action. This is simply out of the question, especially for any American who believes that all of our rights spring directly from Nature, and Nature's God. I see no way around concluding that Hill acted the way his conscience, guided by logic and I don't doubt by prayerful reflection, dictated. Who was it who said "he is a slave who will not speak for the fallen and the weak?" By that standard, Hill died a free man.

[Long Cut]

Hill's comission of murder prevented not a single abortion. Those wishing one simply went elsewhere.

Watch out before making him some sort of martyr. He WANTED to kill a human being, and stated that he would also have shot any police officers who got in his way. He was a psychopathic killer; the prolife cause was only his excuse.

He now goes to join his moral brethren in Al Queda and the ELF. Society will not miss him.