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1 posted on 09/03/2003 10:24:53 PM PDT by Pikamax
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L. Ron Hubbard when he was still alive probably said many times , "You mean they actually believe in this sh!t?"
2 posted on 09/03/2003 10:28:45 PM PDT by dfwgator
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INTREP
3 posted on 09/03/2003 10:38:53 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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That "Fishman" link in the story didn't work. This is David Touretzky's site on Scientology. Interesting stuff on there.

xenu.net is the main anti-Scientology website out there.
5 posted on 09/03/2003 10:45:31 PM PDT by lelio
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Not really surprising. Scientology, or more properly Dianetics, started as a school of quack psychiatry. They became a "religion" to get the government off their backs about practising medicine without a license.
6 posted on 09/03/2003 10:47:59 PM PDT by Salman (Mickey Akbar)
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And the weirdest part? New converts to Scientology's Sea Org (organization) sign a contract with a term of one billion years, over multiple lifetimes.
8 posted on 09/03/2003 11:34:07 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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Brainwashing for money. A very scary organizaton.
10 posted on 09/03/2003 11:40:58 PM PDT by Be active
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When those geeks approached me back in the 60's they would always point out someone there who had 'made millions' with $cientology.

Money seemed to be the only driving force!
Freaks!

13 posted on 09/04/2003 1:24:34 AM PDT by rockfish59
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The "church" is under scrutiny for this practice and is being sued by the family of Lisa McPherson, who died in 1995 in Clearwater, Fla., allegedly after being held for 17 days as she underwent an "Introspection Rundown."

Looks like Scientology is making a big push in Florida

FLORIDA POLITICIANS AND OFFICIALS  LENDING UNDUE CREDIBILITY TO SCIENTOLOGY

From a recent St. Petersburg Times editorial: Some Tampa Bay area public figures who lately have sounded like supporters and defenders of the [Scientology] church - including Pinellas County Commissioner Susan Latvala and political consultant Mary Repper - should know of those hazards. So should Tampa Mayor Pam Iorio, who accepted campaign support from Scientologists earlier this year and recently had dinner with actor Tom Cruise, a celebrity Scientologist, at Repper's house.

16 posted on 09/04/2003 2:44:50 PM PDT by syriacus (Is Terri suffering from severe depression, on top of the insult to her brain?)
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bump for reading tonight....
19 posted on 09/04/2003 2:51:09 PM PDT by kimmie7 (Stand up, stand up for Jesus ye soldiers of the Cross! Pray for Terri Schiavo!)
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Instead, the Scientologists are subjected to the "Introspection Rundown," an "intensive, rigorous Religious Service that includes being isolated from all sources of potential spiritual upset, including but not limited to family members, friends or others."

Also known as "the Full McPherson."

21 posted on 09/04/2003 2:54:09 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm not always cranky.)
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Here's my proposal.

We're currently in a fight to the death against the forces of radical Islam. Problem is, our people in the West have gone soft: they are unable to muster sufficient aggression to counter the Islamokazes.

Scientologists, on the other hand, are anything but soft. Their founder was stark raving mad, just like the "Seal of the Prophets" his own self, and the membership will crawl over broken glass if so ordered by the "Church" elders.

Solution: form anti-Islamokaze shock troops from the ranks of Scientologists. These are absolutely ruthless people who stop at nothing.

The danger, of course, is that the new "Scientologist Shock Troops" will be too successful. If they vanquish and then convert the Muslims, it'll be L. Ron Hubbard on steroids!
49 posted on 09/19/2003 8:01:26 AM PDT by tictoc
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SCIENTOLOGY IS A WELL FUNDED CULT... NOTHING MORE.
51 posted on 09/19/2003 8:13:31 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Amazing. People too stupid to even be Mooslims. I didn't think it was possible.
60 posted on 09/19/2003 9:59:36 AM PDT by Hank Rearden (Dick Gephardt. Before he dicks you.)
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You cannot sign away your rights.
70 posted on 09/19/2003 10:26:22 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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So? What is the problem?

Just remember, there is a chair for every ass in America.

94 posted on 09/19/2003 2:42:54 PM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Anyone who accepts the LA Times as the truth has no business calling anyone a RINO.)
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Send in Reno and the tanks. We have a dangerous cult here.
96 posted on 09/19/2003 2:46:44 PM PDT by Stew Padasso (Who is the tag whore now!)
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I was in Scientology for a couple of years in the 70's. On staff even. Got out. What got me out was that the Hubster defined scientology as "The science of knowing how to know" - and yet, he just pulled this sh-t right out of his ass. There is NO science involved at all.

The stuff that pulls people in is the low level stuff, which is actually kind of useful, imho. But the upper levels are sci-fi. A useful usenet newsgroup is alt.religion.scientology.

Very expensive. Very flawed. Hubbard was an insane genius. My summation of scientology - a fool and his money are soon parted.

100 posted on 09/19/2003 2:53:23 PM PDT by searchandrecovery (It just doesn't matter. It just doesn't matter.)
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One is a release form a Scientologist seeking advanced training must sign "forever [giving] up [the] right to sue the church and its staff for any injury or damage suffered in any way connected with Scientology."

But that's for civil suits, it seems? Fraud is criminal. You complain to the DA and, he prosecutes 'em after a grand jury indicts them. Besides, if "the church" breaks any law in doing what they do to you, that you can't sue for, that wouldn't be covered under the release, right?

154 posted on 09/22/2003 4:38:20 PM PDT by William Terrell (Individuals can exist without government but government can't exist without individuals.)
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The same agreement prohibits "any psychiatrist, medical person, designated member of the state or family member" from placing the Scientologist into a hospital or facility for psychiatric treatment.

Meaningless. No psychiatrist or medical person would sign such a document, and would probably be sued for attempting to honor it anyway.

Scientologists are scum.

162 posted on 09/23/2003 3:00:21 PM PDT by strela (I wonder if Tom McClintock will have to "make a reservation" to pay back all that money?)
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My hero with respect to the issue is Bob Minton. He puts his money where his mouth and heart is. He is a one man crusade against the so-called church. Do a search on google. The story is interesting.
170 posted on 09/24/2003 9:14:07 AM PDT by Final Authority
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