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Olbermann Denigrates FNC as Bunch of McCarthyistic "Demagogues"
MRC ^ | Wednesday, September 03, 2003 | BrentBaker

Posted on 09/03/2003 12:41:41 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay

MSNBC's Keith Olbermann, who once said that Ken Starr reminded him of the Nazi Heinrich Himmler, on Tuesday night, during a session with left-wing ranter Al Franken, denigrated the Fox News Channel as a bunch of "demagogues." Recalling how past demagogues like Joe McCarthy have "self-destructed," Olbermann raised the unsuccessful lawsuit against Franken for using the "fair and balanced" phrase and queried Franken: "Did you get some kind of comfort from this laughable lawsuit that maybe the latest set of demagogues are starting to fray at the edges and maybe headed towards self-destruction?"

Olbermann wrapped up the September 2 Countdown segment by gleefully holding up a mock T-shirt with "FAUX NEWS" in the a design matching the actual Fox News Channel logo, and below the graphic this play on FNC's "we report, you decide" slogan: "We Distort. You Comply."

(Not enough people watch MSNBC for anyone to bother to make T- shirts mocking it.)

Olbermann set up the segment with Franken, author of the new book, Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them, A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right, which MRC analyst Brad Wilmouth caught: "Back with the Countdown, and the number two story on it, and joining us now is a veteran of three overseas tours with the USO, a frequent speaker before conservative corporations, and a man whose latest book of political analysis has become America's best- selling work of non-fiction thanks mostly to the efforts of the Fox News Channel. And if that introduction doesn't show you how a little truth and a little selectivity can mislead somebody, Al Franken, I don't know what could."

Olbermann's first question: "I must ask you the same question that I asked your attorney, Floyd Abrams, when he was on with me on the Today show. Are you disappointed that Fox's lawsuit against your book was dismissed so quickly so you couldn't get even more free publicity from them?" Franken talked about how the lawsuit was literally, not figuratively laughed out of court.

Olbermann impugned FNC: "And that's something else besides simply a court victory to have it, as you say, literally as opposed to figuratively. On the same score, I was thinking as I read the book about the long history of political demagoguery in this country on the right and on the left, and it occurs to me that every one of the demagogues, or every set of demagogues, from like Aaron Byrd [?] or Father Coughlin to Joe McCarthy, have at some point self-destructed. Did you get some kind of comfort from this laughable lawsuit that maybe the latest set of demagogues are starting to fray at the edges and maybe headed towards self- destruction?"

Olbermann soon opined: "We have a plug we need to get in, by the way. If you want to read part of Al's book, the introduction, in fact, is posted on our MSNBC Web site. It is a tremendous introduction, mentions Samuel Tilden, the one and only Ann Coulter -- we hope, the one and only Ann Coulter -- hot Asian teens, and God -- in fact, it mentions God 28 times, in fact. We counted. And we have one thing, if you want to look at the monitor, we have something for you for coming on the program, a lovely parting gift from our friends at agitproperties, who were also sued by Fox News because they printed this T-shirt reading 'Faux News,'so we've never given out a thank you present to a gift, but for you, Al Franken, we wanted to, we're going to send you-"
Franken quipped: "Well, how did that suit go?"
Olbermann: "They're still in court, apparently. But we may have -- just show it again, we'll give them a little bit more free publicity. There we go. And they also have one about 'O'Reilly Youth.' We can send you one of those, too. Al, thanks very much for your time, congratulations, and may the next book get same kind of out-of-the-blue bolt-of-lightning kind of publicity from some other moron."

Olbermann should be able to identify demagogues. In a previous stint with MSNBC Olbermann opined that "the person Ken Starr has reminded me of facially all this time was Heinrich Himmler" and wondered that if Starr continued to pursue President Clinton, "would not there be some sort of comparison to a persecutor as opposed to a prosecutor for Mr. Starr?"

As host of the Big Show with Keith Olbermann in the very same time slot as Countdown with Keith Olbermann (8pm EDT) on the very same network on August 18, 1998, Olbermann "asked" then-Chicago Tribune Washington Bureau Chief James Warren shortly after President Clinton's non-apology apology speech:
"Can Ken Starr ignore the apparent breadth of the sympathetic response to the President's speech? Facially, it finally dawned on me that the person Ken Starr has reminded me of facially all this time was Heinrich Himmler, including the glasses. If he now pursues the President of the United States, who, however flawed his apology was, came out and invoked God, family, his daughter, a political conspiracy and everything but the kitchen sink, would not there be some sort of comparison to a persecutor as opposed to a prosecutor for Mr. Starr?"

That won the "I'm a Compassionate Liberal But I Wish You Were All Dead Award (for media hatred of conservatives)" in the MRC's very first DisHonors Awards. To watch a RealPlayer clip of it:
http://www.mrc.org/notablequotables/dishonor1999/welcomeaward6.asp


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Tuesday was Fox’s night

Fox won the key adult demographics and total viewers Tuesday night. For the night, June 2, the Nielsen Media Research fast-affiliate total-viewer averages: Fox 8 million, CBS 7.3 million, NBC 7 million and ABC 6.7 million.- BroadcastingCable.com

hmmmm...where's MSNBC?

1 posted on 09/03/2003 12:41:41 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay
Kieth Olbermann has never had anything positive to say about anyone.
2 posted on 09/03/2003 12:44:16 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (More Americans 18-49 Watch The Cartoon Network than CNN!!!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Wasn't this the guy who fired Norm MacDonald for making jokes about his friend OJ on SNL?
3 posted on 09/03/2003 12:45:12 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: fight_truth_decay
Keith gets the viewers who watch Hardball..(g)
4 posted on 09/03/2003 12:47:36 PM PDT by ken5050
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To: fight_truth_decay
"Did you get some kind of comfort from this laughable lawsuit that maybe the latest set of demagogues are starting to fray at the edges and maybe headed towards self-destruction?"

He's just doing visualization therapy. Maybe if he wishes really, REALLY hard, and screws his eyes up really tight while he wishes, maybe MSNBC MIGHT catch Fox in the ratings?
......

LOL
5 posted on 09/03/2003 12:52:04 PM PDT by I still care
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To: fight_truth_decay
I honestly started to get sick of O'Reilly, was never a H&C fan, and had no interest in some of the topics being covered by Van Susteren so I decided to watch MSNBC. Their prime time programs are not that bad but I'm constantly hearing stories about O'Reilly and Fox. If I wanted more Fox and O'Reilly, I know where the channels are. Stick to the news, guys.
6 posted on 09/03/2003 12:52:30 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: fight_truth_decay
And for those that might have missed it, I heard the cartoon network beat out CNN last week.

Ha!
7 posted on 09/03/2003 12:53:35 PM PDT by I still care
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To: fight_truth_decay
I believe those numbers are for the FOX broadcast network, not the FOX News Channel cable station.

NFP

8 posted on 09/03/2003 12:53:36 PM PDT by Notforprophet (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who can read binary and those who can't.)
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To: ken5050
Olbermann was hired so Wussy Matthews doesnt have the lowest rated show there. And - who is he to talk about resembling Himmler?


9 posted on 09/03/2003 1:01:23 PM PDT by capydick ("We're the party that wants to see an America in which people can still get rich.")
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To: fight_truth_decay
Don't waste your time worrying about him.

Olbermann has been a nasty, pontificating, arogant know-it-all since his days doing local sports in L.A. Always had to take digs at sports people (players, coaches, etc.), especially when they were down. Complete and utter bore.
10 posted on 09/03/2003 1:03:30 PM PDT by Cousin Eddie
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ... I don't think Keith has read Treason by Ann Coulter.

Hb

11 posted on 09/03/2003 1:05:09 PM PDT by Hoverbug (whadda ya mean, "we don't get parachutes"!?!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
I do watch Scarborough a lot though. I wish FOX could find a spot for him.
13 posted on 09/03/2003 1:23:40 PM PDT by zygoat
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To: fight_truth_decay
Olbermann is a left-wing demagogue but he was exactly right...O'Reilly is a ticking bomb inside Fox, a raving egomaniac who will eventually self-destruct.
14 posted on 09/03/2003 1:39:22 PM PDT by montag813
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To: .cnI redruM
Kieth Olbermann has never had anything positive to say about anyone.

He has syphyllis on the brain, and verbal diaharrea.

15 posted on 09/03/2003 1:49:41 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: montag813
O'Reilly is a ticking bomb inside Fox, a raving egomaniac who will eventually self-destruct.

When O'Reilly comes on, I set the poverbial egg-timer for an hour and move on.

16 posted on 09/03/2003 1:53:44 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Is this the same guy who used to work for ESPN??? I am baffled at his credentials to speak so about anyone....reminds me of the brain-trust, Al Franken. I mean, after all, who would know more about how to run a country than someone whose has a job making us laugh! There hasn't been such a great comedian in office since Bill Clinton!
17 posted on 09/03/2003 1:54:48 PM PDT by 4everontheRight (Nobody gets in to see the wizard! Not Nobody, Not no how!)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Who is this Keith Oldbearbum.. is he on television or something? Never heard of him.
18 posted on 09/03/2003 1:57:20 PM PDT by Richard Axtell
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To: ken5050
Keith gets the viewers who watch Hardball.

Oops.

Let me fix that for you big guy.

Keith gets the viewer who watches Hardball.

Allllllrightythen?

19 posted on 09/03/2003 1:59:39 PM PDT by N. Theknow (A Rose by any other name would be Shoeless Joe Jackson)
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To: Cousin Eddie
he can be a little funny....much more than that buck-toothed Franken...was he EVER funny???

Mostly Keith is just a mean nasty cynic. Scarborough ROCKS though!

20 posted on 09/03/2003 2:01:13 PM PDT by Ann Archy
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