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McClintock Key to Democratic Victory in California
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| 9/2/3
| Bob Chandra
Posted on 09/02/2003 4:21:28 PM PDT by socal_parrot
A Democratic plot to boost Tom McClintocks candidacy at Arnold Schwarzeneggers expense has recently come to light.
On paper, the recall election should be a cakewalk for California Republicans. A cursory analysis reveals a governor with an approval rating below Richard Nixon at his low point. The only serious Democrat candidate is the states uninspiring lieutenant governor, Cruz Bustamante, who unquestioningly followed Governor Davis through his mishaps with the budget and energy crisis. It should be a breeze for Republicans, right? Think again. Democrats are euphoric over Tom McClintocks intransigence in continuing his long-shot bid for governor. This allows Democrats to divide and conquer their way into office. Democrats are attempting to snatch victory from the jaws of defeat and Tom McClintock is an essential part of their game plan.
For starters, Democrats know McClintock cannot win. They know that he has ran for statewide office twice before and lost both times. McClintocks problem is not so much that hes unknown but that Californians know about him and have rejected his candidacy time and again. Knowing this, a Democrat plot to boost McClintocks candidacy at Schwarzeneggers expense has already surfaced. According to the Sacramento Bees Daniel Weintraub, Ever since Cruz Bustamante entered the race, it's been assumed that California's Indian tribes were going to pool their money and do independent expenditures on his behalf, expensive ads that get around the $21,000 limit on contributions. Now I am hearing rumblings that the Indians might think about helping Cruz in a more creative way as well. If they spent, say, $4 million on behalf of state Sen. Tom McClintock, the most conservative Republican in the race, they might pump McClintock's numbers up while hurting Arnold and not harming Cruz a bit. Remember, Cruz needs a split GOP vote to win. That would be one way to get it. The reliably Democratic Indian tribes, loyal to Bustamante, would essentially throw their weight behind McClintock to chip away at the support of Arnold Schwarzenegger, the GOP front-runner. The Democrat strategy with regard to Tom McClintock is: If you know you can beat em, join em.
McClintock is unfazed by this conniving scheme and is more than happy to play along. His actions suggest that hes willing to make allies with loyal Democratic groups under the logic, the enemy of my enemy (Arnold Schwarzenegger) is my friend. On August 28th, McClintock and Bustamante went together before the California Nations Indian Gaming Association to pledge their support. Needless to say, money will follow. Whether McClintock knows it or not, hes being used by the Left. If Democrat allies can keep McClintock in the game, they can put a cap on Arnolds support. A recent Los Angeles Times poll shows Bustamante with 35% of the vote and McClintock with 12%. The poll indicates that McClintock will lose decisively but more importantly, his vote will ensure that GOP front-runner Schwarzenegger loses as well.
It doesnt have to be this way. McClintock could see the light and do whats best for the party as Bill Simon did by bowing out of the race. Other than his new Democratic support, the picture continues to grow bleaker for McClintock. The Washington Post and Sacramento Bee are reporting that there will be a record turnout for the recall election. This invalidates the early calculus by McClintock supporters - that in a low turnout election, grassroots could carry the day. Further, the base is growing more familiar with Schwarzeneggers conservatism Arnold came out against partial-birth abortion, against gay marriage, and for a constitutional spending cap.
There comes a time when personal ambition must be set aside and self-affirming but false justifications for ones candidacy need to be reexamined. If McClintock stays in the California Senate, and assuming Arnold wins the governorship, he and Arnold could play the good-cop/bad-cop routine to perfection, mirroring President Bush and Tom Delays efforts at the national level. Additionally, McClintock may be well positioned to challenge Barbara Boxer in next years US Senate race. However, if McClintock persists with his spoiler campaign and throws the election to Bustamante, it is doubtful he will have any political capital for a future race.
But assuming things stay the way they are, with McClintocks help, Bustamante and the Democrats may well pull off an upset of a lifetime on Election Day.
TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: arnold; cruz; dupes; mcclintites; mcjeffords; plot; rats; recall; stooges; tom
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To: Lx
You been scratched, dude.
541
posted on
09/02/2003 8:27:41 PM PDT
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~RINOs can eat my shorts - and you don't want to know when I washed 'em last~)
To: fieldmarshaldj
Can you not read? When I posted to you I told you that I used to live in CA, still own property there, and have a daughter there. In fact, I am very interested in what happens in CA since I have a vested interest in the State.
542
posted on
09/02/2003 8:27:42 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
(Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too!)
To: BunnySlippers
Sure has a greasy snake oil feel to it, doesn't it.
543
posted on
09/02/2003 8:27:45 PM PDT
by
Quix
(DEFEAT her unroyal lowness, her hideous heinous Bwitch Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de MarxNOW)
To: fieldmarshaldj
I wouldn't make an attempt at wit I understand. Work on the walking and chewing gum thing first.
544
posted on
09/02/2003 8:28:24 PM PDT
by
strela
(It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
To: Reagan Man
Bob Chandra is a Bay Area Republican activist. He was involved as a strategist for Linda Rae Hermann's campaign against Mike Honda for California's 15th congressional district, and he currently serves as a commissioner for the Saratoga library.
He has TWO pieces linked on the WHOLE Internet, Both Pro-Arnold Puff. The first one is titled, "Arnold Is No Liberal". This thread is the second article.
I like this Blurb:
"There are some who call Arnold a "compromise candidate". But given his past actions and statements, it's clear that a strong streak of conservatism runs through him. At very least, he is no "liberal"."
This is a bad Felini film right?
To: strela
I'm glad you're so concerned. Some of us actually do other things away from FR than clog productive McClintock threads with unadulerated hate of Republicans and obsessions over the size and shape of their lips. ;-)
546
posted on
09/02/2003 8:29:31 PM PDT
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~RINOs can eat my shorts - and you don't want to know when I washed 'em last~)
To: strela
In fact, let me BUMP it myself.
To: fieldmarshaldj
Hmmm, when did I go "native," let's see, I voted for George Bush twice, Bob Dole, and George W. Bush, and helped kick Mario Cuomo out of the governor's mansion of New York and elect Rudy Giuliani mayor of New York.
I suppose you couldn't have voted for any of that "RINO" crowd, eh?
Hmm, when did I go "native," must have been in the last half hour, and all thanks to you LOL!
To: fieldmarshaldj
I didn't even bring Arnold into the equation with my two Senators. I was talking about some of the folks posting on here for McClintock not Arnold they are way to the right of my two Senators!
549
posted on
09/02/2003 8:30:20 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
(Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too!)
Comment #550 Removed by Moderator
To: sruleoflaw
I CALLED ASSEMBLYMAN HAYNES' OFFICE IN SACRAMENTO TODAY TO EXPRESS MY DISAPPOINTMENT AT HIS APPARENT SUPPORT FOR MR. SCHWARZENEGGER. Well, there is no support for Arnold from Assemblyman Haynes. Ray Haynes HAS NOT ENDORSED ARNOLD FOR GOVERNOR -- SO YOUR ENTIRE LAUGHFUL THREAD ON SATURDAY WAS WRONG. I have absolutely no idea why you are aiming this at me. I have no idea who the hell "Assembyman Haynes" is and couldn't give a sh*t.
All I know, and all there is to know is this...
VIVA AZTLAN!
VIVA BUSTAMANTE!
VOTE Tom McClinton on Oct. 7th!!!
To: Behind Liberal Lines
Thank you. And here's a BUMP right back atcha.
552
posted on
09/02/2003 8:32:02 PM PDT
by
strela
(It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
To: fieldmarshaldj
"Now, now, I don't need you fantasizing about me. "
---
We don't need to. You kindly posted your picture on your page. Just as I imagined you. A true RINO.
To: fieldmarshaldj
Did you lack the attention you need when you were growing up? Because I can't figure out why you always have to post in BOLD.
554
posted on
09/02/2003 8:32:37 PM PDT
by
Tempest
(If you lay off of Arnold, I'll lay off of Tom. Bustamante is the real danger.)
To: Tempest
I'm stating a fact. Take a look at the makeup of RI's legislature. The GOP barely is above 10% of it there, clearly more 'Rat than CA. Looking at party registration is only part of the picture. For RI to have elected a Conservative Republican Governor SHOULD be an impossibility according to all the naysayers around here.
555
posted on
09/02/2003 8:32:51 PM PDT
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~RINOs can eat my shorts - and you don't want to know when I washed 'em last~)
To: Tempest
I
SUPPOSE
IF
ARNOLD loses his testicles; half his penis wrestling some movie set robot; 99% of his bank account and property; Shriver gets Fosterized by Grey Sewerwater Davis; Arnold literally then TERMINATES Grey Sewerwater Davis and gets arrested . . .
he
MIGHT
drop out of the race.
556
posted on
09/02/2003 8:33:01 PM PDT
by
Quix
(DEFEAT her unroyal lowness, her hideous heinous Bwitch Shrillery Antoinette de Fosterizer de MarxNOW)
To: montag813
I have no idea who the hell "Assemblyman Haynes" is and couldn't give a sh*t. Finally, a politician for whom the question "Boxers or Briefs?" is relevant.
557
posted on
09/02/2003 8:33:50 PM PDT
by
strela
(It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
To: fieldmarshaldj
Transferred out of the State but guess what -- still pay property taxes there so I have a vested interest in the State and what happens!
Can tell you have never been transferred. Still own a lot in the Texas Hill Country as well and take an interest in what happens there as well.
558
posted on
09/02/2003 8:34:06 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
(Alpha Omnicon Pi Mom too!)
To: strela
"The understanding that what happens in California affects the rest of the country."
Right ! (For once). The problem is that your comrades think non-CA residents (even ones such as I who have family/friends out there) aren't deserving of a say in this race. Are you going to condemn them as wrong ?
"(Actually, my first impulse was to say "comic relief," but there are still some good folks in Cali who don't deserve Grayout, MeCHA Boy, or two-time losers who can't fill out a check box correctly as their governor)."
Yet they DO deserve an Austrian Socialist who treats women (including his wife) like garbage ? Sounds like you do wish to inflict some harm on the state and its residents.
559
posted on
09/02/2003 8:36:55 PM PDT
by
fieldmarshaldj
(~RINOs can eat my shorts - and you don't want to know when I washed 'em last~)
To: montag813
His reference was to an article posted, quoting Haynes, and he doesn't consider the following an endorsement of Arnold.
McClintonites refuse to accept facts.
BTW I like your Aztlan map. I had another one, but that is not as detailed.
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State Assemblyman Ray Haynes is one of the most conservative members of the California legislature, but when he looks at the stakes involved in next months recall election here, the choice is clear. Hes for a Republican who can win.
Ill be real blunt, Haynes said in an interview. I was involved in the recall with Tom McClintock from the beginning, but I didnt get involved in this to hand the governorship over to [Democratic Lt. Gov.] Cruz Bustamante. Thats something I need to be cognizant of and other conservatives need to be cognizant of.
Haynes might be part of that effort. Im at the point, he said, of saying to McClintock, Show you can bring the resources to the table to win, or get out of the way.
State Senate Republican leader Jim Brulte reiterated this weekend his willingness to help talk second-tier GOP candidates out of the race. California will be no better off if Gray Davis is recalled and Republican candidates finish two, three and four, Brulte said.
Source:
http://www.msnbc.com/news/959891.asp?0cv=CB10&cp1=1
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