Seeking Info: Former MEChA Members

9.2.03 | Joe Hadenuf

[Joe Hadenuf]

Seeking information from former or active MECha members regarding California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante and his past ties to MECha in the 1970s in the area of Fresno State University.

Looking specifically for audio tape, photographs, notes from meetings, names of former associates within the organization, Bustamante's duties, activities etc within the organization.

Information will be used to cross reference existing information to determine inaccuracies or to help substantiate existing information.

Feel free email me through Free Republic.

[BenR2]

PRND21 is well-known to regulars on FR as an avowed supporter and advocate of Mexican "rights" and issues. He is avidly pro-immigration from Mexico, legal or illegal.


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You mean PRND21 is disloyal to American interests? Nothing new: He must be a Democratic office-holder.

[Pelham]

Ooo, I am stricken to the core with your witty insult. Did you think that up all by yourself? Maybe your boyfriend will help you out if he's not still sulking over the "cheap shot" and "lies" that have stung his sensitive ego.

[Poohbah]

Hey, lie about a friend of mine, and I'll flame you. Don't like it? Too bad. Next time, engage brain (assuming you actually have one) before pressing "Post."

[ought-six]

Excuse me?

[hchutch]

So, all you have when you are called on your bigotry is cheap shots and innuendo?

[FITZ]

Cesar Chavez's Farm Workers Union even opposed illegal immigration, as they understood it only hurt their own efforts at better working conditions.

People need to remember that Bustamante certainly had choices --- the UFW union was a Chicano group he could have joined if he was about trying to get Chicanos better wages and less exposed to pesticides ---- but they were a typical labor union movement and didn't call for the overthrow or destruction of the USA and race hate wasn't an element in that group --- so what attracted Bustamante to something promoting race hate and violence like MEChA?

[FITZ]

from the mexican political party

This is where culture matters --- how is Bustamante (or Davis) any different than any of the political leaders elected in Mexico? He wants the utilities nationalized, he wants the government to set prices on everything --- pretty much just like is done in Mexico --- and he has the solid support of the immigrants from Mexico. Bustamante is one big clue they didn't come here because they care what's in the Constitution.

[Admin Moderator]

Knock it off.

[Admin Moderator]

That goes for you too.

[Pelham]

So, all you have when you are called on your bigotry is cheap shots and innuendo?

Post this alledged bigotry, junior, so we can all appreciate your finely honed sense of politically incorrect thought. So far, all we have is you howling at me without anything to back it up. Making unattributed accusations of that sort was old back when Jesse Jackson perfected it, but maybe you think it's still got legs.

Personally, I think you just didn't like getting caught in your silly little "payback". That was a gem. I'd recommend you not procede to do exactly what you have been whining about next time, or at least wait a few days before you do. That will lower your chances of getting caught. But it was funny.

[Pelham]

You have delusions of adequacy, Poohpooh. I really don't care what insults you post. If you want to use your favorite lines from Jules Streicher, go for it. Must be something about similar minds thinking alike there.

[hchutch]

If you think I'm lying about you, PROVE IT. I PERSONALLY freepmailed Jim Robinson to have one of your more nasty posts aimed at Luis Gonzalez pulled a while back.

What are going to do, MAKE me stop thinking you're a bigot?

[PRND21]

Idiotic thread (vanity) that should have been pulled.
It makes us all look like DU basement dwellers and has discovered NOTHING other than FR has racist extremists and Cruz may be gay.

[AnimalLover]

Following are a couple of articles that lead me to
believe MEChA and La Voz de Aztlan need thorough
investigation.

Letter to the Editor
Re: Israel Attacks Aztlan

http://www.aztlan.net/aussieletter.htm

In Defense of La Voz de Aztlan

http://www.aztlan.net/oraculations.htm

[nosofar]

who TOLD YOU it was a club? - THEY say they are NOT a club BUT A MOVEMENT!

Do a search on MECHA. There are sites all over. Some sound more radical, some sounds like just a student club. It seems to me a mixed bag. So one person can legitimately say it's a racist group. Another person can legitimately say it's just a student organization. It depends on where you're looking and who's leading the particular chapter. I came across one site with photos of guys in black ski-masks (Sub-Commandante Marcos, et. al.) In some ways it sounds like they're just dressing up and playing at revolutionaries. There's probably enough fruitcakes to take seriously, though. Just my personal take.

[EUPHORIC]

We know what "MECHA" has to say. This is going around on the net and should serve as a response to "MECHA":

[PRND21]

Struck out?

[Joe Hadenuf]

Thanks, that received a nice round of applause here. LOL!

[PRND21]

Whiff!
I notice you share Cruz' position on unions. Ironic, eh?