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Seeking Info: Former MEChA Members
9.2.03 | Joe Hadenuf

Posted on 09/02/2003 12:11:53 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf

Seeking information from former or active MECha members regarding California Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante and his past ties to MECha in the 1970s in the area of Fresno State University.

Looking specifically for audio tape, photographs, notes from meetings, names of former associates within the organization, Bustamante's duties, activities etc within the organization.

Information will be used to cross reference existing information to determine inaccuracies or to help substantiate existing information.

Feel free email me through Free Republic.


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To: Joe Hadenuf
Just the fact that MEChA is pulling their race hate web sites for Bustamante shows how the Nazis are running from the truth about what they are. If it was a harmless little Chicano social group --- they wouldn't need to pull the web pages.
161 posted on 09/05/2003 7:00:23 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Here is a nice collection of quotes:

"I am not an American. There is nothing about me that is American. I don't want to be an American, and I have just as much right to be here as any of you." Thus spoke one individual identified as a "Latino activist" during a session of the "National Conversation on American Pluralism and Identity," a $4 million project funded by the National Endowment for the Humanities.

"Oh, I know there's some voices who want to wall us off from Mexico"...."...it's so important for us to tear down barriers and walls that might separate Mexico from the U.S." --George W. Bush before Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, Albuquerque, NM, 8/15/01

"In recent years a new International System has been developing, oriented toward the establishment of norms and principles of universal jurisdiction, above national sovereignty, in the areas of what is called the New Agenda...we have to confront ..... what I dare to call the Anglo-Saxon prejudice against the establishment of supra-national organizations." --Vicente Fox, to Club XXI, Hotel Eurobuilding, Madrid, Spain 5/16/02

While reports of their growing numbers are nothing new, word that Hispanics may have become the nation's largest minority has excited some of their North Texas leaders. "This will be a call to arms," said Dallas lawyer Adelfa Callejo, a longtime advocate and member of the League of United Latin American Citizens. Hector Flores, national president of LULAC, said the latest census report will mean little if it's not backed up by action. January 22, 2003

"I have proudly affirmed that the Mexican nation extends beyond the territory enclosed by its borders and that Mexican migrants are an important - a very important - part of this." This statement wasn't made in secrecy behind closed doors. It wasn't said outside the jurisdiction of the United States of America. None other than Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo spoke it in Chicago on July 23, 1997.

"We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. The explosion is in our population.... I love it. They are s**tting in their pants with fear. I love it.", "We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him."-- Professor Jose Angel Gutierrez, University of Texas.

"We are practicing La Reconquista in California." --Jose Pescador Osuna, Mexican Consul General

Mommy told me -- ". . . we have to fight for our race, we have to find the leaders who represent us." --George P. Bush (son of Florida Governor Jeb Bush and his Mexican-born wife Columba, and nephew of the President speaking to a gathering of Hispanics)

"There's a growing feeling 'Why should we pay for all these senior citizens' if the majority of them are white and all they were willing to pay for was prisons?"--Rodolfo Acuna (professor of Chicano studies at Cal State Northridge)

"Remember 187 (proposition to deny taxpayer funds for services to non-citizens) was the last gasp of white America in California." --Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party

"The American Southwest seems to be slowly returning to the jurisdiction of Mexico without firing a single shot." --Excelsior- The national newspaper of Mexico.

"We are politicizing every single one of these new citizens that are becoming citizens of this country. I gotta tell you that a lot of people are saying, 'I'm going to go out there and vote because I want to pay them back.'"--Gloria Molina, Los Angeles County Supervisor

"California is going to be a Hispanic state, and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. They should go back to Europe." --Mario Obledo, co-founder and President of MALDEF, 1968 to 1973; President of the League of United Latin American Citizens 1983-85, California State Secretary of Health, Education and Welfare 1975-82, awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom by Bill Clinton Obledo announced that he would burn the CCIR's "illegal immigration" billboard on 6/27/98, it was subsequently taken down.

"We need to avoid a white backlash by using codes understood by Latinos...non-Latinos aren't watching, they aren't raising questions"--Fernando Guerra, professor, Loyola Marymount

"Republica del Norte," the Republic of the North, which would include the present U.S. states of California, Arizona, New Mexico, Texas, plus southern Colorado, along with several current Mexican states, is "an inevitability." The new "Hispanic homeland" should be brought into being "by any means necessary." --Charles Truxillo, professor, University of New Mexico

". . . you are like the generals who command armies! We're in a state of war!"--Armando Navarro, professor, University of California.

"They're afraid we're going to take over the governmental institutions and other institutions. They're right. We will take them over. .. We are here to stay." --Richard Alatorre, Los Angeles City Council

El Plan Espiritual de Aztlán MEChA (Chicano Student Movement): "Chicano and Chicana students of Aztlan must take upon themselves the responsibilities to promote Chicanismo with the community, politicizing our Raza with an emphasis on indigenous consciousness to continue the struggle for the self-determination of the Chicano people for the purpose of liberating Aztlan." -- preamble to MEChA's national constitution.

"Go back to Boston! Go back to Plymouth Rock, Pilgrims! Get out! We are the future. You are old and tired. Go on. We have beaten you. Leave like beaten rats. You old white people. It is your duty to die. ... Through love of having children, we are going to take over." --Augustin Cebada, Brown Berets

La Voz de Aztlan, run by Hector Carreon of Whittier, California is openly hostile and anti-Semitic. They claim to be the provisional government of Aztlan: http://www.aztlan.net/

David Lopez, sociologist, California State University, Northridge: "In 1848, Mexico lost the war, but in 2050, Mexico will have reclaimed what was rightfully theirs."

Xavier Hermosillo, a Los Angeles radio talk show host In 1993, proclaimed on the CBS 48 Hours show that Mexican-Americans were taking political control of the "former Mexican colony, California ... house by house, block by block".

In a well-written Mankind Quarterly article, The Deconstruction of America, by Joseph Fallon, public officials Antonio Villaraigosa, majority leader of the California State Assembly and Art Torres, Chairman of the California Democratic Party, speakers at the "Latino Leadership Summit Response to Prop 187" are mentioned for their apparent agreement with many declarations uttered at the meeting. Neither Villaraigosa nor Torres repudiated these comments: "English should be a foreign language"; "We are hostages in our own land, prisoners of war"; "We live under occupying alien force."; "We live in the annexed territories of AZTLAN"; and "We're in a state of war ...a vicious threat to our existence". And neither man condemned the repeated calls for the establishment of an independent country of Aztlan or the references to this country as "AmeriKKKa" and the "United Snakes of America".

Felipe Gonzáles, director of UNM's Southwest Hispanic Research Institute, said there's a "certain homeland undercurrent" among New Mexico Hispanics who believe land was stolen and promises broken. But, he said, a new nation would need much more widespread support.

"Educated elites are going to have to pick up on this idea and run with it and use it as a point of confrontation if it is to succeed," Gonzáles said.

Truxillo contends states have the right to secede under the Articles of Confederation of 1777, in which states retained "sovereignty, freedom and independence." He contends the Articles were not superseded in that regard by the U.S. Constitution and that although the Civil War settled the question militarily, it was never resolved by courts.

Palomas Mayor Julieta Avina has mastered the language of victimology: "To me, the lawsuit is racist, and I think this issue could lead to international problems along this part of the border." As for New Mexico residents who object to subsidizing Mexican children, Avina tells them to find some other place to live: "If they don't like Mexico they ought to move to Canada."

In 1986, Nicaraguan defector Alberto Suhr related to U.S. reporters what he and other Sandinista cadres had been told by Tomas Borge, the Sandinista interior minister. Borge, a ruthless henchman trained by Castro's DGI, instructed his comrades: "We have Nicaragua, soon we will have El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Costa Rica and Mexico. One day, tomorrow or 15 years from now, we're going to take 5 to 10 million Mexicans and they're going to have one thing in mind - cross the border, go into Dallas, go into Houston, go into New Mexico, go into San Diego, and each one has embedded in his mind the idea of killing 10 Americans."

When Borge made that boast, he already had a sizeable fifth column of propagandists, foot soldiers, and narco-terrorists operating within the United States. Since then, several million more illegal aliens have entered the U.S., the Communist EZLN "Zapatista" forces in Mexico's Chiapas state have declared war on Mexico's corrupt and bankrupt ruling PRI regime, the Mexican economy has imploded, the drug cartels have taken control over much of Mexico, and the militant "Aztlan" movement has experienced a remarkable resurgence in U.S. Hispanic communities.
162 posted on 09/05/2003 8:01:06 AM PDT by Travis Bickel/Marine Inspector (You talkin' to me?)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Excellant use opf FR!! THANKS for the work.
163 posted on 09/05/2003 7:04:07 PM PDT by GatekeeperBookman (Arnold is Gray Davis In a Man suit. I am prickly; quarrelsome.Offended? please C my hompage)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Excellant use of FR!! THANKS for the work.
164 posted on 09/05/2003 7:04:12 PM PDT by GatekeeperBookman (Arnold is Gray Davis In a Man suit. I am prickly; quarrelsome.Offended? please C my hompage)
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To: PRND21
Why the concern? This org is a cancer. Does Joe scare you?
165 posted on 09/05/2003 7:05:19 PM PDT by GatekeeperBookman (Arnold is Gray Davis In a Man suit. I am prickly; quarrelsome.Offended? please C my hompage)
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To: PRND21
It's a left-leaning college club. Hitler had a club. Lenin had a club. Saddam had a club. Maybe you gotta club?
166 posted on 09/05/2003 7:11:15 PM PDT by GatekeeperBookman (Arnold is Gray Davis In a Man suit. I am prickly; quarrelsome.Offended? please C my hompage)
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To: GatekeeperBookman
Hitler had a club.

And he killed a few million Jews and took over much of Europe.
Your comparison is shameful.

167 posted on 09/05/2003 10:24:04 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Pelham
There are plenty of outlets for Mexican American culture, but MEChA is different. It's based on identity politics, with a racial and political grievance against the United States and its non-latino majority. It's not simply social and cultural.

Exactly. Moderate and non-racist Chicanos went for the groups that weren't about race hatred and racial supremacy--- there were the farmworkers union which was even leftist but not white-hating and not promoting the overthrow of the US government or the takeover by Mexico of half the USA.

168 posted on 09/05/2003 10:33:41 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: PRND21
La Raza, a club. A most shameful club. The goal is what gives them shame. Quite similiar to the clubs I reference.

The positions of La Raza & the Munchies are plainly violent-they advocate a violent plan...you seem to ignore that & attempt to obfuscate.
169 posted on 09/06/2003 5:47:49 AM PDT by GatekeeperBookman (Arnold is Gray Davis In a Man suit.)
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To: PRND21
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/974995/posts
170 posted on 09/06/2003 7:16:03 AM PDT by GatekeeperBookman (Arnold is Gray Davis In a Man suit.)
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To: Theo
PRND21 is well-known to regulars on FR as an avowed supporter and advocate of Mexican "rights" and issues. He is avidly pro-immigration from Mexico, legal or illegal.
171 posted on 09/06/2003 7:45:47 AM PDT by ought-six
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To: ought-six
He is avidly pro-immigration from Mexico, legal or illegal.

No link, liar? Feelings still bruised from being proven a liar? Still at it?

174 posted on 09/07/2003 9:25:50 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: FITZ
Cesar Chavez's Farm Workers Union even opposed illegal immigration, as they understood it only hurt their own efforts at better working conditions.
175 posted on 09/07/2003 9:43:46 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: hchutch
Grow up, crybaby.
176 posted on 09/07/2003 9:44:32 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Poohbah
"Subhuman filth"? My, aren't you the nazi wordsmith.
177 posted on 09/07/2003 9:45:34 PM PDT by Pelham
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To: Joe Hadenuf
MEChA -- the OTHER "Klan with a tan." (With apologies to Walter Williams.)
178 posted on 09/07/2003 9:45:56 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: Theo
"Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada" -- which translates to "For 'The Race' everything. For those outside 'The Race,' nothing."


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Nothing racist to see here. Everyone move along.
179 posted on 09/07/2003 9:48:54 PM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: Pelham; hchutch
"Subhuman filth"? My, aren't you the nazi wordsmith.

Yes, I'm very accurate at describing folks like you.

You're so vile that not even lawyers would consent to carnal knowledge of you.

180 posted on 09/07/2003 9:49:11 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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