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There are so many possible punchlines here ... why not pick your own?
1 posted on 09/02/2003 12:33:13 AM PDT by Timesink
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"Every fact in the film is true. Absolutely every fact in the film is true. And anybody who says otherwise is committing an act of libel."

Even that that "fact" isn't true. If it's said, it's slander.
2 posted on 09/02/2003 12:39:25 AM PDT by Sapper26
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Ahh...but did you catch Moore's liberal doublespeak?

"Every fact in the film is true. Absolutely every fact in the film is true."

Yes, I'm sure that every FACT is true; that's why they're called facts. But what he did not claim--what he CANNOT claim--is that the movie is factual. Taking a scripted concoction of propaganda and lies and sprinkling in a few true facts does not make a fictional movie into a documentary.

3 posted on 09/02/2003 12:44:32 AM PDT by SpyGuy
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Hmm...

"Every fact in the film is true. Absolutely every fact in the film is true. Including any facts I may have changed or even outright reversed at any point. And anybody who says otherwise is committing an act of libel. And anyone who criticizes me is a meanie. And I'll tell my mommy on them. "

I guess by Moore logic, I could claim this is an exact quote. And anyone who disagrees is engaged in libel....right?
4 posted on 09/02/2003 12:44:38 AM PDT by swilhelm73
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The left thinks the right is crazy. Where is the right's equivelent of Moore and Franken? I rest my case.
5 posted on 09/02/2003 12:46:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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"Every fact in the film is true. Absolutely every fact in the film is true. And anybody who says otherwise is committing an act of libel."

Lies, and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them :)

7 posted on 09/02/2003 12:58:22 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("The Clintons have damaged our country. They have done it together, in unison." -- Peggy Noonan)
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Even the statement that there was "carpet bombing" that killed thousands upon thousands of civilians is a lie, though in fairness, Moore might never have heard the truth of that matter.
9 posted on 09/02/2003 1:08:47 AM PDT by dsc
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...filmmaker Michael Moore has altered a caption that he fictitiously inserted into a 1988 Bush-Quayle campaign commercial

I wonder if the packaging will alert consumers that the movie has been altered from its theatrical (and Oscar winning) presentation. I won't hold my breath.

I wouldn't expect any DVD critics to take issue with this either. Only a few expressed slight outrage that the boos Hillary received at the Concert for NYC were overdubbed with cheers. This altered the views of the firemen and policemen gathered (the persons being thanked at the concert). Viacom should have edited the clip out altogether rather than to fake a historic moment.

12 posted on 09/02/2003 1:16:44 AM PDT by weegee
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Also new today:

Did Michael Moore deceive Academy? [Recent Movie] failed to meet Oscar submission rules

13 posted on 09/02/2003 1:24:10 AM PDT by weegee
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Lumpy Reifenstahl wrote, "if I state something as a fact, I need the viewers to trust that those facts are correct"

QUESTION AUTHORITY. If his research is above reproach he should not mind investigations into his work.

14 posted on 09/02/2003 1:27:07 AM PDT by weegee
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Somehow I doubt that Mr. Moron's bit of agitprop mentions that Albert Gore Junior was the first candidate to bring up Willie Horton (when he was competing for the Rat party nomination against Michael Dukakis).
15 posted on 09/02/2003 1:30:36 AM PDT by weegee
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Michael Milli Vanilli Moore - his mouth is movin' but nothing honest coming out.
16 posted on 09/02/2003 2:59:55 AM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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Here are my thoughts.

MIchael Moore can threaten to sue all he wants but no civil judgment against anyone is going to change the reality that everything in this movie is a bald-faced lie. Now that's just all there is to it and he needs to learn to accept that he is simply not entitled to his own set of "facts."

17 posted on 09/02/2003 3:59:00 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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bump for future reference
20 posted on 09/02/2003 7:02:12 AM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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Sue him for libel. These liberals rely so much on lies to attack Republicans, conservatives and it needs to be pointed out repeatedly. Just like with Al Franken-claiming there's not one lie in his new autobiography 'Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them', I'm sure someone could document the lies in that one too-though it will take some time. They need to be called on it. Their friends in the media attempt to give them a free pass, but people who know enough to inform themselves learn what lengths those jerks go to.
21 posted on 09/02/2003 7:39:11 AM PDT by bushfamfan
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BUMP FOR TRUTH
22 posted on 09/02/2003 11:16:41 AM PDT by weegee
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Moore hides the serious question:

Is the United States becoming a nation of fledgling antisocials and psychopaths?

First of all, it should be made clear that antisocial behaviors and disorders are not just a symptom of American society, it is equally important to note its pandemic, tragic scope. Noda Masaaki, a psychopathologist from Japan, has commented on the latest rash of psychopathic murders in her country as being indicative of a “perpetrator. . .seeking a sense of magical omnipotence, a feeling of see what I can do!” She also adds that these murders have emerged from the 1980’s, a new type of murderer that “sees human life as something that can be turned on and off at will, just as in an electronic game or a horror video.” (Kaoru & Masaaki, 1997).

The mention of media influence is one of the most important factors in the rise of antisocial behavior. Video games and horror videos, as Masaaki mentioned, were also said to have influenced the Columbine killers. Studies have proven that video games are not only addictive but that children learn to emulate violence. Music with the wrong message, whether it’s Marilyn Manson, Thug Rap, or even Britney Spears, can also have a very dangerous influence on the morality and value system of impressionable young people, for instance, “nothing in the culture wars makes a stronger argument for the defense of conservative values than rap music.” (Fields, 1998)……………………….. http://www.geocities.com/lycium7/research.html

24 posted on 09/02/2003 11:24:20 AM PDT by Helms ("I Want My MTV" (More Televised Vulgarity))
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"Every fact in the film is true. Absolutely every fact in the film is true. And anybody who says otherwise is committing an act of libel."

Well, of course, every fact is true. It's just that not everything that he calls a fact is indeed a fact. Did this guy even make it out of Spin 101?
25 posted on 09/02/2003 11:30:32 AM PDT by aruanan
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"if I state something as a fact, I need the viewers to trust that those facts are correct."

Yep, because if folks start looking into those so-called facts, most of them will not stand up to scrutiny.

I doubt that Moore-on meant to be so self-revealing here.

28 posted on 09/02/2003 11:45:13 AM PDT by dirtboy (Press Alt-Ctrl-Del to reset this tagline)
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"Every fact in the film is true. Absolutely every fact in the film is true. And anybody who says otherwise is committing an act of libel."

The definition of "fact" is that it is something which is true. However the film contains many falsehoods. Pointing this out is not "libel" because truth is an absolute defense against libel.

29 posted on 09/02/2003 11:48:44 AM PDT by Alouette (The bombing begins in five minutes.)
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Among adolescents, it is commonly thought that lying by implication, innuendo, half-truth, and omission is not lying at all. Of course, these things are lying and Moore's denials simply identify him further as a reckless and juvenile propagandist, appealing primarily to a kind of facetious and debased notion of wit that has its origin in the well-tried techniques of exploiting a gullible audience for commericial gain. It is the equivalent of sticking your tongue out at the teacher when her back is turned.

Moore is probably in it for the money and power, but his work is literal hate-speech, inspiring bigotry and support for terrorism all over the world. The problem comes from the relative credibility assigned to Moore, especially outside the United States. I don't believe that many Americans understand just how seriously this clownish figure is taken in other countries. In Australia, in particular, many regard Moore as the absolute and unimpeachable authority on all things American. His status among Oz leftists has to be seen to be believed, and the same is true to a lesser degree in my native Britain.

Contrary to popular belief, foreigners are generally less, not more, sophisticated in their response to media manipulation. This is reasonable considering that the US invented the saturation media and has had far longer to grow skeptical and cynical about it. The media themselves do not emphasize this, for a variety of reasons, one being the age-old preference of status-seekers for the foreign and seemingly exotic.

30 posted on 09/02/2003 11:51:15 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy ( Anti-war movement: road-kill on the highway to freedom.)
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