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Posted on 08/30/2003 6:14:46 AM PDT by miltonim
Social conservatives have a viable candidate in McClintock
TORONTO, August 28, 2003 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Steve Jalsevac, a long-time political analyst with Campaign Life Coalition Canada suggests that were actor Arnold Schwarzenegger to capture the Republican Governorship of California it would mean political damage for the Republican Party. "A core constituency within the Republican Party is its social conservatives, most importantly those who are pro-life and pro-family. Schwarzenegger is so obviously a liberal on social issues, his running as a Republican reeks of opportunism and demeans the party's integrity," said Jalsevac.
Republicans have another capable candidate in the race who is considered authentically conservative. California State Sen. Tom McClintock, first elected to the State Assembly in 1982, is also running. McClintock ran for state controller last year and lost by a margin of 0.3% to a Democrat. In that race, McClintock captured more votes than any other Republican on the ballot. In an interview with Human Events released today, McClintock acknowledges that he is pro-life and pro-family and willing to act legislatively on those convictions.
"As we have seen so many times in Canadian politics, conservative parties are usually a delicate balance between fiscal and social conservatives, and where fiscal conservatives are so insensitive as to alienate social conservatives, the Party suffers debilitating division," Jalsevac told LifeSite News. "Arnold may well give the Republicans Governorship of another state, but his strong liberal stance on social issues will damage Party unity and weaken critical differences in policy between the two major parties."
On a radio talk show yesterday, Schwarzenegger attempted to appear less offensive to social conservatives saying that he is pro-choice, but against "partial-birth" abortion; that he supports current domestic-partnership law but not gay 'marriage'". However, Schwarzenegger's Republican strategist Allan Hoffenblum was candid about the actor's negligible chances of appealing to social conservatives. Speaking of "family-value types", Hoffenblum said, "that is the group that is least likely to vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger regardless."
Little? But yes, and proudly so. Please continue.
Go Arnie
You are correct. In any event, the discussion about ideology on this thread, and so many others, is pointless; Tom has another week, or two at the most, to prove that he cannot get his numbers close enough to Arnold's to make a serious challenge. He will then step aside in Arnold's favor. He will work for Arnold and campaign for him.
In return, he will have the California GOP completely in his corner next year, including serious financial support, including a grateful Governor Schwarzenegger, when he makes his run against Barbara Boxer for the US Senate. That's where he's looking, even now. He is too smart not to know that he cannot beat Arnold.
We always think of liberalism as advancing incrementally, getting "the nose of the camel into the tent" and before we know it, the whole camel is inside. That's what Arnold could be for conservatism in California. We'll see.
But never doubt, Tom McClintock will withdraw in favor of AS within 2 weeks.
Our rights in the bill of rights are not just 'federal'. They are inalienabe human rights.
IE -- The state of CA contends that they have the power to prohibit weapons. Your friends here agree. Do You?
Not trying to pick a fight, or resolve the human dilemma of when an individual or group should "Declare Independence."
Who said you were? -- You are defending the 'states rights' concept. I defend constitutuonal rights.
I was calling you on your statement that a certain pair of expressions was evidence of hypocracy.
Indeed they are. Apparently you approve.
A quick lesson in the meaning of "inalienable." It means "can't be sold or given away." You can't give your life to a dead person, you can't give your liberty to an incarcerated person, and you can't take your happiness and force an unhappy person to be happy. The fact that some things are inalienable is just a fact, no matter how eloquently expressed. Of course humans can (and do) defend themselves, sometimes using weapons. There is no way to keep a person from doing so, period. So, the "right" to self defense is inalienable. It's going to happen, no matter how much talk to the contrary.
Belaboring the obvious about rights doesn't change the facts about the 'states rightist' position on them. -- That a state has the power to ignore our BOR's.
I personally think that many states have, and certainly the federal government has, miscontrued the 2nd amendment. But "power" is a funny thing. One can't know which side has more, until the battle is over.
Yep, its obvious; -- you approve of state powers to regulate/prohibit weapons, but you can't quite say so flat out.
Go Arnie
I hope you're right, but sooner rather than later, please.
What other horrible thought do I have? If Arnie were to drop out, and encourage all who supported him to support Tom, Tom would still lose. The under 40 crowd either won't turn out, or will vote otherwise, and the demons would unite behind bushamecha.
Of course that little joke would have been more effective if he had lips and wasn't such a
Nope, not gonna happen. McClintock has stated over and over that he is a Seabiscuit and in the race to the end.
So tell me again, Tom, when will you start running against Bustamonte instead of your own party?
They'll rant that its our fault and the end of the world is near and we're going to inherit hell and blah, blah, blah. I'd like to see 'em slink back to where they came from, but they will continue to demonstrate their narrow-mindset.
Indeed. Will their apoplectic convulsions ever end? They seem to think that civilization will end when Arnold is sworn into office.
I think that's excellent news! He is reacting to multiple suggestions that he drop. He has acknowledged that, the end is near and this sorry episode. I hope.
Go Arnie
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